(iv) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following:

[(i)] (I) An ability to accept a detachable ammunition magazine that attaches at some location outside of the pistol grip;

(II) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a  flash suppressor, forward pistol grip or silencer;

(III) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to  fire the firearm without being burned, except a slide that encloses the barrel; or

(IV) A second hand grip; or

(v) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the ability to accept more than ten rounds




what do you all think would constitute a second hand grip?

One that you buy that has already been used?

Posted this in reply to your same question over on CTGT:

PA 13-3 defines second hand grip as follows...

(9) "Second hand grip" means a grip or similar feature that can function as a grip that is additional to the trigger hand grip.

Some something like this is what I assume they are talking about...



or this...

so this would be good to go maybe?

Ab Arms Handguard maybe ? Can I make a 300 blk aids cannon using a virgin post ban Stag Arms lower ?  

diggin that hand guard

The question is what constitutes a "grip" in addition to the "the trigger hand grip"? Notice the way the state defines "Second hand grip", they do not mention "pistol grip" rather they just say "grip" which could be interpreted in a variety of ways.

ya, i know, thats why i asked you guys


even if that wouldnt fly, ive still got another idea