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Posted: 8/1/2010 10:03:26 AM EDT
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I would like this for my larue BUIS, i dont need a qd mount, i just want it locked on there for good. Hadn't thought about that, but I'd be just as happy with the LT buis this way. You know how I was saying I didn't have a use for it earlier? Yeah, I take that back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 10:16:17 AM EDT
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Thanks for making this. Eight hundred pound gorilla= how much coin? For the eotech 512 and the aimpoint comp m4
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Posted: 8/1/2010 10:26:01 AM EDT
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Maybe a bad business move, what share larue might steal back from their lower cost competators might not make up for the reduced sales on their original mounts. When it comes down to it, most people don't need QD, especially when they get to buy a cool, cheaper larue mount instead. But what do I know, I'm sure I'll buy one.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 10:31:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: Maybe a bad business move, what share larue might steal back from their lower cost competators might not make up for the reduced sales on their original mounts. When it comes down to it, most people don't need QD, especially when they get to buy a cool, cheaper larue mount instead. But what do I know, I'm sure I'll buy one. I doubt it...the people that bought LaRue QD mounts in the past were buying the best and I doubt that demograph will shift to these. Yes some probaby will but I see that being a small margin. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 10:34:37 AM EDT
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now if only lowly small time retailers could carry LaRue gear instead of having to carry competitors brands...
K. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 10:45:27 AM EDT
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Thanks, very nice as always.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:07:32 AM EDT
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 ETA: Sorry, Mark. I guess I didn't think before I typed.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:19:43 AM EDT
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I don't know, I see enough pos chinese fakepoints in real larue mounts. People seem to be willing to buy decent mounts to put a toy scope on their rifle.
 \I guess it makes sense. I bet 80%+ of people never remove the optic. I almost never do |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:23:51 AM EDT
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I think its a great idea. In fact, its about time.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:27:59 AM EDT
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Maybe a bad business move, what share larue might steal back from their lower cost competators might not make up for the reduced sales on their original mounts. When it comes down to it, most people don't need QD, especially when they get to buy a cool, cheaper larue mount instead. But what do I know, I'm sure I'll buy one. I doubt it...the people that bought LaRue QD mounts in the past were buying the best and I doubt that demograph will shift to these. Yes some probaby will but I see that being a small margin. Agreed. I think it's a good move, and expands their customer base. I think there is a large demographic that would like to buy quality, but are either cost-limited, or don't understand the real value already built into high quality items. If you think about how many gun owners who used to just own bolt action rifles, and often times used cheap rings/mounts on their rifles, but are now purchasing AR platform rifles. That group isn't used to spending $200+ for mounts/rings, and they probably haven't been exposed to the difference in quality between a set of $29.95 rings from Dicks, and a LaRue mount. This move targets both groups. Those that couldn't justify, and didn't need the QD ability, but wanted top quality can now get it for a reduced cost. And those that don't really know what they are missing by not buying high-end, might now be more tempted to experiment and see what all the fuss is about. Quoted:
now if only lowly small time retailers could carry LaRue gear instead of having to carry competitors brands... K. There are quite a few small retailers that do carry LaRue mounts. When things were tight, delivery time wise, at LaRue, I managed to pick up a LaRue mount and Aimpoint ML3 at one of their authorized retailers. Didn't get any schwag, but I got a top-quality mount for a good price. 
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:30:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: I bet 80%+ of people never remove the optic. I almost never do Yeah most people I know NEVER switch. I, however, have 3 optics for my rifle, and I switch them fairly often. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:45:48 AM EDT
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Awesome. I can finally expand my dillo herd
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:51:20 AM EDT
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My LT-104 is on back order for my brand spankin' new OBR556. Should I get it changed to the new LT-104 VFZ?
Hmmmmmmmmm 
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:52:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: My LT-104 is on back order for my brand spankin' new OBR556. Should I get it changed to the new LT-104 VFZ? Hmmmmmmmmm Sounds like an excellent idea. LT-104's are on backorder? That's kinda rare, no? |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 11:54:32 AM EDT
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I would like this for my larue BUIS, i dont need a qd mount, i just want it locked on there for good. Hadn't thought about that, but I'd be just as happy with the LT buis this way. You know how I was saying I didn't have a use for it earlier? Yeah, I take that back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yup. I think that would take some wind out of Daniel Defense's sails if LaRue offers a non-QD version. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 12:00:00 PM EDT
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Bingo. VFZ - Vectored Force Zero - TM " Why a leverless LaRue mount ? " "Well, I'll tell ya pilgrim." - John Wayne 1.) For those folks that just refuse to come to grips with the fact that our LaRue lever mounts solved all the past issues widely known to plague lever mounts. 2.) For those folks that don't want levers no matter how good they are. 3.). For those folks still wanting removable repeatability, but don't mind carrying a small tool (3/8" wrench) to do it with. 4.) For those folks that want removable repeatability, but don't care if it takes a little longer than the blink of an eye our LaRue lever takes. 5.) For those folks never faced with removing or replacing their optic under no-light conditions (in the dark) 6.) For those folks just not willing to pay for LaRue lever capability, but still want LaRue quality in a mount, that will still hold an incredible zero. 7.) For those folks that have no intention of ever swapping their optic (but can in a pinch if their scope fogs in Alaska) 
M. LaRue Mr. LaRue, thank you for this new mount option. I have only used the QD lever one time to demonstrate the return to zero capability to a person at the range who had never handled your products. He was quite impressed with the LT-104's return to zero at 100 yards. Other than that one demo, #7 is all me. Any time I end up with a new optic, I either get rid of the one that it replaces, or I build a new home for it to mount to. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 12:48:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Excellent! Now I have a quality set of rings to mount my glass on my bolt gun. I'm thinking the same thing, it's just the ticket for rifles that don't have any Iron Sights.  |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 12:56:13 PM EDT
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how does it work ? Magnets?
 no numbers here since i won before
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Posted: 8/1/2010 12:56:46 PM EDT
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So when will we get a price and availability update? I was thinking of building a 22lr clone of my 3gun rifle for cheap training. I think you just pushed me over the edge of non-decision.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 1:04:14 PM EDT
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I'll keep the QD for my optics, but I like the idea of this for stuff like light mounts.
While we're on new products, any chance of getting a lower profile x300 mount so it sits below the FSB? Please?
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Posted: 8/1/2010 1:23:46 PM EDT
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Maybe a bad business move, what share larue might steal back from their lower cost competators might not make up for the reduced sales on their original mounts. When it comes down to it, most people don't need QD, especially when they get to buy a cool, cheaper larue mount instead. But what do I know, I'm sure I'll buy one. I doubt it...the people that bought LaRue QD mounts in the past were buying the best and I doubt that demograph will shift to these. Yes some probaby will but I see that being a small margin. I'm just pointing out that they will probably steal from their better yielding products from all the folks that realize that they don't use QD very much. Unless this new stuff is much cheaper to produce they could see flat or reduced rev. even though they have more customers. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 1:59:14 PM EDT
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So when will we get a price and availability update? I was thinking of building a 22lr clone of my 3gun rifle for cheap training. I think you just pushed me over the edge of non-decision. I have much LaRue levered gear on my and the lovely wife's carbines, and will now be outfitting my 22 TacSol upper with the LaRue leverless not as quick disconnect gear. Man I love innovation, God bless America! |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 2:00:04 PM EDT
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Maybe a bad business move, what share larue might steal back from their lower cost competators might not make up for the reduced sales on their original mounts. When it comes down to it, most people don't need QD, especially when they get to buy a cool, cheaper larue mount instead. But what do I know, I'm sure I'll buy one. I doubt it...the people that bought LaRue QD mounts in the past were buying the best and I doubt that demograph will shift to these. Yes some probaby will but I see that being a small margin. I'm just pointing out that they will probably steal from their better yielding products from all the folks that realize that they don't use QD very much. Unless this new stuff is much cheaper to produce they could see flat or reduced rev. even though they have more customers. It's business 101 - You pays your money and you takes your chances.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 2:12:59 PM EDT
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Great idea. Eagerly awaiting pricing info.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 3:02:07 PM EDT
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Great idea. Eagerly awaiting pricing info. Same here.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 4:00:15 PM EDT
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Looking forward to doing the review for this, thanks for the opportunity Mark.
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Posted: 8/1/2010 4:03:01 PM EDT
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why will this be available?
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Posted: 8/1/2010 4:03:22 PM EDT
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Oh man!!
would I be able to get one of the flashlight mounts with this option? I have no Intention of removing it once put on 
that and I'm a cheapassBrokeass...... 
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Posted: 8/1/2010 4:18:14 PM EDT
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I might be wrong, but it would seem like on ~$100 mounts would be hard to make much less expensive, whereas a ~$200 scope mount could shave more off (same or less percentage) and possibly hit a different market.
I'm curious to take a detailed look at the mechanism just to see how well it works (it's LT so it should work exactly as described). |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 4:53:04 PM EDT
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Does anyone know when these will be available?
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Posted: 8/1/2010 5:01:38 PM EDT
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Does anyone know when these will be available? We'll be letting folks know in the next few days. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 5:11:56 PM EDT
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How much of a differense in price are we talking about? Is the LT-104 in stock? Is not wait time?
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Posted: 8/1/2010 5:12:05 PM EDT
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Awesome! I'm building a precision bolt rig right now and wanted some LaRue rings to go with the base, however the QD rings were just a little too much for me
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Posted: 8/1/2010 5:18:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: How much of a differense in price are we talking about? Is the LT-104 in stock? Is not wait time? Just had a guy in another thread say he's got an LT-104 on backorder. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 5:35:08 PM EDT
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That makes me sad! I am dying to finish my first AR! Just waiting on the optic. The LT-104 just what I was looking for.
Quoted: Quoted: How much of a differense in price are we talking about? Is the LT-104 in stock? Is not wait time? Just had a guy in another thread say he's got an LT-104 on backorder. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 5:52:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: why will this be available? And who's troll account are you? |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 6:26:09 PM EDT
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why will this be available?
1.) For those folks that just refuse to come to grips with the fact that our LaRue lever mounts solved all the past issues widely known to plague lever mounts. 2.) For those folks that don't want levers no matter how good they are. 3.). For those folks still wanting removable repeatability, but don't mind carrying a small tool (3/8" wrench) to do it with. 4.) For those folks that want removable repeatability, but don't care if it takes a little longer than the blink of an eye our LaRue lever takes. 5.) For those folks never faced with removing or replacing their optic under no-light conditions (in the dark) 6.) For those folks just not willing to pay for LaRue lever capability, but still want LaRue quality in a mount, that will still hold an incredible zero. 7.) For those folks that have no intention of ever swapping their optic (but can in a pinch if their scope fogs in Alaska) |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 6:26:50 PM EDT
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Sweet
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Posted: 8/1/2010 7:16:45 PM EDT
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why will this be available? And who's troll account are you? Funny, i was thinking the same thing... |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 7:48:16 PM EDT
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Maybe a bad business move, what share larue might steal back from their lower cost competators might not make up for the reduced sales on their original mounts. When it comes down to it, most people don't need QD, especially when they get to buy a cool, cheaper larue mount instead. But what do I know, I'm sure I'll buy one. I doubt it...the people that bought LaRue QD mounts in the past were buying the best and I doubt that demograph will shift to these. Yes some probaby will but I see that being a small margin. they're gonna make money hand over fist. I can't afford/justify the expense of their qd stuff right now no matter how much I'd like to. If these are half to a third (maybe less if we get REAL lucky) the cost I can see myself buying a mount. ESPECIALLY when you add in the fact that in time they can be upgraded with the qd levers if you want them. If they sell as well as I think they will, LT just got their license to print money. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 7:54:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe a bad business move, what share larue might steal back from their lower cost competators might not make up for the reduced sales on their original mounts. When it comes down to it, most people don't need QD, especially when they get to buy a cool, cheaper larue mount instead. But what do I know, I'm sure I'll buy one. I doubt it...the people that bought LaRue QD mounts in the past were buying the best and I doubt that demograph will shift to these. Yes some probaby will but I see that being a small margin. they're gonna make money hand over fist. I can't afford/justify the expense of their qd stuff right now no matter how much I'd like to. If these are half to a third (maybe less if we get REAL lucky) the cost I can see myself buying a mount. ESPECIALLY when you add in the fact that in time they can be upgraded with the qd levers if you want them. If they sell as well as I think they will, LT just got their license to print money. Honestly, I think $50-75 off will be the most I'd expect to save. Don't get me wrong...that's a lot. However, we're just talking about two levers here. The "meat" of the mount will still be there, and hopefully be of equal quality. |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 8:00:38 PM EDT
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1499
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Posted: 8/1/2010 8:53:29 PM EDT
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1499 fail to the max |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 9:29:21 PM EDT
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Maybe a bad business move, what share larue might steal back from their lower cost competators might not make up for the reduced sales on their original mounts. When it comes down to it, most people don't need QD, especially when they get to buy a cool, cheaper larue mount instead. But what do I know, I'm sure I'll buy one. I doubt it...the people that bought LaRue QD mounts in the past were buying the best and I doubt that demograph will shift to these. Yes some probaby will but I see that being a small margin. they're gonna make money hand over fist. I can't afford/justify the expense of their qd stuff right now no matter how much I'd like to. If these are half to a third (maybe less if we get REAL lucky) the cost I can see myself buying a mount. ESPECIALLY when you add in the fact that in time they can be upgraded with the qd levers if you want them. If they sell as well as I think they will, LT just got their license to print money. Honestly, I think $50-75 off will be the most I'd expect to save. Don't get me wrong...that's a lot. However, we're just talking about two levers here. The "meat" of the mount will still be there, and hopefully be of equal quality. I was thinking $20-30 less, $40 at most. Thing of it, the difference between the QD lever and the VFZ isnt much |
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Posted: 8/1/2010 9:39:27 PM EDT
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In for reason No 7
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Posted: 8/2/2010 7:22:04 AM EDT
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This is going to be one of LaRue's best sellers. I have a few mounts for lights and optics and I've always thought that not only were LaRue products the best made but that they were well thought out. Every one of my mounts works EXACTLY right. I've always told my friends (some of whose mounts come loose or didn't align like they should) that all they had to do was look at a LaRue product and they'd know why they cost what they do. They're worth the price because they do EXACTLY what they were intended to do. If could save a few bucks for mounts that I intend to leave on most of the time and still get LaRue build quality why buy elsewhere?
Now, if we could just get someone to make a convenient place to stash one of the little wrenches.... |
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Posted: 8/2/2010 8:20:23 AM EDT
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Awesome! I'm building a precision bolt rig right now and wanted some LaRue rings to go with the base, however the QD rings were just a little too much for me Just to add on to my post. What are the ring heights? For my optics I'll need at least .300" of height on the rings, will the low ones work? |
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Posted: 8/2/2010 8:45:14 AM EDT
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Sticking to detach, but good addition to an already superior line.
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Posted: 8/2/2010 10:39:16 AM EDT
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This is going to be one of LaRue's best sellers. I have a few mounts for lights and optics and I've always thought that not only were LaRue products the best made but that they were well thought out. Every one of my mounts works EXACTLY right. I've always told my friends (some of whose mounts come loose or didn't align like they should) that all they had to do was look at a LaRue product and they'd know why they cost what they do. They're worth the price because they do EXACTLY what they were intended to do. If could save a few bucks for mounts that I intend to leave on most of the time and still get LaRue build quality why buy elsewhere? Now, if we could just get someone to make a convenient place to stash one of the little wrenches....
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Posted: 8/2/2010 11:05:43 AM EDT
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Mark,
You are killing me man! I was going to order a LT-139 for a new Vortex Viper Scope I have on order and this new VFZ would be sweet. When will I be able to order one? Wanting to pull the trigger on this mount this week. Quoted: Quoted: This is going to be one of LaRue's best sellers. I have a few mounts for lights and optics and I've always thought that not only were LaRue products the best made but that they were well thought out. Every one of my mounts works EXACTLY right. I've always told my friends (some of whose mounts come loose or didn't align like they should) that all they had to do was look at a LaRue product and they'd know why they cost what they do. They're worth the price because they do EXACTLY what they were intended to do. If could save a few bucks for mounts that I intend to leave on most of the time and still get LaRue build quality why buy elsewhere? Now, if we could just get someone to make a convenient place to stash one of the little wrenches.... |
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