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Well since the Mk1 is for real on the table, I'd like a upper with that rail, but with a 16" barrel. Same barrel/rail length proportions as the GOV Duty upper. I'd take that over the GOV Duty upper I've been asking for.
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Catch me if you can. These are the days of our lives. I sleep with an AK and ride with a four-five.
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@GACS 11.7 mk8 or mk16. No mk1 interest.
Actually, just do the mk8 and 16 rails in 11.5-11.8 |
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Forget the Mk-X, bring back the SMR M4
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Originally Posted By huntsimp87: Dear Mr. Bill, Please make a 12.5" Super Duty upper receiver group with an appropriate sized gas port. Everyone will buy one. Thanks. Sincerely, Hunter Biden View Quote Absolutely. I NEED a 12.5 SD. Pretty please. |
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I'd be in on this for sure. 10.5 MK16 rail. 12.5 barrel.
That little barrel exposed makes it feel more business. |
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any chance for .300 blk barrels?
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Originally Posted By agnisco: 11.75" MK16 Airborne CH View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By agnisco: Originally Posted By GACS: What would your ideal rail and charging handle combo be on the upper? -GACS 11.75" MK16 Airborne CH Esp if gas port sized such that it won't even cycle Tula. Teensy gas port plz and thx. |
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I killed a bacon puppy. :(
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MK1 all day…everyday.
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Originally Posted By Wake27: Every other SD upper is identical minus barrel and potentially gas tube length, and comes with a MK16. Why change that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wake27: Every other SD upper is identical minus barrel and potentially gas tube length, and comes with a MK16. Why change that? Because I, and like 5 other people on this Godforsaken planet, prefer a bit thiccer handguard. Originally Posted By Rogue556: Snip Seriously though, any length other than 11.75" for the rail is the wrong answer. Snip (I do wish the MK1 and/or MK3 would make a comeback in general. They are still some of the best rails ever made). I think 11.5” would be reasonable. There are a couple cans on the market that can be a little close with barrel length minus .75” setups. 11.5” would maximize the consumer base, I think, and would be un-noticeably different from 11.75”. I’ve never used the Mk1….can someone tell me what it does better than the Mk8? BTW, GACS, I’d assume that y’all’ve done more market research than a couple posts on Arfcom, but, Larue’s 11” rails are probably your most direct competition…. |
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Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Because I, and like 5 other people on this Godforsaken planet, prefer a bit thiccer handguard. I think 11.5” would be reasonable. There are a couple cans on the market that can be a little close with barrel length minus .75” setups. 11.5” would maximize the consumer base, I think, and would be un-noticeably different from 11.75”. I’ve never used the Mk1….can someone tell me what it does better than the Mk8? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Because I, and like 5 other people on this Godforsaken planet, prefer a bit thiccer handguard. I think 11.5” would be reasonable. There are a couple cans on the market that can be a little close with barrel length minus .75” setups. 11.5” would maximize the consumer base, I think, and would be un-noticeably different from 11.75”. I’ve never used the Mk1….can someone tell me what it does better than the Mk8? It looks super cool. MK8 is the best rail for what it is best at, followed by Mk4, but the MK1 looks super cool. BTW, GACS, I’d assume that y’all’ve done more market research than a couple posts on Arfcom, but, Larue’s 11” rails are probably your most direct competition…. Click To View Spoiler |
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Catch me if you can. These are the days of our lives. I sleep with an AK and ride with a four-five.
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Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Because I, and like 5 other people on this Godforsaken planet, prefer a bit thiccer handguard. I think 11.5" would be reasonable. There are a couple cans on the market that can be a little close with barrel length minus .75" setups. 11.5" would maximize the consumer base, I think, and would be un-noticeably different from 11.75". I've never used the Mk1 .can someone tell me what it does better than the Mk8? BTW, GACS, I'd assume that y'all've done more market research than a couple posts on Arfcom, but, Larue's 11" rails are probably your most direct competition . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Originally Posted By Wake27: Every other SD upper is identical minus barrel and potentially gas tube length, and comes with a MK16. Why change that? Because I, and like 5 other people on this Godforsaken planet, prefer a bit thiccer handguard. Originally Posted By Rogue556: Snip Seriously though, any length other than 11.75" for the rail is the wrong answer. Snip (I do wish the MK1 and/or MK3 would make a comeback in general. They are still some of the best rails ever made). I think 11.5" would be reasonable. There are a couple cans on the market that can be a little close with barrel length minus .75" setups. 11.5" would maximize the consumer base, I think, and would be un-noticeably different from 11.75". I've never used the Mk1 .can someone tell me what it does better than the Mk8? BTW, GACS, I'd assume that y'all've done more market research than a couple posts on Arfcom, but, Larue's 11" rails are probably your most direct competition . 11.75" would be right up to within about 1/8" of the shims, which is fine for my setup but cutting it a little too close for general sales IMO. I've got 4 12.5" barrels and they're all slighlhty different lengths. One is a hair over 13" for example, and speaking of LaRue I think that particular rifle would be able to fit the 12" rail. Anyway, even just slightly longer threaded section could get you into trouble for that matter. 11.5" should still keep most of the no-gap chasers reasonably happy. ![]() |
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Sofa king in.
I’d love a 11.5” MK16. |
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So when are these 12.5 uppers going to be available?
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11.5" Mk8 would be fantastic to go with a 12.5" barrel. Please please please make that rail available.
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Originally Posted By TGE: Agree on 11.5". Below is a pic of 10.5" mk14 with a 12.5" barrel. Trigger warning for the no-gap guys. 11.75" would be right up to within about 1/8" of the shims, which is fine for my setup but cutting it a little too close for general sales IMO. I've got 4 12.5" barrels and they're all slighlhty different lengths. One is a hair over 13" for example, and speaking of LaRue I think that particular rifle would be able to fit the 12" rail. Anyway, even just slightly longer threaded section could get you into trouble for that matter. 11.5" should still keep most of the no-gap chasers reasonably happy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384595/IMG_20220627_090551_jpg-2432570.JPG View Quote Personally, I like the way that photo I like the spacing I like all of it. |
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LOL at all these late bloomers asking "what is the MK1?".
It's only the best rail ever made. |
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Does one dude qualify as “all these”?
Originally Posted By _LandCruiser_: LOL at all these late bloomers asking "what is the MK1?". It's only the best rail ever made. View Quote Can you quantify that? You’ll have my interest if its not a scarcity driven Instagram points thing. What makes it better than a Mk8, or the issued Mk16? Or for that matter, KAC URX4, Larue, DD, and Hodge? I have experience with all of those, so a basis of comparison would be nice. Why was it discontinued? |
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I agree with the 11.5 rail, definitely interested. My preference would be Mk16 but curious what this Mk1 is all about.
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Mk1
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MK1 Please!
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My son and I were just discussing this....again.
Bill, the market is there. I'd be in for two and my son for the same. Build this. |
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Originally Posted By Tejas1836: The most ergonomically perfect rail ever designed and aesthetically also very pleasing View Quote Can you quantify what makes it more ergonomic than their other rails? |
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Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Can you quantify what makes it more ergonomic than their other rails? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Originally Posted By Tejas1836: The most ergonomically perfect rail ever designed and aesthetically also very pleasing Can you quantify what makes it more ergonomic than their other rails? Hold one in your hand |
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Originally Posted By Tejas1836: Hold one in your hand View Quote I apologize that I’ve been unclear in my questions. An example of the sort of quantification I am looking for on why Mk1 is tiddies and beer: “I prefer the Mk8 over the Mk16 because given that I don’t wear a size XS glove, it gives me room for my hand and fingers after mounting a light and PEQ or MAWL on a SBR, and its increased diameter is less flexible and more heat resistant.” Or is it really something that cannot easily be described and I must track down the best rail G ever made that they inexpicibly discontinued despite it being the best, so that I can put my grubby mitts on it to appreciate its scarcity? I’m not trying to be an ass, just looking for a real answer other than “its the best, you just don’t know, young’un”. Right now, it looks like Brasscrossedrifles may have explained it with “it looks super cool”, which is fine. |
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Originally Posted By 1168RGR: I apologize that I’ve been unclear in my questions. An example of the sort of quantification I am looking for on why Mk1 is tiddies and beer: “I prefer the Mk8 over the Mk16 because given that I don’t wear a size XS glove, it gives me room for my hand and fingers after mounting a light and PEQ or MAWL on a SBR, and its increased diameter is less flexible and more heat resistant.” Or is it really something that cannot easily be described and I must track down the best rail G ever made that they inexpicibly discontinued despite it being the best, so that I can put my grubby mitts on it to appreciate its scarcity? I’m not trying to be an ass, just looking for a real answer other than “its the best, you just don’t know, young’un”. Right now, it looks like Brasscrossedrifles may have explained it with “it looks super cool”, which is fine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Originally Posted By Tejas1836: Hold one in your hand I apologize that I’ve been unclear in my questions. An example of the sort of quantification I am looking for on why Mk1 is tiddies and beer: “I prefer the Mk8 over the Mk16 because given that I don’t wear a size XS glove, it gives me room for my hand and fingers after mounting a light and PEQ or MAWL on a SBR, and its increased diameter is less flexible and more heat resistant.” Or is it really something that cannot easily be described and I must track down the best rail G ever made that they inexpicibly discontinued despite it being the best, so that I can put my grubby mitts on it to appreciate its scarcity? I’m not trying to be an ass, just looking for a real answer other than “its the best, you just don’t know, young’un”. Right now, it looks like Brasscrossedrifles may have explained it with “it looks super cool”, which is fine. You can get a “just as gud” rail that will do everything the Mk1 can do at a fraction of the cost. However, the Mk1 is still one of the leaders in craftsmanship and aesthetics - well built, intricately machined and great looking. Geissele discontinued it due to cost. If I were to make an analogy, it is like old school Colt Pythons or pinned & recessed Smith and Wessons compared to modern production revolvers, or a HK P7 compared to current production HK pistols. Much better made and they are still iconic of the brand despite being long gone. |
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Originally Posted By Apec: You can get a “just as gud” rail that will do everything the Mk1 can do at a fraction of the cost. However, the Mk1 is still one of the leaders in craftsmanship and aesthetics - well built, intricately machined and great looking. Geissele discontinued it due to cost. If I were to make an analogy, it is like old school Colt Pythons or pinned & recessed Smith and Wessons compared to modern production revolvers, or a HK P7 compared to current production HK pistols. Much better made and they are still iconic of the brand despite being long gone. View Quote Ok, thanks. That frames the appreciation for it here in a way that I understand. -Break- Mk8 for me, please, Bill. |
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Whatever happened to the mk6 quad rail?? And the 416 barrel/bcg??
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So do we think this is coming or should I just buy another 12.5 elsewhere?
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I just bought a blem 12.5 super duty upper with the 10.5 mk16 from PA for $650 and that’s with a Surefire flash hider …. Deal for sure
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I almost picked one up. Ended up buying a blem rail from Geissele. I really just wanted the 12.5 barell though.
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That Crye Multicam is some good shit !!
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I would love a 12.5 Midlength SD Upper.
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Fuck Cancer. Love you Pop.
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Originally Posted By Rem300UM: I almost picked one up. Ended up buying a blem rail from Geissele. I really just wanted the 12.5 barell though. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58254/62D5DCB6-D737-46E2-97E9-E21D7D41FBAB_png-2704148.JPG View Quote Beat me to it! This is the real deal assembled for Primary Arms from us. Geissele Automatics Blemula AR-15 Barreled Upper Receiver 5.56 NATO - Black - 12.5" - Closed-Tine -GACS |
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