I ws thinking theres safety in numbers. And if the S Hs TF who would be interested in meeting in a central location to pool resources and get a kind of  base going, We would have a much better chance of surviving with more hunters and more security and more workers and on top of that we would not go nuts, we would have people to talk to. Just tossing that one out there what do you guys think?

Umm, did somebody just watch Red Dawn again?

Just kidding with ya'

GlockSpeed31

I think it's necessary to devise a number of sub-locations for the initial "triage", and then key spots for the next stage of transitting to the final destination.

#2- you really have to get personal with the people you're going to meet up with. I mean, you have to know who and what they really are, and decide if you can tolerate the differences enough to keep those same differences from becoming problems, because eventually you'll be sharing resources/caches, etc. and you want to know you can trust these people to the utmost.

#3- people have to get real. Some have training, and some have none, and some think they know what they really don't know.

It takes dedication and effort and most of us really aren't interested in spending the time and energy to KNOW what will be required of us.

I know there are a few in GA that practice. One place to get in touch with these people is on the survival board on Arfcom. There are ocassional meets in state for camp outs and such.

To explain a bit of what I mean in #2- let's take a basic example. Let's say there is a violent proactive , aggressive enemy that will seek out those hiding/ providing for themselves as the enemy recognizes it as a threat.

say there are three familys that have teamed up. Couple #1 are in their 20's, healthy, capable, but not experienced in outdoors life. They have no children. #2 is in their late 40's or early 50's. Kids are gone. They are prepared for the life away from normality, but health is less than ideal (maybe necessary medical issues (diabetes). #3 have a child of 4- and an infant under 12 months, the couple is in their 30's, and share similar capabilities of the others.

When things get hot- a few periods of close calls or contact with the enemy, and it's a bit too close for comfort- what happens when couple 3's baby starts crying, risking exposing all to the enemy? What happens when they can't move as fast because of the baby, or the other kid gets sick? Or #2 has health problems that's slowing everyone down? Or they want to try to contact their kids?

These are the things that I think need to be thought out before inviting a group of people to be close.

Desperate situations will test the bond formed, so choosing wisely will resolve a lot of issues before they expose themselves.

mid 20's. no children. peachtree hills/buckhead area. interested. plan A is to bug out though. i sure would hate to have to bug in where i live.hock.gif

People must realize and I hate to use chliches but "A chain is only as strong as its weakest link" I have a wife and 2 kids, if you dont like it leave. I am not talking about a gang, you are free to leave at any time. Just looking for people that would be willing to learn and from eachother, I know most former military are used to working with diversity, and that would be one thing that people will have to accept, if not they are free to leave it would have to be a working community and people would share duties. such as guard, patrols, hunting, cooking, water purification and other duties as needed, I think that people will realize that its either do it or live on your own they sill find themsleves not being so selfish.

Let's regroup at the Varsity.

Quoted: Let's regroup at the Varsity.

Need I remind you of this?  
Lets go to the varsity
How about somewhere more rural

Quoted: If we're in a SHTF scenario and I don't know you, I really don't care that you are an ARFCOM guy.  If I don't know you, you are NOT getting close to my family.  That's just my gut reaction.  Most of the ARFOM guys I've met have become good friends.  Almost all my closest friends are ARFCOM members.  But I have met a handful of ARFCOM guys that didn't impress me too much.  I can even think of a couple folks who I wouldn't trust with my dog's food dish.

No kidding! I like this forum, but I certainly don't plan on acting like someone that I exchange forum posts with on the internet is someone that I can count on in a bad situation.

No offense, but that's being realistic in my opinion.

I have said it once, I'll say it again.

When the SHTF,  my squad (self, wife, and daughters) will be bugging out to Compound Bookhound.

Book - 3 of 'em can shoot and have firearms that they are familiar with. The other 2 can haul lots of stuff. MRE's, water, meds, etc. (which are all packed up and ready to go).

Until I can replace some stuff, the wife will be carrying the M4, the oldest two will be carrying 9mm ARs. I haven't decided between the 20" AR w/ the Trijicon or the AMD65/AK47 for a little extra punch. I even have a few 'extras'.

Thompson, dont forget to come pick me up when the SHTF on your way to compound bookhound

I'm bugging in.

At this point the family could last a long time comfortably. My main concern is still fuel, meds and communications.

Any HAM guys out there? What's an entry-level rig cost?

Quoted: Thompson, dont forget to come pick me up when the SHTF on your way to compound bookhound

I think he may have been talking about me in his earlier quote:

Quoted: If we're in a SHTF scenario and I don't know you, I really don't care that you are an ARFCOM guy.  If I don't know you, you are NOT getting close to my family.  That's just my gut reaction.  Most of the ARFOM guys I've met have become good friends.  Almost all my closest friends are ARFCOM members.  But I have met a handful of ARFCOM guys that didn't impress me too much.  I can even think of a couple folks who I wouldn't trust with my dog's food dish.

We may be on our own.

A good plan IMHO is to have several options widely scattered, as well as safe houses for discreet travel.

SHTF can be very localized or more wide spread.

Say, that nuke plant NW of the Atlanta area has a big problemo, the entire northern part of the state will be subject to fallout, none of your no. Ga assets will help you.  (substitute power, water, etc for nuke plant).

Mid or south Ga would be an option, as well as maybe central N.C. (Wardawg, you there?)

To me, a bug out would be a minimum of 100 miles, and completely out of the political environment of the affected area.

How to establish the network?  Don't know, except to add your trusted contacts one at a time after much casual contact.

If the S Hs TF I am buggin out.....way out all this buggin in is nonsense to me, I want to be as far away from civilization as possible and as for moving to this house then to that one farther from the citya little at a time, your not gonna have a chance. If we were attacked or ina civil war the roads are gonna be guarded. I am gettin the hell out of dodge as soon as I see its imminent. To the woods preferably and in the mountains if can be. Thats gonne be the last place they will come. The rest will have to be dealt with with the time comes. Did you guys check out my idea for the water purifier? ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=123&t=394972
I think this will work and thought I would share it. I figure its gonna weight about 15 pounds. I need to come up with the money then build it then have the water tested to see how good it works. Gonna be a couple of months probably. since I am a po white boy.

Quoted: A good plan IMHO is to have several options widely scattered, as well as safe houses for discreet travel. SHTF can be very localized or more wide spread. Mid or south Ga would be an option, as well as maybe central N.C. (Wardawg, you there?) .

Yeah buddie Im here. Im at the foothill of the Sarua Mountains....   WarDawg

Quoted: If the S Hs TF I am buggin out.....way out all this buggin in is nonsense to me, I want to be as far away from civilization as possible and as for moving to this house then to that one farther from the citya little at a time, your not gonna have a chance. If we were attacked or ina civil war the roads are gonna be guarded. I am gettin the hell out of dodge as soon as I see its imminent. To the woods preferably and in the mountains if can be. Thats gonne be the last place they will come.

Just who is the "they" who is going to invade the U.S.?

Unless one is going to bug out to areas well west of the Mississippi, you will be on someone else's land, or gov't land that the locals are intimately familiar with, and they will know you are there and not be happy about it.

An armed outsider showing up uninvited will probably be shot, no questions asked should things get tight.  It is a romantic notion that there are uninhabitated "woods" one can just claim as their own.  Add having to camp and build shelter with little or no resources, and you have a situation that will go from bad to worse quickly.

As to water filters, there are gravity operated ceramic filters that weigh less than 2 lbs that will turn pond scum water to potable water with no need for boiling or chem purifyers.  I have had one for several years, and it works as advertised.

As far as fleeing in the face of adversity, I would prefer to work with responsible members of my community and fix the problem.  Problem with scum invading from down the road, hang a few bodies at the county line with a sign saying their kind are not welcome.  Works with crows and coyotes (no sign needed, the hanging corpse is all that is needed).

Quoted: thompsondd, you know you are always welcome.  You too, A-Train.  Just make sure you bring beer.

LOTS of beer!!!!  

A vital component of everyone's SHTF preparation needs.

Quoted: Unless one is going to bug out to areas well west of the Mississippi, you will be on someone else's land, or gov't land that the locals are intimately familiar with, and they will know you are there and not be happy about it.

I agree in principal, however I think one of the benefits of hunting on various pieces of private property throughout the years/seasons does give some advantages. We are able to get to know various people on a personal level, and maybe, just maybe, one of them will be somewhat welcoming should the SHTF. If not, then we will atleast know which ones we could easily kill and take their land. (J/K)

Quoted: Quoted: If the S Hs TF I am buggin out.....way out all this buggin in is nonsense to me, I want to be as far away from civilization as possible and as for moving to this house then to that one farther from the citya little at a time, your not gonna have a chance. If we were attacked or ina civil war the roads are gonna be guarded. I am gettin the hell out of dodge as soon as I see its imminent. To the woods preferably and in the mountains if can be. Thats gonne be the last place they will come. Just who is the "they" who is going to invade the U.S.? Unless one is going to bug out to areas well west of the Mississippi, you will be on someone else's land, or gov't land that the locals are intimately familiar with, and they will know you are there and not be happy about it. An armed outsider showing up uninvited will probably be shot, no questions asked should things get tight.  It is a romantic notion that there are uninhabitated "woods" one can just claim as their own.  Add having to camp and build shelter with little or no resources, and you have a situation that will go from bad to worse quickly. As to water filters, there are gravity operated ceramic filters that weigh less than 2 lbs that will turn pond scum water to potable water with no need for boiling or chem purifyers.  I have had one for several years, and it works as advertised. As far as fleeing in the face of adversity, I would prefer to work with responsible members of my community and fix the problem.  Problem with scum invading from down the road, hang a few bodies at the county line with a sign saying their kind are not welcome.  Works with crows and coyotes (no sign needed, the hanging corpse is all that is needed).

So what your saying is we should never prepare for some other country trying to invade us? And as far as uninhabited woods. You mean theres NO land in goergia thats far enough out that people would not be found? Thats rediculous. I alread have 2 places planned that are owned by friends that I would be welcome. And to answer your question NO I do not plan on just pulling over and setting up camp in the woods somewhere. As far as fleeing in the face of adversity? No, You can stay in your neighbor hood and if you have the balls to hang some dead people then you deal with the government reprocussions. I am taking my family and a few choice friends and heading out for higher ground. Because by the time the shit hits the fan its gonna be too late for diplomatic actions.

If we're in a SHTF scenario and I don't know you, I really don't care that you are an ARFCOM guy. If I don't know you, you are NOT getting close to my family. That's just my gut reaction. Most of the ARFOM guys I've met have become good friends. Almost all my closest friends are ARFCOM members. But I have met a handful of ARFCOM guys that didn't impress me too much. I can even think of a couple folks who I wouldn't trust with my dog's food dish.

Dammit, I wanted that dish.