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Posted: 8/2/2011 8:11:40 PM EDT
just a lot of people on the board here killing or thinking of killing themselves here lately?
been cruising through GD here lately, and maybe it's just the way I'm reading it, but it sure seems there are a lot of threads talking of suicide  .
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Posted: 8/2/2011 8:23:28 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses  always causing problems...etc.
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Posted: 8/2/2011 8:55:42 PM EDT
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MrClean4Hire and another.
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Posted: 8/2/2011 9:52:31 PM EDT
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There are so many things people deem as a reason to take their lives but it is a mess they leave behind.
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Posted: 8/3/2011 5:00:45 AM EDT
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There are reasons behind those occurrences that are common to many of them.
The economy, the lack of optimism in their life - no blue sky ahead, social pressures, the news media's noir (look it up) news casts, etc. There is hope though. But they have to ask for Him to come into their life. |
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Posted: 8/3/2011 5:47:38 AM EDT
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its quite common right now,theres a hoplessness,that exists.
life shits on some people so much they just call it quits. I would like to say prayer helps but for some they really believe god has given up on them. |
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Posted: 8/3/2011 6:44:25 AM EDT
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its quite common right now,theres a hoplessness,that exists. life shits on some people so much they just call it quits. I would like to say prayer helps but for some they really believe god has given up on them. That black cloud is spreading, growing more every day. And that may not be the really bad thing just over the horizon. I think many people are sensing it but don't realize it. |
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Posted: 8/3/2011 1:12:03 PM EDT
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I think it has something to do with all the gay threads!
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Posted: 8/3/2011 1:41:25 PM EDT
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I think it has something to do with all the gay threads! Some are upset about Dan finally hanging up his kneepads and deciding to become a top? |
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Posted: 8/3/2011 2:04:25 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
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Posted: 8/3/2011 2:07:44 PM EDT
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There are reasons behind those occurrences that are common to many of them. The economy, the lack of optimism in their life - no blue sky ahead, social pressures, the news media's noir (look it up) news casts, etc. There is hope though. But they have to ask for Him to come into their life. got to be more to it than that, because those aren't good enough reasons to me, hell everybody has hard times. |
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Posted: 8/3/2011 2:11:56 PM EDT
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its quite common right now,theres a hoplessness,that exists. life shits on some people so much they just call it quits. I would like to say prayer helps but for some they really believe god has given up on them. hopelessness? any day you wake up there's hope, sure there are people out there in incredible pain due to whatever reason, but there is damn few of them that there is no hope for. I know several people that have killed themselves, and several more that have tried to, the reasons for didn't seem that great to me. |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 3:10:14 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
uh the suicide rate during the great depression was very high its the same thing that has always happened |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 3:26:21 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
uh the suicide rate during the great depression was very high its the same thing that has always happened like I say, no higher than what our father's or grandfather's faced. |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 3:49:29 PM EDT
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While I think it is horrible that someone would kill themselves or consider it. Nothing in my opinion can be that bad in your life that you would want to end it. I think that it is a weak or damaged mind that sees suicide as a viable alternative.
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Posted: 8/4/2011 3:55:04 PM EDT
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While I think it is horrible that someone would kill themselves or consider it. Nothing in my opinion can be that bad in your life that you would want to end it. I think that it is a weak or damaged mind that sees suicide as a viable alternative. just seen another thread in GD where someone killed themselves last night. whoever posted said the person was drunk and playing with a gun, so maybe not an intentional suicide. |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 4:39:50 PM EDT
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There are reasons behind those occurrences that are common to many of them. The economy, the lack of optimism in their life - no blue sky ahead, social pressures, the news media's noir (look it up) news casts, etc. There is hope though. But they have to ask for Him to come into their life. got to be more to it than that, because those aren't good enough reasons to me, hell everybody has hard times. Brother L, it may not make me popular, or it may piss people off, but I think a lot of it is due to the disillusionment many find from all the BS they get fed in public education. I'm telling you that kids get fed pure bullshit at the earliest age, become indoctrinated and believe it to their very core, then later on blame themselves instead of realizing it ain't all peaches and cream in life. |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 5:10:31 PM EDT
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There are reasons behind those occurrences that are common to many of them. The economy, the lack of optimism in their life - no blue sky ahead, social pressures, the news media's noir (look it up) news casts, etc. There is hope though. But they have to ask for Him to come into their life. got to be more to it than that, because those aren't good enough reasons to me, hell everybody has hard times. Brother L, it may not make me popular, or it may piss people off, but I think a lot of it is due to the disillusionment many find from all the BS they get fed in public education. I'm telling you that kids get fed pure bullshit at the earliest age, become indoctrinated and believe it to their very core, then later on blame themselves instead of realizing it ain't all peaches and cream in life. well there is a lot of people been ruined by political correctness, lots of kids being taught that everyone is equal, life's fair and all that mickymouse bullshit. hell a kid gets raised knowing nothing is ever as good as they want it to be, life's not fair and bad things happen to good people everyday then when the shtf they tuck in their shirt and work their way through it. |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 5:21:46 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
uh the suicide rate during the great depression was very high its the same thing that has always happened like I say, no higher than what our father's or grandfather's faced. 1932 was the US all time high for suicide rate. historically in the US the suicide rate has gone up and down with the economy. no mystery really |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 5:28:17 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
uh the suicide rate during the great depression was very high its the same thing that has always happened like I say, no higher than what our father's or grandfather's faced. 1932 was the US all time high for suicide rate. historically in the US the suicide rate has gone up and down with the economy. no mystery really hell if money's the reason, that makes even less sence to me, fucking money is nice, but it don't mean nothing. |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 5:44:20 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
uh the suicide rate during the great depression was very high its the same thing that has always happened like I say, no higher than what our father's or grandfather's faced. 1932 was the US all time high for suicide rate. historically in the US the suicide rate has gone up and down with the economy. no mystery really hell if money's the reason, that makes even less sence to me, fucking money is nice, but it don't mean nothing. hard financial times lead to a multitude of other personal problems and stress, particularly for male adults. The ones that choose to check out just cant deal with those problems I guess. I am sure you can find some type of corrolation with any other civalization in history. People have acted the same way since the creation of man |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 5:57:44 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
uh the suicide rate during the great depression was very high its the same thing that has always happened like I say, no higher than what our father's or grandfather's faced. 1932 was the US all time high for suicide rate. historically in the US the suicide rate has gone up and down with the economy. no mystery really hell if money's the reason, that makes even less sence to me, fucking money is nice, but it don't mean nothing. hard financial times lead to a multitude of other personal problems and stress, particularly for male adults. The ones that choose to check out just cant deal with those problems I guess. I am sure you can find some type of corrolation with any other civalization in history. People have acted the same way since the creation of man guess so, maybe it's money, women or life in general, maybe a combination of all three and then some, still don't make any sence to me, maybe because I've never had much money at any given time, there's plenty of crazy women to go around and/or life's been kicking my ass for so long I've become accustomed to it and just don't know any better . and maybe it's because I've got a clear conscience, baby's wished they slept as soundly as me
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Posted: 8/4/2011 6:16:04 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
uh the suicide rate during the great depression was very high its the same thing that has always happened like I say, no higher than what our father's or grandfather's faced. 1932 was the US all time high for suicide rate. historically in the US the suicide rate has gone up and down with the economy. no mystery really hell if money's the reason, that makes even less sence to me, fucking money is nice, but it don't mean nothing. hard financial times lead to a multitude of other personal problems and stress, particularly for male adults. The ones that choose to check out just cant deal with those problems I guess. I am sure you can find some type of corrolation with any other civalization in history. People have acted the same way since the creation of man guess so, maybe it's money, women or life in general, maybe a combination of all three and then some, still don't make any sence to me, maybe because I've never had much money at any given time, there's plenty of crazy women to go around and/or life's been kicking my ass for so long I've become accustomed to it and just don't know any better . and maybe it's because I've got a clear conscience, baby's wished they slept as soundly as me
I have always felt it was a chicken shit way out of things, a real bitch move, for one to take his life and leave his wife, kids, family, and friends to deal with it. I know people and have had friends do it and I lost all respect for them. I feel for the ones who are always left with a bigger mess then what he had before |
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Posted: 8/4/2011 6:44:56 PM EDT
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Fammyman I guess..
Have not heard of any others Lot of pressure in 'modern life'...the economy is in ashes...we will have a socialist led guv that wants to redistribute wealth for the forseeable future...decline in Christian values....spouses always causing problems...etc.
None of the above are suitable reasons to take one's own life...but it happens. there are no more pressures today than what our fathers and grandfathers faced, the economy has always been the shits to the avg working man, the solialist shit is just another faction of the G that's gotten too large for it's and our own good, nothing we're going to do to change it short of a revolution, as for declination of christian values...meh, lot of good people that aren't christians making their way through life. don't buy into any of those reasons, lots of people have lived the high life, went bust and started over again, some have done it multiple times for various reasons, some unbelievibly heartwreching, but they started over, but to each his own I guess because I don't understand it .
uh the suicide rate during the great depression was very high its the same thing that has always happened like I say, no higher than what our father's or grandfather's faced. 1932 was the US all time high for suicide rate. historically in the US the suicide rate has gone up and down with the economy. no mystery really hell if money's the reason, that makes even less sence to me, fucking money is nice, but it don't mean nothing. hard financial times lead to a multitude of other personal problems and stress, particularly for male adults. The ones that choose to check out just cant deal with those problems I guess. I am sure you can find some type of corrolation with any other civalization in history. People have acted the same way since the creation of man guess so, maybe it's money, women or life in general, maybe a combination of all three and then some, still don't make any sence to me, maybe because I've never had much money at any given time, there's plenty of crazy women to go around and/or life's been kicking my ass for so long I've become accustomed to it and just don't know any better . and maybe it's because I've got a clear conscience, baby's wished they slept as soundly as me
I have always felt it was a chicken shit way out of things, a real bitch move, for one to take his life and leave his wife, kids, family, and friends to deal with it. I know people and have had friends do it and I lost all respect for them. I feel for the ones who are always left with a bigger mess then what he had before no shit, few I went to hs with killed themselves over women, shit I knew the chicks and damned if I'd ever understand why anyone would want to kill themselves over them leaving, had a cousin kill himself playing with a gun, another dude I know over gambling debts which weren't shit, a chick that was a few years older than me cashed in her chips over a seemingly minor issue. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 9:42:06 AM EDT
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SNIP- life's not fair and bad things happen to good people everyday then when the shtf they tuck in their shirt and work their way through it. It's a cryin' ass shame people won't raise their children with good old common sense anymore. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 9:53:38 AM EDT
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SNIP- life's not fair and bad things happen to good people everyday then when the shtf they tuck in their shirt and work their way through it. It's a cryin' ass shame people won't raise their children with good old common sense anymore. yep |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 5:20:12 PM EDT
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Depression (and sometimes the resulting suicide) is an illness that just comes to people.
It is often a mental illness when it is severe or even moderate depression. People don't choose depression willingly, it chooses them. ETA Maybe we should make watching every John Wayne movie made mandatory for all grade school students. Then they should turn out OK!
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Posted: 8/8/2011 6:50:36 PM EDT
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Depression (and sometimes the resulting suicide) is an illness that just comes to people. It is often a mental illness when it is severe or even moderate depression. People don't choose depression willingly, it chooses them. ETA Maybe we should make watching every John Wayne movie made mandatory for all grade school students. Then they should turn out OK! like hell, you don't want them to kill themselves before they're old enough to know better; you want them to watch good westerns, show them some jimmy stuart or clint eastwood. |
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Posted: 8/9/2011 7:51:21 AM EDT
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Depression (and sometimes the resulting suicide) is an illness that just comes to people. It is often a mental illness when it is severe or even moderate depression. People don't choose depression willingly, it chooses them. ETA Maybe we should make watching every John Wayne movie made mandatory for all grade school students. Then they should turn out OK! like hell, you don't want them to kill themselves before they're old enough to know better; you want them to watch good westerns, show them some jimmy stuart or clint eastwood. You just like Jimmy Stewart cuz he married Cochise's sister when he was an Indian agent. 
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Posted: 8/9/2011 7:16:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2011 9:41:35 AM EDT
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Damn . . . . . .
You some of you guys equate to those opinions and decisions rendered at war time from a comfortable seat at DC vs calls made on the ground. No one likes an arm chair quarterback. However much you think you know about someones case and whats going through their heads and life equates to precisely DICK. You can condemn and be part of their problems and foresight or you can step up and be a man and help those in need. God does all the judging in my life for me. Its not my place to spout bull shit and make others feel out of place or like shit. God will judge you for your actions as well. Even the little drivel you spew through a keyboard here on open forum. Way to be part of the problem. Shit like this may just be whats needed for someone to finish themselves off. Every think of that. That isn't natural selection. That equates to you imposing pressure when you should have been trying to relieve stress, educate and comfort. I am not pro suicide. You can make the difference if you choose to. But the choices I read before me . . . . . . . . . seriously . . . . . . . . its just sad. |
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Damn . . . . . . You some of you guys equate to those opinions and decisions rendered at war time from a comfortable seat at DC vs calls made on the ground. No one likes an arm chair quarterback. However much you think you know about someones case and whats going through their heads and life equates to precisely DICK. You can condemn and be part of their problems and foresight or you can step up and be a man and help those in need. God does all the judging in my life for me. Its not my place to spout bull shit and make others feel out of place or like shit. God will judge you for your actions as well. Even the little drivel you spew through a keyboard here on open forum. Way to be part of the problem. Shit like this may just be whats needed for someone to finish themselves off. Every think of that. That isn't natural selection. That equates to you imposing pressure when you should have been trying to relieve stress, educate and comfort. I am not pro suicide. You can make the difference if you choose to. But the choices I read before me . . . . . . . . . seriously . . . . . . . . its just sad. Lighten up Francis  You're too young to be that bitter. Now at my age however....................
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Posted: 8/10/2011 7:26:52 PM EDT
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Depression (and sometimes the resulting suicide) is an illness that just comes to people. It is often a mental illness when it is severe or even moderate depression. People don't choose depression willingly, it chooses them. ETA Maybe we should make watching every John Wayne movie made mandatory for all grade school students. Then they should turn out OK! like hell, you don't want them to kill themselves before they're old enough to know better; you want them to watch good westerns, show them some jimmy stuart or clint eastwood. You just like Jimmy Stewart cuz he married Cochise's sister when he was an Indian agent.
And you like Clint Eastwood cuz he missed the renegade Indians when he shot at them. I like jimmy stuart cause he didn't just play a hero in hollywood flicks, he was a real life hero that could act. clint, hell he's just cool, he could act too, john wayne, compared to the above actors in motorcycle terms, john wayne would be a scooter. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 2:40:39 AM EDT
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john wayne, compared to the above actors in motorcycle terms, john wayne would be a scooter. He may have only been a scooter in acting but he was a deadly shooter anyway.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:43:40 AM EDT
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john wayne, compared to the above actors in motorcycle terms, john wayne would be a scooter. He may have only been a scooter in acting but he was a deadly shooter anyway.
only in the movies, he couldn't shoot worth a damn outside of a movie script
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