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Posted: 11/10/2008 8:54:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/21/2008 7:26:01 PM EDT by kap_x]
In the early hours of Friday morning (11/7), two female Georgia College students were robbed of their purses while walking on Clarke Street in front of the Old Governors Mansion by a man armed with a handgun. Neither of the students was injured.

The robber was described as a white male, approximately six feet tall with blond hair and a slim build. He was reported to be wearing a black hooded shirt and black sweat pants. He fled the scene as a passenger in a dark colored, four-door sedan which turned eastbound on West Franklin Street. The driver of the car did not leave the vehicle during the incident.


Half a block from the dorms.

I'm glad the NRA backed HB 89 over 915 so that I can't protect myself on or near campus


Will new legislation be introduced in January (due to the "one gun bill per year" agreement)?
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 8:55:54 AM EDT
Welcome to my world. We have a robbery/mugging annocement every week or so at Georgia State.

Link Posted: 11/10/2008 8:56:57 AM EDT
The rest of the email

Georgia College Public Safety officers are investigating the robbery in cooperation with the Milledgeville Police Department and the Baldwin County Sheriff?s Department.

The safety of the campus community is a top priority for Georgia College. Fortunately, no one was injured in the Friday morning robbery, but it was nonetheless a very troubling incident. Whether you are living on campus, in neighborhood housing, or are coming here to work and teach, you are urged to pay special attention to safety and security precautions.

Campus Safety Tips:

- Stay alert;
- Trust your instincts;
- Walk and park in well-lighted, well-traveled areas;
- Travel in pairs;
- Know where to find emergency call boxes;
- Plan your escape route;
- Lock your car and store valuables out of sight;
- Keep your car keys/residence keys in hand;
- Use ATMs during daylight hours;
- Report suspicious individuals and/or activity to GCSU Public Safety at 445-4400 or 445-4054.

If you find yourself in a potentially unsafe situation, you may request an escort from GCSU Public Safety.

Remember, campus safety begins with you.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 8:57:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By perry73779:
Welcome to my world. We have a robbery/mugging annocement every week or so at Georgia State.



Awesome, isn't it?
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 9:03:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By kap_x:
The rest of the email

Georgia College Public Safety officers are investigating the robbery in cooperation with the Milledgeville Police Department and the Baldwin County Sheriff?s Department.

The safety of the campus community is a top priority for Georgia College. Fortunately, no one was injured in the Friday morning robbery, but it was nonetheless a very troubling incident. Whether you are living on campus, in neighborhood housing, or are coming here to work and teach, you are urged to pay special attention to safety and security precautions.

Campus Safety Tips:

- Stay alert;
- Trust your instincts;
- Walk and park in well-lighted, well-traveled areas;
- Travel in pairs; so your friends purse will get stolen too!
- Know where to find emergency call boxes;
- Plan your escape route;
- Lock your car and store valuables out of sight;
- Keep your car keys/residence keys in hand;
- Use ATMs during daylight hours;
- Report suspicious individuals and/or activity to GCSU Public Safety at 445-4400 or 445-4054.

If you find yourself in a potentially unsafe situation, you may request an escort from GCSU Public Safety.

Remember, campus safety begins with you.



Maybe they should say, travel in groups...

Are you a member of GCO? They are fighting to change these nonsense laws!
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 11:09:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By kap_x:
Originally Posted By perry73779:
Welcome to my world. We have a robbery/mugging annocement every week or so at Georgia State.



Awesome, isn't it?



Oh ya it really is. I hope we can change the law.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 11:14:18 AM EDT
Just wear them out get your class mates to join you in requesting an escort everywhere you go. I mean everywhere. Be serious about it. Are you safe? You need to take a leak? Call for an escort.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 11:29:03 AM EDT
You should see the GA Tech crime alerts that I get... This past summer there was a group of guys who were robbing GROUPS of students. There were a couple of e-mails I got and they all had the same story:

-white car drives up to group of students
-multiple men get out brandishing weapons
-belongings of group of students is taken
-men drive off

There was also an armed carjacking at the common drop off area for one of our dorms. Some poor woman was waiting in her car for a friend to come out and two guys walked up with guns and told her to get out.

Damn, its a good thing they banned guns on campus. I don't know what would happen if criminals were allowed to have guns on a school campus....
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 11:29:25 AM EDT
I was told a couple of weeks back by a campus police officer that if he ever saw me carrying a knife not uniform (ACUs for ROTC) that he would arrest me-



Link Posted: 11/10/2008 12:54:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By littlejerry:
You should see the GA Tech crime alerts that I get... This past summer there was a group of guys who were robbing GROUPS of students. There were a couple of e-mails I got and they all had the same story:

-white car drives up to group of students
-multiple men get out brandishing weapons
-belongings of group of students is taken
-men drive off

There was also an armed carjacking at the common drop off area for one of our dorms. Some poor woman was waiting in her car for a friend to come out and two guys walked up with guns and told her to get out.

Damn, its a good thing they banned guns on campus. I don't know what would happen if criminals were allowed to have guns on a school campus....



Last week we had a robbery at gun point right off campus, so it doesnt get sent out to all the students. Fun stuff.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 1:47:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kap_x:
The rest of the email

Georgia College Public Safety officers are investigating the robbery in cooperation with the Milledgeville Police Department and the Baldwin County Sheriff?s Department.

The safety of the campus community is a top priority for Georgia College. Fortunately, no one was injured in the Friday morning robbery, but it was nonetheless a very troubling incident. Whether you are living on campus, in neighborhood housing, or are coming here to work and teach, you are urged to pay special attention to safety and security precautions.

Campus Safety Tips:

- Stay alert;
- Trust your instincts;
- Walk and park in well-lighted, well-traveled areas;
- Travel in pairs;
- Know where to find emergency call boxes;
- Plan your escape route;
- Lock your car and store valuables out of sight;
- Keep your car keys/residence keys in hand;
- Use ATMs during daylight hours;
- Report suspicious individuals and/or activity to GCSU Public Safety at 445-4400 or 445-4054.

If you find yourself in a potentially unsafe situation, you may request an escort from GCSU Public Safety.

Remember, campus safety begins with you.




If I left at night I would do this every single night and if enough people did this maybe the law could get changed. Their wouldn't be enough officers. Just my thought tho, it don't can't for much!!!!!!! I would think with all the crimes could they argue with u, I'm sure they would.

Link Posted: 11/10/2008 2:18:39 PM EDT
Several senators are making noise over the economy being more important then guns...
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 2:20:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2008 2:26:33 PM EDT by DKing]
Originally Posted By MAZDOG:[/spanIf I left at night I would do this every single night and if enough people did this maybe the law could get changed. Their wouldn't be enough officers



They'd just make you wait hours till they got around to you. You don't know how governments work very well yet...
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 2:21:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MAZDOG:
Originally Posted By kap_x:
The rest of the email

Georgia College Public Safety officers are investigating the robbery in cooperation with the Milledgeville Police Department and the Baldwin County Sheriff?s Department.

The safety of the campus community is a top priority for Georgia College. Fortunately, no one was injured in the Friday morning robbery, but it was nonetheless a very troubling incident. Whether you are living on campus, in neighborhood housing, or are coming here to work and teach, you are urged to pay special attention to safety and security precautions.

Campus Safety Tips:

- Stay alert;
- Trust your instincts;
- Walk and park in well-lighted, well-traveled areas;
- Travel in pairs;
- Know where to find emergency call boxes;
- Plan your escape route;
- Lock your car and store valuables out of sight;
- Keep your car keys/residence keys in hand;
- Use ATMs during daylight hours;
- Report suspicious individuals and/or activity to GCSU Public Safety at 445-4400 or 445-4054.

If you find yourself in a potentially unsafe situation, you may request an escort from GCSU Public Safety.

Remember, campus safety begins with you.




If I left at night I would do this every single night and if enough people did this maybe the law could get changed. Their wouldn't be enough officers. Just my thought tho, it don't can't for much!!!!!!! I would think with all the crimes could they argue with u, I'm sure they would.



Does that GCSU Public Safety officer carry a gun? If he doesn't he would probably be robbed too. Now, wouldn't that be a kick in the ass.


Vulcan94
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 2:25:20 PM EDT
Yes Campus police are armed (Glock 22, IIRC)
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 2:26:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2008 2:27:24 PM EDT by kap_x]
Originally Posted By DKing:
Several senators are making noise over the economy being more important then guns...


Pardon my misunderstanding (perhaps cause I've been up since midnight), but when you say they're making noise do you mean they're angry over the situation, or actually focusing attention on the economy instead of firearms?
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 2:29:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DKing:
Several senators are making noise over the economy being more important then guns...




They always seem to find something more important than the old 2nd.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 2:32:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DKing:
Originally Posted By MAZDOG:[/spanIf I left at night I would do this every single night and if enough people did this maybe the law could get changed. Their wouldn't be enough officers



They'd just make you wait hours till they got around to you. You don't know how governments work very well yet...



Yea, I really have all kinds of dislike for the gov. They fail at just about everything they do. The less in my life the better.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 2:32:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kap_x:
Originally Posted By DKing:
Several senators are making noise over the economy being more important then guns...


Pardon my misunderstanding (perhaps cause I've been up since midnight), but when you say they're making noise do you mean they're angry over the situation, or actually focusing attention on the economy instead of firearms?


I think there's a movement to table firearms issues until the economy is fixed, probably in the next decade at this rate.

Link Posted: 11/10/2008 3:11:27 PM EDT
Isnt there supposed to be some committee meeting on this and the public gathering parts of the gun law? I might be mistaken.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 3:14:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By perry73779:
Isnt there supposed to be some committee meeting on this and the public gathering parts of the gun law? I might be mistaken.



It was canceled in light of the current economic situation. The PG meeting is already completed.
To: Comprehensive Firearms Law Study Committee Members and Attendees

On behalf of Chairman Mitch Seabaugh


The Senate has been engaged in extensive budget work the past two months. With our state's budget challenge along with the amount of time being spent by Senators on the budget, it is prudent that we cancel the November 13 meeting.

Since we will not meet that does not mean we will not consider input from individuals. Please submit testimony in writing to my office and I will ensure it is passed along to the committee members.

We will have our last scheduled meeting as we planned. Prior to that meeting and keeping with my commitment for an open process, I will e-mail out to the mailing list a draft (yes, a draft) that will reflect the sub-committees' proposals. In that last meeting the committee will discuss, make changes and vote on legislation to be recommended to the entire Senate.

May I also take this time to pass along to everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. We all do have so much to be thankful for.

As always, call me if you have any questions.

Thanks,

mitch
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 3:22:47 PM EDT
This is a very relevant issue today. As the economy goes down, crime goes up. You'd think they'd know that.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 3:53:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DKing:
Originally Posted By kap_x:
Originally Posted By DKing:
Several senators are making noise over the economy being more important then guns...


Pardon my misunderstanding (perhaps cause I've been up since midnight), but when you say they're making noise do you mean they're angry over the situation, or actually focusing attention on the economy instead of firearms?


I think there's a movement to table firearms issues until the economy is fixed, probably in the next decade at this rate.



I wish we could get the firearms issue tabled by the federal government for the next decade.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 6:54:52 PM EDT
Does that GCSU Public Safety officer carry a gun? If he doesn't he would probably be robbed too. Now, wouldn't that be a kick in the ass.


Vulcan94


I've heard from a very good source that some of them actually have AR's in there patrol cars. I know for a fact that they have Bennelli shotguns.
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 7:06:47 PM EDT
The big O said it's ok to take from the rich and give to the poor.

Mike
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 7:21:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MikeinGA:
The big O said it's ok to take from the rich and give to the poor.

Mike


Tax the rich, feed the poor, till there aint no rich no more...
Link Posted: 11/10/2008 8:00:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kap_x:
I'm glad the NRA backed HB 89 over 915 so that I can't protect myself on or near campus


Is that part correct? If so, I gravely misunderstood the happenings when HB89 was being voted upon. I thought the NRA tried to scuttle 89 to get a parking lot law?
Link Posted: 11/11/2008 6:22:53 AM EDT
Other way around. 89 was the parking lot bill 915 was everything else. We merged 915 in when the NRA killed it.
Link Posted: 11/11/2008 12:12:30 PM EDT
6 rooms in the apt building next to mine were broken into on Halloween night. and a few weeks ago 2 females were robbed at gun point by 2 black males with uzi's (as they claimed ) at another apt complex about 200 feet away from my campus.
Link Posted: 11/11/2008 12:40:34 PM EDT
My daughter is a senior this year and we're going to visit Georgia Southern at Statesboro this weekend - does anyone have any knowlege of the crime statistics there?
Link Posted: 11/11/2008 2:50:22 PM EDT
I'd be happy with being able to carry a firearm in my car while on a campus, or to carry it concealed if I'm walking on campus grounds. I do not ever see the general assembly making it okay to open/conceal carry to a classroom, license or no license. I'd be happy to fight for that, but I really don't see it flying in Georgia.

What pisses me off is that if I need to take night classes, I have to be completely disarmed on my way there, walking around the campus at night, and then on my way back. What if I'm carjacked? What if I'm robbed while en route to my car? What if I come home and there's a robbery in progress at my place? Each of those scenarios may be unlikely to occur, but then again so is a high-speed head-on collision on I-20 and yet people still buy cars with 5-star safety ratings. The point is, I'd like to be prepared for whatever happens, and more important, I would like to be the one responsible for my own safety. Relying on campus cops, cell phones and 911 isn't a recipe for success, as all of the above stories have more or less proved.
Link Posted: 11/11/2008 2:57:08 PM EDT
Thank you for your comments. Please feel free to submit your comments
for the committee's consideration. All comments are welcomed.

mitch


mail@mitchseabaugh.com
Link Posted: 11/11/2008 2:58:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By daddy_steve:
My daughter is a senior this year and we're going to visit Georgia Southern at Statesboro this weekend - does anyone have any knowlege of the crime statistics there?


By law they have to put their crime stats on their website. Here is the link to GA southern.

http://welcome.georgiasouthern.edu/publicsafety/statistics.htm
Link Posted: 11/11/2008 4:20:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DKing:
Thank you for your comments. Please feel free to submit your comments
for the committee's consideration. All comments are welcomed.

mitch


mail@mitchseabaugh.com


I'm writing him a nice letter right now.
Link Posted: 11/11/2008 4:30:15 PM EDT
Be careful, he's very astute and can rip people to shreds. for example.


I have received your e-mail and read your editorial. I was shocked at the number of mischaracterizations, misinformation, and down right incorrect and misleading statements.

If you wish, please give me a call and I will go through item by item each incorrect item. When you call, please allow plenty of time.

Let me at least be very clear to all you sent this to that your statement of "[a] Georgia Senate firearms "study committee" will soon propose it be legal to carry handguns, either concealed or visible, into college classrooms," is incorrect. There is no proposal. If you have one, show it to me.

Our meeting on Thursday was going to allow discussion on the matter.

Sir, the last time I checked America was still a place where its citizens could petition their government. They have the right to make their case and those who don't agree have the right to challenge. The Second Amendment is still a part of the Constitution. Our jobs are to have laws that provide balance, but still follow the the Constitution. I am sworn to uphold the Constitution.

There are those who would rather silence opposing views. They want no one to consider comments of anyone other than their own. Mr. Wilburn, that is exactly what I wanted to avoid in our study committee. I have silenced no one or tried to intimidate anyone's testimony and especially, I haven't disrespected anyone for their point of view.

I have given consideration to all who wanted to participate. I have been open and honest about my position, but was willing to allow every point of view to bring their information and to make their case. I suggest if you have something to offer, make your case. But please, do so with facts and not with misleading comments.

Respectfully,

mitch




Link Posted: 11/11/2008 5:16:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By perry73779:
Originally Posted By daddy_steve:
My daughter is a senior this year and we're going to visit Georgia Southern at Statesboro this weekend - does anyone have any knowlege of the crime statistics there?


By law they have to put their crime stats on their website. Here is the link to GA southern.

http://welcome.georgiasouthern.edu/publicsafety/statistics.htm


Thanks - I really appreciate the info!!!
Link Posted: 11/12/2008 4:29:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By littlejerry:
You should see the GA Tech crime alerts that I get... This past summer there was a group of guys who were robbing GROUPS of students. There were a couple of e-mails I got and they all had the same story:

-white car drives up to group of students
-multiple men get out brandishing weapons
-belongings of group of students is taken
-men drive off

There was also an armed carjacking at the common drop off area for one of our dorms. Some poor woman was waiting in her car for a friend to come out and two guys walked up with guns and told her to get out.

Damn, its a good thing they banned guns on campus. I don't know what would happen if criminals were allowed to have guns on a school campus....





" . . . who were robbing groups of students . . . "

This should be the opening line of a concise, one-paragraph letter to Senator Seabaugh and one letter to each of the other Senators on the Committee. These students were doing everything the campus police recommended!
Link Posted: 11/12/2008 4:29:47 AM EDT
Travel in pairs; so your friends purse will get stolen too!




Link Posted: 11/12/2008 8:27:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Malum-Prohibitum:
Originally Posted By littlejerry:
You should see the GA Tech crime alerts that I get... This past summer there was a group of guys who were robbing GROUPS of students. There were a couple of e-mails I got and they all had the same story:

-white car drives up to group of students
-multiple men get out brandishing weapons
-belongings of group of students is taken
-men drive off

There was also an armed carjacking at the common drop off area for one of our dorms. Some poor woman was waiting in her car for a friend to come out and two guys walked up with guns and told her to get out.

Damn, its a good thing they banned guns on campus. I don't know what would happen if criminals were allowed to have guns on a school campus....





" . . . who were robbing groups of students . . . "

This should be the opening line of a concise, one-paragraph letter to Senator Seabaugh and one letter to each of the other Senators on the Committee. These students were doing everything the campus police recommended!


Bingo.... travel in pairs so the criminals don't have to be out mugging people all night to get their cash.

And this is GA Tech, where women are few and far between, so its not like they were preying on groups of women.

I wish the GTPD kept their crime alerts online. I just checked and it looks like they only keep the most recent 5 up.
Link Posted: 11/12/2008 4:02:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By perry73779:
Originally Posted By kap_x:
Originally Posted By perry73779:
Welcome to my world. We have a robbery/mugging annocement every week or so at Georgia State.



Awesome, isn't it?



Oh ya it really is. I hope we can change the law.



I feel for you guys.

I go to Mercer in Macon and we are smack dab in the middle of the boonies....

I think the only reason we aren't subjected to muggings is because Mercer University has it's own police force..........which confuses the heck out of me.
Link Posted: 11/12/2008 6:14:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LaRue556:
Originally Posted By perry73779:
Originally Posted By kap_x:
Originally Posted By perry73779:
Welcome to my world. We have a robbery/mugging annocement every week or so at Georgia State.



Awesome, isn't it?



Oh ya it really is. I hope we can change the law.



I feel for you guys.

I go to Mercer in Macon and we are smack dab in the middle of the boonies....

I think the only reason we aren't subjected to muggings is because Mercer University has it's own police force..........which confuses the heck out of me.



Georgia State has its only police. Some are nice guys. They do a good job of being seen on campus, but its right when you walk off campus or in some parts of campus, you get into trouble.
Link Posted: 11/12/2008 7:36:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/12/2008 7:36:53 PM EDT by engineer2001]
GT has its own police too. Most GA campuses do now (even Kennesaw does, but I don't think they carry guns).

I was offered a professor position at Mercer, and I was so excited until I went to see the campus on the weekend. I felt like I needed body armor. No thanks. If I could pick Mercer up and move it to a better location, I'd be working there now.
Link Posted: 11/12/2008 7:49:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chokker:
Does that GCSU Public Safety officer carry a gun? If he doesn't he would probably be robbed too. Now, wouldn't that be a kick in the ass.


Vulcan94


I've heard from a very good source that some of them actually have AR's in there patrol cars. I know for a fact that they have Bennelli shotguns.


Do you go to GCSU?
Link Posted: 11/14/2008 5:44:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By engineer2001:
GT has its own police too. Most GA campuses do now (even Kennesaw does, but I don't think they carry guns).

I was offered a professor position at Mercer, and I was so excited until I went to see the campus on the weekend. I felt like I needed body armor. No thanks. If I could pick Mercer up and move it to a better location, I'd be working there now.



Wow....can I get that published for our school newspaper?
Link Posted: 11/14/2008 7:52:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/14/2008 8:03:35 AM EDT by engineer2001]
Originally Posted By LaRue556:
Wow....can I get that published for our school newspaper?


I would prefer that you didn't. I may still work there one day. I liked the head of the department a lot (very nice guy), and I only ruled it out because a safer (and closer to home) job came up. I sometimes think I made the wrong decision (like today, the way things are going at work), so I may revisit the notion of working there. I was just surprised by what I saw immediately off-campus on my way there. Looked like some parts of East Point I have seen - the "get the hell out of here fast" attitude of people walking and the general disrepair and "old" look of all the structures and landmarks. It looked run down. I may have judged it improperly. Campus seemed nice, but it was too far away from home for me and not what I was expecting.

It sure would be nice if I could carry if I worked there, though.

Link Posted: 11/21/2008 7:25:45 PM EDT
Georgia College Public Safety officials and the Milledgeville Police Department today announced an arrest had been made in the late-night armed hold-up of two GCSU students two weeks ago. The suspect, 19 year old Robert William Renshaw, who listed his address as Magnolia Park Apartments, has been charged with armed robbery. A second suspect, 18 year old Rashawn Erek Abernathy, is still being sought and is believed to have fled the state.



According to Detective Robert Butler of GCSU Public Safety, Renshaw is also being charged with entering parked cars with the intention of stealing. Additional warrants are also expected to be filed. Detective Butler said the investigation is continuing.
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