vans heating in greenbay

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - vans heating in greenbay

Posted: 2/9/2006 4:17:49 PM EDT

has anyone have or had any run ins with vans heating heres what i had to put up with just because i decided to install my own heating they called the city on me checking to see if i had a permit not to mention they wanted to charge me more then 500 more then someone in milw would of charges

Posted: 2/9/2006 5:30:13 PM EDT

[#1]

whoa.....

Are you saying you had a problem with Van's Heating?

I am not going to go all "grammar nazi" on you. It's just that your post makes my brain hurt.

Posted: 2/9/2006 5:33:50 PM EDT

[#2]

I have never had any encounters with them.

There are certain law about doing your own heating and cooling. That said.

It is what you can expect from the trades. They get all pissed when they think someone is trying to take money away from them. Bullshit unions is what it is all about. I am a nonunion fitter. The way the union shitbags treat me and my guys sometimes is a bunch of crap. The assholes won't even shake your hand out of common courtesy. They act like you are diseased. Bunch is dickheads is all they are. Most are just fine. It's the asses that make everyone look bad.

I am sure there are people that will disagree with me. That is fine. Sometimes I would not mind being union. Make extra money to do 1/4 the work per day, and make it look as good as I do now. Why not.

Sorry BC for the language. The union issue is a hot button for me.

Posted: 2/9/2006 5:39:12 PM EDT

[#3]

What does this have to do about anything that AR15 is about? How about sticking to shooting related items, not publically bashing people or businesses.

I have no relationship with the company you mentioned. In fact, I know nothing about them. I just think we should be keeping these forums gun related.

Posted: 2/9/2006 5:43:00 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
What does this have to do about anything that AR15 is about? How about sticking to shooting related items, not publically bashing people or businesses.

I have no relationship with the company you mentioned. In fact, I know nothing about them. I just think we should be keeping these forums gun related.

I thought this was a talk about anything plus guns forum.

If people need to be alerted about less than stellar business practice...I say have at it.

Posted: 2/9/2006 6:02:11 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
I have never had any encounters with them.

There are certain law about doing your own heating and cooling. That said.

It is what you can expect from the trades. They get all pissed when they think someone is trying to take money away from them. Bullshit unions is what it is all about. I am a nonunion fitter. The way the union shitbags treat me and my guys sometimes is a bunch of crap. The assholes won't even shake your hand out of common courtesy. They act like you are diseased. Bunch is dickheads is all they are. Most are just fine. It's the asses that make everyone look bad.

I am sure there are people that will disagree with me. That is fine. Sometimes I would not mind being union. Make extra money to do 1/4 the work per day, and make it look as good as I do now. Why not.

Sorry BC for the language. The union issue is a hot button for me.

Hey, easy there Flamethrower. I happen to be a union shitbag! LMAO!! Seriously, I know what you are talking about with the shitbags that treat non-union tradesmen like they are diseased, and I am not that guy. Hell I even like you, you non-union shitbag! To be truthful, I am leaving the union shortly, a friend of mine who owns a union electrical shop is going non-union and I am going with him.

Now as for you colt100. This is the hometown forum, and I would like for you to show me where it says that the threads in here have to be related to AR15s. If you don't have anything to add to the discussion you are free to move on. Give the new guy a break.

Posted: 2/9/2006 6:11:40 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I have never had any encounters with them.

There are certain law about doing your own heating and cooling. That said.

It is what you can expect from the trades. They get all pissed when they think someone is trying to take money away from them. Bullshit unions is what it is all about. I am a nonunion fitter. The way the union shitbags treat me and my guys sometimes is a bunch of crap. The assholes won't even shake your hand out of common courtesy. They act like you are diseased. Bunch is dickheads is all they are. Most are just fine. It's the asses that make everyone look bad.

I am sure there are people that will disagree with me. That is fine. Sometimes I would not mind being union. Make extra money to do 1/4 the work per day, and make it look as good as I do now. Why not.

Sorry BC for the language. The union issue is a hot button for me.

Hey, easy there Flamethrower. I happen to be a union shitbag! LMAO!! Seriously, I know what you are talking about with the shitbags that treat non-union tradesmen like they are diseased, and I am not that guy. Hell I even like you, you non-union shitbag! To be truthful, I am leaving the union shortly, a friend of mine who owns a union electrical shop is going non-union and I am going with him.

Now as for you colt100. This is the hometown forum, and I would like for you to show me where it says that the threads in here have to be related to AR15s. If you don't have anything to add to the discussion you are free to move on. Give the new guy a break.

I know I cast a broad net there. Like I said the majority of the union guys are good to go. It's just the few bad apples that ruin it for everyone.

Take it from a non-union shitbag Dale. You are A-okay. You union shitbag you.

Posted: 2/10/2006 3:57:18 AM EDT

[#7]

i thought this was the best way to let people know about vans so they dont get screwed over by vans i know theres alot of people in green bay who love the black weapon lol

Posted: 2/10/2006 4:06:13 AM EDT

[#8]

Now as for you colt100. This is the hometown forum, and I would like for you to show me where it says that the threads in here have to be related to AR15s. If you don't have anything to add to the discussion you are free to move on. Give the new guy a break.

Thanks Dale.

I've been on both sides of the Union when it comes to the Carpentry/concrete finisher trade. I 've also been a Building Official(Inspector). Codes have changed quite a bit since back in 'my' day, but the attitude I took in cases like this (homeowner working on any GAS appliance) is to protect the neighborhood from a possible catastrophe. I would look differently at a DIY toilet swap than I would a water heater swap. There were also (liscensed, not union) tradesman in my community that would inspect and 'sign off' of trade work for th DIYer, for a cost.

As far as a company 'narcing' you out to the inspectors it happened all the time. I was not in the heating, electrical. plumbing Code enforcement area, I was assigned to property standards(FNG job), but the trade inspectors I worked with took a dim view on 'tattling'. They would talk about some of the tactics that went on between companies, some low dealing tricks, but always tried to be nice to the homeowner. There are also many, many , different 'types' of inspectors just like the cops, some try to be autonomous in thier dealings some cross the 'line'IMO and develop relationships with Trades that allow for and are based on tattling on your competition.

This is the 'middle' of winter, a bad time to be shopping a heating system(my 2 cents worth). The thing to do is get on the HTF FIRST!, this is a better place to ask for help or a heads up than to rant. Rants are good for the 'soul' but they don't help solve problems.

bulletcatchR

Posted: 2/10/2006 5:39:09 AM EDT

[#9]

Sorry to hear about your experience, gunsling. No further comment there.

FT and Dale, FWIW:

The opinion below comes from someone who had his Great Grandfather beaten within an inch of his life for crossing a picket line in the 30's, and who also happens to currently be part of one the most corrupt internationals in American history.

As a business owner I've got localities where my employee's union cards are a benefit. In some areas, the business owner has zero choice in the matter, and it's generally in those areas that the "bad" happens. In the areas where I have a choice, it can go either way. While I disagree with the basic principal of collective barganing, in the temporary construction trades it can certainly benefit both the employee and the employer.

To me, as long as there is a choice for both parties, we're all good (and I'll deal with the union bullcrap if my workers aren't part of the local). It's when the relationship is forced upon the two by Government mandate that I have issues with it.

Posted: 2/16/2006 10:31:42 AM EDT

[#10]

heres one more thing to add about vans heating then ill quit bitching lol they charged me for a infrared scan that i found out there isnt such a thing nothing like getting ripped off i guess they needed 80 bucks more then i did people beware

Posted: 2/16/2006 12:40:46 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
heres one more thing to add about vans heating then ill quit bitching lol they charged me for a infrared scan that i found out there isnt such a thing nothing like getting ripped off i guess they needed 80 bucks more then i did people beware

What do you mean there isn't such a thing as an infrared scan? We use them in the electrical industry, and I am sure that other trades use them too. Did they scan your furnace to look for hot spots, or your chimney to see how much heat you were blowing out?

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