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Posted: 6/16/2014 10:30:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/16/2014 10:35:42 AM EDT by gajeep94yj]
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/16/supreme-court-rules-on-straw-purchaser-law/

Supreme Court says you can't but a gun for someone else even if both are allowed to own a gun.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 10:46:39 AM EDT
So are they planning on placing a minimum time you must own a firearm after purchase before resale? Just seems the same as if you buy a gun, don't like it like you thought and your brother in laws cousins friend says he'll buy it from you a week later. Or is it mandatory at that point to do a dealer transfer?
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 10:49:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/16/2014 10:58:31 AM EDT by jmarkma]
Wow, how wonderful. No more guns as gifts between the gf and I.

Reading the decision, as stupid as it may be, he received money to buy the gun for someone else keeping it from falling into the "gift" category as he wasn't the actual buyer.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 10:58:47 AM EDT
Intent is hard to prove. Don't put anything down on paper or computer.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:27:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/16/2014 11:29:54 AM EDT by wiseanhyzer]
Buying a firearms for someone as a gift is 100% legal. Buying one on someone's behalf is not (it's called straw purchasing) and it should not be news.

Page 4, Question 11.a explanation here: https://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:49:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/16/2014 11:50:08 AM EDT by Brownie63]
He was buying it for someone else from the get-go to take advantage of his law enforcement discount. He had already received a check for $400 IIRC with a memo notation for "Glock 19".

It was a straw purchase. I would have ruled it the same way.

It only drew attention because the weapon was later used in a crime and they were tracing it back. Overzealous LEOs looking for a criminal to uncover and they noticed the check pre-dated the purchase.



It was not a situation where someone bought it for himself and gifted it which I think is still gtg.

If you're going to buy for your kid, then buy it but tell him its not his until he safely learns to operate it. Problem solved.

If you're going to buy it for someone as a gift. Make the purchase and then you can give him the weapon that belongs to you. No problem as long as you know you're not knowingly providing a weapon to someone who cannot lawfully possess it.

Don't over-react just because an unknowledgeable media twisted the story.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:06:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:


Supreme Court says you can't but a gun for someone else even if both are allowed to own a gun.
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That's not what the ruling says.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:58:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wtturn:

That's not what the ruling says.
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Originally Posted By wtturn:
Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:


Supreme Court says you can't but a gun for someone else even if both are allowed to own a gun.

That's not what the ruling says.


That's what the headlines are saying though... Suprise...
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 4:42:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wiseanhyzer:
Buying a firearms for someone as a gift is 100% legal. Buying one on someone's behalf is not (it's called straw purchasing) and it should not be news.
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How do you figure that? Holder and the ATF allowed it time and time again during operation Fast and Furious! Must be legal.


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If you haven't figured it out, I'm kidding. Its the typical Nobama Administration position of do as I say, not as I do.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 6:02:39 PM EDT
I am so glad this was bs.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 7:12:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/16/2014 7:18:32 PM EDT by feeling_infringed]
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Originally Posted By Brownie63:
He was buying it for someone else from the get-go to take advantage of his law enforcement discount. He had already received a check for $400 IIRC with a memo notation for "Glock 19".

It was a straw purchase. I would have ruled it the same way.

It only drew attention because the weapon was later used in a crime and they were tracing it back. Overzealous LEOs looking for a criminal to uncover and they noticed the check pre-dated the purchase.



It was not a situation where someone bought it for himself and gifted it which I think is still gtg.

If you're going to buy for your kid, then buy it but tell him its not his until he safely learns to operate it. Problem solved.

If you're going to buy it for someone as a gift. Make the purchase and then you can give him the weapon that belongs to you. No problem as long as you know you're not knowingly providing a weapon to someone who cannot lawfully possess it.

Don't over-react just because an unknowledgeable media twisted the story.
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Key words right there...

Eta: in the context as quoted above- as a gift.
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