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Originally Posted By jordanh:
Originally Posted By WarthogA5:
Now I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I want to read it for myself. Are the original masada/acr handguards going to be a stock option or available for later purchase? Thanks! from what i understand from a few other threads is that the civilian bushmaster acr will be available in black with the original handguard and a none folding stock...? From what I understand the folding stock will be standard for those of us in free states with the fixed stock going to ban states... |
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
Sigmund Freud, "General Introduction to Psychoanalysis". Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidenti telum est |
Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By jordanh:
Originally Posted By WarthogA5:
Now I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I want to read it for myself. Are the original masada/acr handguards going to be a stock option or available for later purchase? Thanks! from what i understand from a few other threads is that the civilian bushmaster acr will be available in black with the original handguard and a none folding stock...? From what I understand the folding stock will be standard for those of us in free states with the fixed stock going to ban states... None of this has been announced. |
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Originally Posted By joe-bananas:
Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By jordanh:
Originally Posted By WarthogA5:
Now I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I want to read it for myself. Are the original masada/acr handguards going to be a stock option or available for later purchase? Thanks! from what i understand from a few other threads is that the civilian bushmaster acr will be available in black with the original handguard and a none folding stock...? From what I understand the folding stock will be standard for those of us in free states with the fixed stock going to ban states... None of this has been announced. and? |
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
Sigmund Freud, "General Introduction to Psychoanalysis". Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidenti telum est |
Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By joe-bananas:
Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By jordanh:
Originally Posted By WarthogA5:
Now I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I want to read it for myself. Are the original masada/acr handguards going to be a stock option or available for later purchase? Thanks! from what i understand from a few other threads is that the civilian bushmaster acr will be available in black with the original handguard and a none folding stock...? From what I understand the folding stock will be standard for those of us in free states with the fixed stock going to ban states... None of this has been announced. and? And I wouldn't put much stock in rumor. |
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Originally Posted By WarthogA5:
Now I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I want to read it for myself. Are the original masada/acr handguards going to be a stock option or available for later purchase? Thanks! Yes, it will be available, not decided if it's OEM or aftermarket. Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By joe-bananas:
Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By jordanh:
Originally Posted By WarthogA5:
Now I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I want to read it for myself. Are the original masada/acr handguards going to be a stock option or available for later purchase? Thanks! from what i understand from a few other threads is that the civilian bushmaster acr will be available in black with the original handguard and a none folding stock...? From what I understand the folding stock will be standard for those of us in free states with the fixed stock going to ban states... None of this has been announced. and? Not decided what configs will be. Most likely fixed stocks on civilian guns at first, with folding as an available purchase. Bushmaster will do civ sales, Remington will do MIL/LE sales. the guns are made at the same plant and will be of equal quality with the MIL/LE having a few more options initially. |
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The guy that won the first ACR picked it up today....
That is a good sign for the civi market Mike Mers |
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Train till it is muscle memory!
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I wonder if it is on gunbroker yet.
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"If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all." - U.S. Rep Henry Waxman (D-CA)
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Nope, not on gunbroker yet.... Still deciding what to do with it. Wondering what it could bring, but to me it would have to be a pretty high number to concider getting rid of it. Ive been in this situation before and made some quick cash, but after it all was said and done didnt feel good about it. Everything has a price and even before I took ownership of it today i was wondering if i should even fire it. When i got it home today all i wanted to do was run about 5k rounds through it. Would be a shame as they will be available next year and i can beat the crap out of one then. Ill post pics and info for everyone in a bit, but first would like to say the following:
1. I would like to thank Joe, Kevin, Mike, Corry, and the gentlemen at Remington/Bushmaster for the oportunity and tact of offerring the rifles to the civillian market before LE/Military Orders. 2. I would like to thank Mike, Ross, and Tom at Spikes for the invite and great time at the Silencer Shoot. 3. I would also like to thank George for drivng my interest. There, with that said like a grammy winner. Here is a few new rumors that ive heard along the road of the last 3 months. Remember these are rumors, nothing more!!!! 1. LE options will be offered around the 1st of Jan 2009. This involves armorers classes, product description and testing. These orders will drive the production numbers. 2. LE models will be offered in Black. 3. Military is still testing and will most likely be the FDE/Tan. 4. Civillian release is now looking between late May to early July. 5. Civillian models will be offered in Black with the possibility of FDE/Tan if there is a need or demand for the product line. 6. There will possibly be a OD or Green Model release. This may be an all green or a black with green furniture. 7. 5 units were initially made for this offer to the public. 2 for the Shoot, 1 for the Magpul Auction/Raffle, and 2 for shot show 2010. All were destroyed due to an issue with the ATF. 8. The 2 rifles that were released for the Shoot and the 1 for the Magpul Raffle, were the first and only to be released to the public and/or LE/Military Market before Shot 2010. 9. The Pic Rail design hand guard will most likely be the Gen-3 model on the website. The Gen-4 model may be offered if demand sees fit. 10. The MOE type Forward Plastic will be offered as an option and has been under production. Thats all for now, still a few more in the pocket but im sick of typing. That should cause enough replys to keep the server bogged down for the next week or so. Sorry for the spelling, im an engineer not a English Teacher. Jesse James |
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Sorry, Also.....
Im getting the ACR's picture taken sometime this week for the forum as my skills as a photo person are not up to par with that of people that i know in the area. All will be posted somewhere here for everyones viewing pleasure and late night personal hand combat. Some quick facts about the gun to ease everyones minds for the time being..... 1. Mid length gas system, 16" barrel, m4 profile, AAC break for m42000 Can. New ratchet and lock design. 2. Gen-4 Rail system with removable pic rail sections. Rail moves a little in rear if twisted. (See Shoot Photos) 3. Came with both the new style folder with spring lock and the fixed stock. 4. New style gas block, no bayo lug, 5. Gun is Black. 6. All kinds of Q/D options on both sides of the rifle. 7. Charging handle can be flipped left or right, up or down. 8. Great fit and function, and is very easy to figure out. Rear upper pin hangs slightly when in out position. 9. Trigger is 100% better than SCAR and is very crisp. (Looks to be a standard AR style, might be wrong though) Give me a couple days and ill try and get more info out. Jesse James |
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Thanks for the run down on the stuff you have been hearing! Congrats on the rifle!
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Congrats.
If it were me I would sell it at an insane price and buy two next year. |
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"If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all." - U.S. Rep Henry Waxman (D-CA)
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Originally Posted By goodwi77:
Originally Posted By WarthogA5:
Now I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I want to read it for myself. Are the original masada/acr handguards going to be a stock option or available for later purchase? Thanks! Yes, it will be available, not decided if it's OEM or aftermarket. Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By joe-bananas:
Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By jordanh:
Originally Posted By WarthogA5:
Now I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I want to read it for myself. Are the original masada/acr handguards going to be a stock option or available for later purchase? Thanks! from what i understand from a few other threads is that the civilian bushmaster acr will be available in black with the original handguard and a none folding stock...? From what I understand the folding stock will be standard for those of us in free states with the fixed stock going to ban states... None of this has been announced. and? Not decided what configs will be. Most likely fixed stocks on civilian guns at first, with folding as an available purchase. Bushmaster will do civ sales, Remington will do MIL/LE sales. the guns are made at the same plant and will be of equal quality with the MIL/LE having a few more options initially. No one knows if they will be made the same or at the same facility. |
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Originally Posted By goodwi77:
Not decided what configs will be. Most likely fixed stocks on civilian guns at first, with folding as an available purchase. Bushmaster will do civ sales, Remington will do MIL/LE sales. the guns are made at the same plant and will be of equal quality with the MIL/LE having a few more options initially. Hrm, that last statement goes against the rumors that have been circling about the Bushmaster rifles being built to lesser quality. I so hope you're right, if the only different is the trigger group and the stamp I'll snatch one up so fast. Originally Posted By Mohitojj:
Sorry, Also..... Im getting the ACR's picture taken sometime this week for the forum as my skills as a photo person are not up to par with that of people that i know in the area. All will be posted somewhere here for everyones viewing pleasure and late night personal hand combat. Some quick facts about the gun to ease everyones minds for the time being..... 1. Mid length gas system, 16" barrel, m4 profile, AAC break for m42000 Can. New ratchet and lock design. 2. Gen-4 Rail system with removable pic rail sections. Rail moves a little in rear if twisted. (See Shoot Photos) 3. Came with both the new style folder with spring lock and the fixed stock. 4. New style gas block, no bayo lug, 5. Gun is Black. 6. All kinds of Q/D options on both sides of the rifle. 7. Charging handle can be flipped left or right, up or down. 8. Great fit and function, and is very easy to figure out. Rear upper pin hangs slightly when in out position. 9. Trigger is 100% better than SCAR and is very crisp. (Looks to be a standard AR style, might be wrong though) Give me a couple days and ill try and get more info out. Jesse James Mid-length gas system? I thought all the ACR's had the same gas piston system (or is it dependent on barrel length)? Congrats on the rifle...you've made us all insanely jealous! |
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Congrats!! This is definitely on my whats-next list.
If youre going to sell.. put a ridiculously high price on it that you simply dont have to think twice about. That way there will be no regrets and you can either stack the dough.. or use it to buy a bunch of ACR's when its finally released to the general public. Either way you win.. wait a minute.. you already did win.. lol Congrats again.. def keeping my eye on this thread!! |
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pics yet of the AAC guns?
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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
Sigmund Freud, "General Introduction to Psychoanalysis". Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidenti telum est |
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Train till it is muscle memory!
"Taking fire, breaking right" DON'T laugh I only have one AR! GUN GALLERY 4 LIFE! |
Just had a bunch of pro photos taken of the gun inside and out. Big thanks to Norm at Spikes Tactical for taking the time for all of us. Pics should be done in the next day or so, once i get them ill most likely post them in the ACR pic section or wherever admin says they should go. Thanks for all the positive feed back from everyone.
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Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
Congrats. If it were me I would sell it at an insane price and buy two next year. Pretty much what I would do. |
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Originally Posted By 1_AR_NEWBIE:
Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
pics yet of the AAC guns? Some Pics HERE Mike Mers Mike care to elaborate on the ACR SD that came along with it? or are you holding out for shot? thanks |
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Originally Posted By JONNYROCKO:
Originally Posted By 1_AR_NEWBIE:
Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
pics yet of the AAC guns? Some Pics HERE Mike Mers Mike care to elaborate on the ACR SD that came along with it? or are you holding out for shot? thanks Essentially the same thing as the M4-2000 |
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Awesome!
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Originally Posted By Mohitojj:
Okay Here they are. Been a while since ive posted pics. Snip.. Awesome pics, would love to see a top veiw. |
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Did you win the Elcan and the can with the ACR?
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"If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all." - U.S. Rep Henry Waxman (D-CA)
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I love it!! I'm assuming this is the production version?
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Nope thats my Elcan, gun came with a Comp M4, still have to pick it up. Have to look and see if i have a top view.
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Is that charging handle ambidextrous or just swappable?
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Originally Posted By JONNYROCKO:
Originally Posted By Kidonacid:
Originally Posted By Mohitojj:
Okay Here they are. Been a while since ive posted pics. Here is the weapon overall: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/ACRFull.jpg Left Side: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/BACR.jpg Right Side: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/SerialNumber.jpg The Lower with Fixed Stock: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Lower1.jpg The Lower and Fire Control Group: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Lower3.jpg Grip: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Grip.jpg Stocks: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Stocks.jpg Gas Block: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Piston2.jpg Under The Rail: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Upper2.jpg Gen-4 Rail: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Rail.jpg Barrel with Piston Kit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Piston4.jpg Upper with Bolt Group: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Mohitojj/Upper.jpg Have more that will follow when i get more time. Hope that i posted in the right place, sorry if not. Thanks again to Norm for the great pictures. Is that a spikes tactical logo on the gen 4 rail? Wait it seems to be all over this thing what did I miss? SPikes just took the pics. Like how stickman always throws his logo. Thank you for the clarification. |
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Very nice rifle. I will be holding out for FDE but it looks like it will be worth the wait. I also hope they will offer the Magpul handguard.
I also hope I can get a Remington version, but if only the BM will be offered to the general public so be it. 0351 |
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Sweet.
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Originally Posted By dr_drae:
Sweet. ![]() You know you could break those mounts and get some LaRues fo free... ![]() Unfortunately, the Specter DR mounts are the exception... Larue does not make an equivalent mount. So don't go breaking your DR throw levers! |
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What company is the NM logo?
Sorry if this has already been covered, but I can't find it. Just read the whole thread, saved all the pics, and saw all the videos. SCAR who? Thanks much |
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That thing is smokin'!
Have you had a chance to fire it yet? I'd love a range report. |
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that is BADASS. im assuming the controls are ambi, or did you just happen upon a lefty version?
Is the fixed stock shorter than the adjustable one? it looked like it was in the pictures. |
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God I cannot wait for this.. what do you guys think pricing will look like on this rifle the first month it is available to the public?? Im guessing the first ones to hit will be about $2500.. then a month later like $2000 even.. Finally about 3 months or so later..around $1500. Which is when I'll actually be able to afford it!
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I see now the NM logo graphics are Spikes Tactical. Nice Photoshop work there, though it seems odd rebranding it like that.
I still don't know what the 'NM' is about. I doubt it means the normal 'National Match'. Please let me know if you know. I used to have a Win. 300mag bolt gun branded Smith Corona, and my grandfather had a Remington Rand 1911. In WWII everyone was making everything. The BACR could have the Betty Crocker logo on it and I'd still want one! Mmm, pie. |
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Is it just me or does the gas adjustment valve thingy look extremely...exposed. I wish the handguards went further up the barrel, I get the idea that you would NOT want to give the rifle a hard knock on that area.
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Originally Posted By NutsWoC:
I see now the NM logo graphics are Spikes Tactical. Nice Photoshop work there, though it seems odd rebranding it like that. I still don't know what the 'NM' is about. I doubt it means the normal 'National Match'. Please let me know if you know. I used to have a Win. 300mag bolt gun branded Smith Corona, and my grandfather had a Remington Rand 1911. In WWII everyone was making everything. The BACR could have the Betty Crocker logo on it and I'd still want one! Mmm, pie. UH, I think that is just the photog's ID mark, not actual branding on the rifle. Originally Posted By Mohitojj:
Just had a bunch of pro photos taken of the gun inside and out. Big thanks to Norm at Spikes Tactical for taking the time for all of us. Pics should be done in the next day or so, once i get them ill most likely post them in the ACR pic section or wherever admin says they should go. Thanks for all the positive feed back from everyone. What do you want to bet Norm's last name starts with an M? |
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Originally Posted By kabob983:
Is it just me or does the gas adjustment valve thingy look extremely...exposed. I wish the handguards went further up the barrel, I get the idea that you would NOT want to give the rifle a hard knock on that area. It is pinned to the barrel. Although, I still would not want to bang it. |
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I'm hoping that FDE will be a standard color as two or three sitting next to my SCAR in my safe would be outstanding!!
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Yeah, that gas block is a quite bit over exposed. I'll want the polymer rifle length hand guards anyways though.
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn:
Originally Posted By dr_drae:
Sweet. ![]() You know you could break those mounts and get some LaRues fo free... ![]() Unfortunately, the Specter DR mounts are the exception... Larue does not make an equivalent mount. So don't go breaking your DR throw levers! Good call. ABORT ABORT ![]() |
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I'm glad to hear they went with a middy for the 16" carbine is bogus. I also wish the handguard was longer. I'm a 16/12 kinda guy.
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My strongest opinions are on things I know very little about. so take it all with a grain of salt! :)
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I'm curious to try out how it feels in person. I'd also prefer a longer rail. It doesn't look any longer than an equivalent 7" rail on an AR.
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How well will this platform suppress as it is piston driven?
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