stripped lower receiver

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - stripped lower receiver

Posted: 1/20/2013 9:02:19 AM EDT

guys still haven't got definite answer on this please feel free to chime in
on 1/11/13 i placed order for stripped lower still have not received it .
wondering when and if they do ship will i be able to get it ?
is my ffl still legal to transfer it to me ?
spoke to him last day after laws where past and he had no idea

Posted: 1/20/2013 9:08:51 AM EDT

[#1]

If it was paid for in advance of the enactment, then it may be delivered.
For example: You called PSA and ordered a lower, paid with your CC, and was told it'll be shipped to your dealer once its made, then the Dealer CAN transfer it to you.
Ostensibly if you contacted your Dealer and had him special order a receiver from you and he took a deposit, then it can be transferred.

Of course, I'm not in the Legal profession and there are still many questions to be answered and positions to be challenged, it appears that what I have said is good-to-go, of not someone will certainly call "bullshit"

Posted: 1/20/2013 1:31:03 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
If it was paid for in advance of the enactment, then it may be delivered.
For example: You called PSA and ordered a lower, paid with your CC, and was told it'll be shipped to your dealer once its made, then the Dealer CAN transfer it to you.
Ostensibly if you contacted your Dealer and had him special order a receiver from you and he took a deposit, then it can be transferred.

Of course, I'm not in the Legal profession and there are still many questions to be answered and positions to be challenged, it appears that what I have said is good-to-go, of not someone will certainly call "bullshit"

STRIPPED receivers are GTG - date doesn't matter...

I have spoken to the NYSP firearms division myself and was told by a trooper that a stripped receiver is viewed as a "featureless firearm" and it is up to you to comply with the law once you take possession - if anyone doesn't believe me make the call yourself.

However, it sounds like some FFL's are scared to do this kind of transfer from posts I've read in this forum...do your homework and call around and I'm sure you will be able to find a FFL that will do the transfer - my experience is that most are.

Posted: 1/20/2013 1:50:31 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If it was paid for in advance of the enactment, then it may be delivered.
For example: You called PSA and ordered a lower, paid with your CC, and was told it'll be shipped to your dealer once its made, then the Dealer CAN transfer it to you.
Ostensibly if you contacted your Dealer and had him special order a receiver from you and he took a deposit, then it can be transferred.

Of course, I'm not in the Legal profession and there are still many questions to be answered and positions to be challenged, it appears that what I have said is good-to-go, of not someone will certainly call "bullshit"

STRIPPED receivers are GTG - date doesn't matter...

I have spoken to the NYSP firearms division myself and was told by a trooper that a stripped receiver is viewed as a "featureless firearm" and it is up to you to comply with the law once you take possession - if anyone doesn't believe me make the call yourself.

However, it sounds like some FFL's are scared to do this kind of transfer from posts I've read in this forum...do your homework and call around and I'm sure you will be able to find a FFL that will do the transfer - my experience is that most are.

BUT...what if the receiver's manufacturer is on the named ban list?????

Posted: 1/20/2013 1:57:35 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If it was paid for in advance of the enactment, then it may be delivered.
For example: You called PSA and ordered a lower, paid with your CC, and was told it'll be shipped to your dealer once its made, then the Dealer CAN transfer it to you.
Ostensibly if you contacted your Dealer and had him special order a receiver from you and he took a deposit, then it can be transferred.

Of course, I'm not in the Legal profession and there are still many questions to be answered and positions to be challenged, it appears that what I have said is good-to-go, of not someone will certainly call "bullshit"

STRIPPED receivers are GTG - date doesn't matter...

I have spoken to the NYSP firearms division myself and was told by a trooper that a stripped receiver is viewed as a "featureless firearm" and it is up to you to comply with the law once you take possession - if anyone doesn't believe me make the call yourself.

However, it sounds like some FFL's are scared to do this kind of transfer from posts I've read in this forum...do your homework and call around and I'm sure you will be able to find a FFL that will do the transfer - my experience is that most are.

BUT...what if the receiver's manufacturer is on the named ban list?????

The ban list means absolutely nothing.

Follow the law

Posted: 1/20/2013 2:30:09 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If it was paid for in advance of the enactment, then it may be delivered.
For example: You called PSA and ordered a lower, paid with your CC, and was told it'll be shipped to your dealer once its made, then the Dealer CAN transfer it to you.
Ostensibly if you contacted your Dealer and had him special order a receiver from you and he took a deposit, then it can be transferred.

Of course, I'm not in the Legal profession and there are still many questions to be answered and positions to be challenged, it appears that what I have said is good-to-go, of not someone will certainly call "bullshit"

STRIPPED receivers are GTG - date doesn't matter...

I have spoken to the NYSP firearms division myself and was told by a trooper that a stripped receiver is viewed as a "featureless firearm" and it is up to you to comply with the law once you take possession - if anyone doesn't believe me make the call yourself.

However, it sounds like some FFL's are scared to do this kind of transfer from posts I've read in this forum...do your homework and call around and I'm sure you will be able to find a FFL that will do the transfer - my experience is that most are.

BUT...what if the receiver's manufacturer is on the named ban list?????

Doesn't matter

A stripped receiver IS a firearm. How many features does it possess? NONE - therefore it does not meet the definition of an AW and is not illegal under SAFE 2013. The list on the website assumes the receiver of the named firearm has at least one evil feature attached to it.

The NYSP online list is a sloppy way to scare people into thinking they cannot have any components of the named firearm when this is legally not he case. Kinda of the same methodology when certain counties say a "target" pistol permit really isn't a carry permit when in fact it is - if caught carrying o/s restrictions there are no criminal charges that can be brought against you. This may not be quite an apples to oranges example because in the carry license example you may end up losing your permit due to administrative actions, but hopefully you can see the point I'm trying to illustrate.

The only thing that matters is if the long gun you have has no evil features. Go buy a stripped ar15 receiver. Add a compliant barrel, add a fixed stock. Then add one of those dumb looking wedge things in place of the pistol grip. What do you have when you are done? A semi-auto that accepts a detachable mag that DOES NOT possess any "evil features". Perfectly legal under SAFE and doesn't need to be registered.

Posted: 1/20/2013 2:54:30 PM EDT

[#6]

Guys so far like what I am hearing hope my ffl got the same info
and the place i ordered it from doesn't decide to not ship anymore
well guess well see think around the end of this week should here
something (fingers crossed) thanks guys

Posted: 1/20/2013 3:29:39 PM EDT

[#7]

Per the FAQ if you ordered it before 1/15/13 you can make it 1994-2012 legal.

Build as you see fit.

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