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Posted: 5/19/2005 7:41:39 PM EDT
Hey fellas,

I'll be working in WA for the summer, and I am planning on bringing a pistol or two with me. What are the legal ways of carrying them around daily my vehicle? They may have to stay in the vehicle the entire time: the accomodations were refered to as a "bunk house" so keeping them secure there may not be possible.

Cheers
Link Posted: 5/19/2005 7:57:51 PM EDT
Get your WA Non-Resident CPL www.dol.wa.gov/ppu/firfaq.htm

Otherwise



RCW 9.41.050
Carrying firearms.

1)(a) Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business, a person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his or her person without a license to carry a concealed pistol.

(b) Every licensee shall have his or her concealed pistol license in his or her immediate possession at all times that he or she is required by this section to have a concealed pistol license and shall display the same upon demand to any police officer or to any other person when and if required by law to do so. Any violation of this subsection (1)(b) shall be a class 1 civil infraction under chapter 7.80 RCW and shall be punished accordingly pursuant to chapter 7.80 RCW and the infraction rules for courts of limited jurisdiction.

(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

(b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.

(3)(a) A person at least eighteen years of age who is in possession of an unloaded pistol shall not leave the unloaded pistol in a vehicle unless the unloaded pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

(b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.



You only mentioned pistols but I'll include:


RCW 77.15.460
Loaded firearm in vehicle -- Unlawful use or possession -- Penalty.

(1) A person is guilty of unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle if:

(a) The person carries, transports, conveys, possesses, or controls a rifle or shotgun in or on a motor vehicle; and

(b) The rifle or shotgun contains shells or cartridges in the magazine or chamber, or is a muzzle-loading firearm that is loaded and capped or primed.

(2) A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if the person negligently shoots a firearm from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway.

(3) Unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle or unlawful use of a loaded firearm is a misdemeanor.

(4) This section does not apply if the person:

(a) Is a law enforcement officer who is authorized to carry a firearm and is on duty within the officer's respective jurisdiction;

(b) Possesses a disabled hunter's permit as provided by RCW 77.32.237 and complies with all rules of the department concerning hunting by persons with disabilities.

(5) For purposes of this section, a firearm shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the firearm.



Link Posted: 5/19/2005 10:50:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 1:03:22 AM EDT by Moe-Ron]
Thanks for the info!

Cheers
Link Posted: 5/19/2005 11:00:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 12:29:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
I have been known to keep a loaded scoped .243 Savage Stiker in the truck with me during hunting season.




"It's coming right for us"
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:31:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Get your WA Non-Resident CPL www.dol.wa.gov/ppu/firfaq.htm




Ditto what Phil said1 It's real easy to do especially for you Orygun guys.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:21:09 AM EDT
So you can carry a shotgun or rifle, it just can't be loaded?

So is it acceptable for me to keep my AR15 under the back seat of my Grand Cherokee (out of arms reach, and I'd have to lift the seats to access it) as long as the clips were not loaded and seperated from the gun?

Same goes for the Winny 1300 12ga, I can keep it, just have to leave it unloaded and keep the shells out of it, and seperated from the gun?

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:52:59 AM EDT
Hey, Phil;

Is there a similar Oregon non resident CPL thing that you are aware of?

Thanks, Bro.
Mike
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:49:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 4:49:52 AM EDT by CavVet]

Originally Posted By HottNikkels069:
So is it acceptable for me to keep my AR15 under the back seat of my Grand Cherokee (out of arms reach, and I'd have to lift the seats to access it) as long as the clips were not loaded and seperated from the gun?





Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
RCW 77.15.460
Loaded firearm in vehicle -- Unlawful use or possession -- Penalty.

(5) For purposes of this section, a firearm shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the firearm.





Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:51:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mike_in_Seattle:
Hey, Phil;

Is there a similar Oregon non resident CPL thing that you are aware of?

Thanks, Bro.
Mike



Yes there is. However for non-residents it's may issue not shall issue. In Oregon it's a CHL.



166.291 Issuance of concealed handgun license; application; fees; liability. (1) The sheriff of a county, upon a person’s application for an Oregon concealed handgun license, upon receipt of the appropriate fees and after compliance with the procedures set out in this section, shall issue the person a concealed handgun license if the person:

(a)(A) Is a citizen of the United States; or

(B) Is a legal resident alien who can document continuous residency in the county for at least six months and has declared in writing to the Immigration and Naturalization Service the intent to acquire citizenship status and can present proof of the written declaration to the sheriff at the time of application for the license;

(b) Is at least 21 years of age;

(c) Has a principal residence in the county in which the application is made;

(d) Has no outstanding warrants for arrest;

(e) Is not free on any form of pretrial release;

(f) Demonstrates competence with a handgun by any one of the following:

(A) Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the State Department of Fish and Wildlife or a similar agency of another state if handgun safety was a component of the course;

(B) Completion of any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course if handgun safety was a component of the course;

(C) Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by law enforcement, community college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or a law enforcement agency if handgun safety was a component of the course;

(D) Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, reserve law enforcement officers or any other law enforcement officers if handgun safety was a component of the course;

(E) Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a handgun through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;

(F) Is licensed or has been licensed to carry a firearm in this state, unless the license has been revoked; or

(G) Completion of any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a firearms instructor certified by a law enforcement agency or the National Rifle Association if handgun safety was a component of the course;

(g) Has never been convicted of a felony or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a felony;

(h) Has not been convicted of a misdemeanor or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a misdemeanor within the four years prior to the application;

(i) Has not been committed to the Department of Human Services under ORS 426.130;

(j) Has not been found to be mentally ill and is not subject to an order under ORS 426.130 that the person be prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm as a result of that mental illness;

(k) Has been discharged from the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for more than four years if, while a minor, the person was found to be within the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for having committed an act that, if committed by an adult, would constitute a felony or a misdemeanor involving violence, as defined in ORS 166.470; and

(L) Is not subject to a citation issued under ORS 163.735 or an order issued under ORS 30.866, 107.700 to 107.732 or 163.738.

(2) A person who has been granted relief under ORS 166.274 or 166.293 or 18 U.S.C. 925(c) or has had the person’s record expunged under the laws of this state or equivalent laws of other jurisdictions is not subject to the disabilities in subsection (1)(g) to (k) of this section.

(3) Before the sheriff may issue a license:

(a) The application must state the applicant’s legal name, current address and telephone number, date and place of birth, hair and eye color and height and weight. The application must also list the applicant’s residence address or addresses for the previous three years. The application must contain a statement by the applicant that the applicant meets the requirements of subsection (1) of this section. The application may include the Social Security number of the applicant if the applicant voluntarily provides this number. The application must be signed by the applicant.

(b) The applicant must submit to fingerprinting and photographing by the sheriff. The sheriff shall fingerprint and photograph the applicant and shall conduct any investigation necessary to corroborate the requirements listed under subsection (1) of this section. If a nationwide criminal records check is necessary, the sheriff shall request the Department of State Police to conduct the check, including fingerprint identification, through the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Federal Bureau of Investigation shall return the fingerprint cards used to conduct the criminal records check and may not keep any record of the fingerprints. The Department of State Police shall report the results of the fingerprint-based criminal records check to the sheriff. The Department of State Police shall also furnish the sheriff with any information about the applicant that the Department of State Police may have in its possession from its central bureau of criminal identification including, but not limited to, manual or computerized criminal offender information.

(4) Application forms for concealed handgun licenses shall be supplied by the sheriff upon request. The forms shall be uniform throughout the state in substantially the following form:

______________________________________________________________________________



APPLICATION FOR LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUN



Date________

I hereby declare as follows:



I am a citizen of the United States or a legal resident alien who can document continuous residency in the county for at least six months and have declared in writing to the Immigration and Naturalization Service my intention to become a citizen and can present proof of the written declaration to the sheriff at the time of this application. I am at least 21 years of age. I have been discharged from the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for more than four years if, while a minor, I was found to be within the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for having committed an act that, if committed by an adult, would constitute a felony or a misdemeanor involving violence, as defined in ORS 166.470. I have never been convicted of a felony or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a felony in the State of Oregon or elsewhere. I have not, within the last four years, been convicted of a misdemeanor or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a misdemeanor. There are no outstanding warrants for my arrest and I am not free on any form of pretrial release. I have not been committed to the Department of Human Services under ORS 426.130, nor have I been found mentally ill and presently subject to an order prohibiting me from purchasing or possessing a firearm because of mental illness. If any of the previous conditions do apply to me, I have been granted relief or wish to petition for relief from the disability under ORS 166.274 or 166.293 or 18 U.S.C. 925(c) or have had the records expunged. I am not subject to a citation issued under ORS 163.735 or an order issued under ORS 30.866, 107.700 to 107.732 or 163.738. I understand I will be fingerprinted and photographed.



Legal name ____________

Age ______ Date of birth ________

Place of birth ____________

Social Security number ___________

(Disclosure of your Social Security account number is voluntary. Solicitation of the number is authorized under ORS 166.291. It will be used only as a means of identification.)



Proof of identification (Two pieces of current identification are required, one of which must bear a photograph of the applicant. The type of identification and the number on the identification are to be filled in by the sheriff.):

1.____________

2.____________



Height _____ Weight _____

Hair color _____ Eye color _____



Current address ________

(List residence addresses for the

past three years on the back.)



City _____ County _____ Zip _____

Phone _____



I have read the entire text of this application, and the statements therein are correct and true. (Making false statements on this application is a misdemeanor.)



____________________

(Signature of Applicant)



Character references.

___________________________

Name Address

___________________________

Name Address



Approved ___ Disapproved ___ by ___



Competence with handgun demonstrated

by _____ (to be filled in by sheriff)

Date _____ Fee Paid _____

License No. _____

______________________________________________________________________________



(5)(a) Fees for concealed handgun licenses are:

(A) $15 to the Department of State Police for conducting the fingerprint check of the applicant.

(B) $50 to the sheriff for the issuance or renewal of a concealed handgun license.

(C) $15 to the sheriff for the duplication of a license because of loss or change of address.

(b) The sheriff may enter into an agreement with the Department of Transportation to produce the concealed handgun license.

(6) No civil or criminal liability shall attach to the sheriff or any authorized representative engaged in the receipt and review of, or an investigation connected with, any application for, or in the issuance, denial or revocation of, any license under ORS 166.291 to 166.295 as a result of the lawful performance of duties under those sections.

(7) Immediately upon acceptance of an application for a concealed handgun license, the sheriff shall enter the applicant’s name into the Law Enforcement Data System indicating that the person is an applicant for a concealed handgun license or is a license holder.

(8) The county sheriff may waive the residency requirement in subsection (1)(c) of this section for a resident of a contiguous state who has a compelling business interest or other legitimate demonstrated need. [1989 c.839 §8 (166.291 to 166.293 enacted in lieu of 166.290); 1991 c.67 §38; 1993 c.732 §2; 1993 c.735 §4; 1995 c.729 §6; 1999 c.1052 §6; 2001 c.104 §56; 2003 c.166 §1]



166.292 Procedure for issuing; form of license; duration. (1) If the application for the license is approved, the sheriff shall issue and mail or otherwise deliver to the applicant at the address shown on the application, within 45 days of the application, a wallet sized license bearing the photograph of the licensee. The license must be signed by the licensee and carried whenever the licensee carries a concealed handgun.

(2) Failure of a person who carries a concealed handgun also to carry a concealed handgun license is prima facie evidence that the person does not have such a license.

(3) Licenses for concealed handguns shall be uniform throughout the state in substantially the following form:

______________________________________________________________________________



OREGON CONCEALED HANDGUN

LICENSE



County________ License Number_____

Expires________ Date of birth______

Height________ Weight________

Name_________ Address_________

Licensee’s City_____ Zip ___ Photograph

Signature_______________

Issued by_______________

Date of issue_______________

______________________________________________________________________________



(4) An Oregon concealed handgun license issued under ORS 166.291 and this section, unless revoked under ORS 166.293, is valid for a period of four years from the date on which it is issued.

(5) The sheriff shall keep a record of each license issued under ORS 166.291 and this section, or renewed pursuant to ORS 166.295.

(6) When a sheriff issues a concealed handgun license under this section, the sheriff shall provide the licensee with a list of those places where carrying concealed handguns is prohibited or restricted by state or federal law. [1989 c.839 §9 (166.291 to 166.293 enacted in lieu of 166.290); 1993 c.625 §5; 1993 c.693 §2; 1993 c.735 §5]



166.293 Denial or revocation of license; review. (1) If the application for the concealed handgun license is denied, the sheriff shall set forth in writing the reasons for the denial. The denial shall be sent to the applicant by certified mail, restricted delivery, within 45 days after the application was made. If no decision is issued within 45 days, the person may seek review under the procedures in subsection (5) of this section.

(2) Notwithstanding ORS 166.291 (1), and subject to review as provided in subsection (5) of this section, a sheriff may deny a concealed handgun license if the sheriff has reasonable grounds to believe that the applicant has been or is reasonably likely to be a danger to self or others, or to the community at large, as a result of the applicant’s mental or psychological state, as demonstrated by past pattern of behavior or participation in incidents involving unlawful violence or threats of unlawful violence.

(3)(a) Any act or condition that would prevent the issuance of a license under ORS 166.291 and 166.292 is cause for revoking a concealed handgun license.

(b) A sheriff may revoke a license by serving upon the licensee a notice of revocation. The notice must contain the grounds for the revocation and must be served either personally or by certified mail, restricted delivery. The notice and return of service shall be included in the file of the licensee. The revocation is effective upon the licensee’s receipt of the notice.

(4) Any peace officer or corrections officer may seize a concealed handgun license and return it to the issuing sheriff when the license is held by a person who has been arrested or cited for a crime that can or would otherwise disqualify the person from being issued a concealed handgun license. The issuing sheriff shall hold the license for 30 days. If the person is not charged with a crime within the 30 days, the sheriff shall return the license unless the sheriff revokes the license as provided in subsection (3) of this section.

(5) A person denied a concealed handgun license or whose license is revoked or not renewed under ORS 166.291 to 166.295 may petition the circuit court in the petitioner’s county of residence to review the denial, nonrenewal or revocation. The petition must be filed within 30 days after the receipt of the notice of denial or revocation.

(6) The judgment affirming or overturning the sheriff’s decision shall be based solely on whether the petitioner meets the criteria that are used for issuance of the license under ORS 166.291 and 166.292. Whenever the petitioner has been previously sentenced for a crime under ORS 161.610 or for a crime of violence for which the person could have received a sentence of more than 10 years, the court shall only grant relief if the court finds that relief should be granted in the interest of justice.

(7) Notwithstanding the provisions of ORS 9.320, a corporation, the state or any city, county, district or other political subdivision or public corporation in this state, without appearance by attorney, may appear as a party to an action under this section.

(8) Petitions filed under this section shall be heard and disposed of within 15 judicial days of filing or as soon as practicable thereafter.

(9) Filing fees for actions shall be as for any civil action filed in the court. If the petitioner prevails, the amount of the filing fee shall be paid by the respondent to the petitioner and may be incorporated into the court order.

(10) Initial appeals of petitions shall be heard de novo.

(11) Any party to a judgment under this section may appeal to the Court of Appeals in the same manner as for any other civil action.

(12) If the governmental entity files an appeal under this section and does not prevail, it shall be ordered to pay the attorney fees for the prevailing party. [1989 c.839 §9a (166.291 to 166.293 enacted in lieu of 166.290); 1993 c.735 §6; 1995 c.518 §3; 1995 c.658 §89; 1999 c.1052 §7; 2003 c.14 §65]



166.295 Renewal of license. (1)(a) A concealed handgun license is renewable by repeating the procedures set out in ORS 166.291 and 166.292, except for the requirement to submit fingerprints and provide character references.

(b) An otherwise expired concealed handgun license continues to be valid for up to 45 days after the licensee applies for renewal if:

(A) The licensee applies for renewal before the original license expires;

(B) The licensee has proof of the application for renewal; and

(C) The application for renewal has not been denied.

(2) If a licensee changes residence, the licensee shall report the change of address and the sheriff shall issue a new license as a duplication for a change of address. The license shall expire upon the same date as would the original. [1989 c.839 §10; 1993 c.735 §7]



Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:55:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HottNikkels069:
So you can carry a shotgun or rifle, it just can't be loaded?

So is it acceptable for me to keep my AR15 under the back seat of my Grand Cherokee (out of arms reach, and I'd have to lift the seats to access it) as long as the clips were not loaded and seperated from the gun?

Same goes for the Winny 1300 12ga, I can keep it, just have to leave it unloaded and keep the shells out of it, and seperated from the gun?




Yes you could keep a rifle or shotgun in your car if the gun were unloaded and the magazine and ammuntion were sperate from it (not in a redi-mag, stock carrier, sidesaddle, etc). YOu would have your rifle magazines loaded they just cannot be in or attached to the rifle.

However take notice that depending where in WA you will be car theft and car prowls (smash and grab) may occur at a very high rate.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 9:29:17 AM EDT
Thanks for the warning phil! I live in University Place area, we're pretty good out here compared to other places. I have a good sound system in my car. From the outside my car doesn't look like much, and I'd plan to keep them under the back seats, they fold up revealing a compartment that holds the jack and such. I tuck the handles in so you can't even tell the seats fold up, you have to dig around for the handles behind the seat.

:)

I should be fine... I don't leave my car unattended usually. I work at Starbucks so even at work I can look out the windows at my car.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 10:19:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HottNikkels069:

I should be fine... I don't leave my car unattended usually. I work at Starbucks so even at work I can look out the windows at my car.



Sweet...........I'll take a Venti Strawberries and cream frappuchino. When should I come pick it up?
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:27:27 PM EDT
Haha... stop in at 100th and Bridgeport Way starbucks in Lakewood, next to the Lakewood Mall.

I close mostly... say Arfcom and I'll hook you up ;)
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:40:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:50:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
I thought the Or CPL is valid here now?



Nope.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:55:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HottNikkels069:
Haha... stop in at 100th and Bridgeport Way starbucks in Lakewood, next to the Lakewood Mall.

I close mostly... say Arfcom and I'll hook you up ;)



Excellent, I live in UP and love me a good triple venti latte !
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:01:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:12:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
I thought the Or CPL is valid here now?



Nope.




What was the bill Locke signed?



:: sigh ::

It was SB 5083


Washington’s Firearms and Dangerous Weapons statute (RCW 9.41) was amended in 2004 to allow non-Washington residents to carry concealed weapons in Washington if they have obtained a concealed weapons permit from another state that meets certain conditions imposed by Washington’s law. Those conditions are:

1. The other state must have a reciprocal statute allowing Washington residents to carry concealed weapons in the other state if the resident has a Washington concealed pistol permit; and
2. The other state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons under twenty-one years of age; and
3. The state requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history for all persons who apply for a concealed pistol license.

If the above conditions are met, the concealed weapons permit of an out-of-state resident will be recognized in Washington as long as the permit holder does not become a resident of Washington State. Additionally, the permit holder from another state must carry the handgun in compliance with the laws of Washington State. Washington concealed pistol permits will be recognized in those states which have the reciprocal agreements with Washington. Washington residents should check the laws of the state they are traveling to, in order to comply with the concealed weapons permit law of that state.



Oregon does not meet condition number one listed above. They do not accept WAs CPL therefore WA does nto accept ORs CHL. As it's easy for OR residents to obtain a WA CPL there is no incentive for OR residents to push their state governement to accept WAs CPL.



Washington concealed pistol licenses will be recognized in the following states, and concealed weapons licenses issued in the listed states will be recognized in Washington State, so long as the handgun is carried in accordance with Washington law.

North Carolina
Mississippi
Ohio
OklahomaLouisiana
Utah
Michigan





CERTIFICATION OF ENROLLMENT
ENGROSSED SENATE BILL 5083
Chapter 148, Laws of 2004
58th Legislature
2004 Regular Session
CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT RECIPROCITY
EFFECTIVE DATE: 6/10/04
Passed by the Senate March 9, 2004
YEAS 48 NAYS 0
BRAD OWEN
President of the Senate
Passed by the House March 4, 2004
YEAS 93 NAYS 2
FRANK CHOPP
Speaker of the House of Representatives
CERTIFICATE
I,
Milto­n
H.
Doumit,
Jr.,
Secretary of the Senate of the
State
of
Washington,
do
he­reby
certify
that
the
attachedis
ENGROSSED
SENATE
BILL
5083as
passed by the Senate and the House
of Representatives on the dates
hereon set forth.
MILTON H. DOUMIT JR.
Secretary
Approved March 26, 2004.
GARY F. LOCKE
Governor of the State of Washington
FILED
March 26, 2004 - 3:19 p.m.
Secretary of State
State of Washington
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_____________________________________________
ENGROSSED SENATE BILL 5083
_____________________________________________
AS AMENDED BY THE HOUSE
Passed Legislature - 2004 Regular Session
State of Washington
58th Legislature
2003 Regular Session
By
Senators Stevens, Benton, Mulliken, Roach, Oke, Esser, Swecker
and T. Sheldon
Read first time 01/15/2003. Referred to Committee on Judiciary.
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AN ACT Relating to recognizing concealed weapon licenses issued by
2
other states; and adding a new section to chapter 9.41 RCW.
3
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:
4
NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. A new section is added to chapter 9.41 RCW
5
to read as follows:
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(1)(a) A person licensed to carry a pistol in a state the laws of
7
which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol
8
license issued under the laws of the state of Washington is authorized
9
to carry a concealed pistol in this state if:
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(i) The licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to
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persons under twenty-one years of age; and
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(ii) The licensing state requires mandatory fingerprint-based
13
background checks of criminal and mental health history for all persons
14
who apply for a concealed pistol license.
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(b) This section applies to a license holder from another state
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only while the license holder is not a resident of this state.
A
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license holder from another state must carry the handgun in compliance
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with the laws of this state.
p. 1
ESB 5083.SL
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(2) The attorney general shall periodically publish a list of
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states the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a
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concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of
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Washington and which meet the requirements of subsection (1)(a)(i) and
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(ii) of this section.
Passed by the Senate March 9, 2004.
Passed by the House March 4, 2004.
Approved by the Governor March 26, 2004.
Filed in Office of Secretary of State March 26, 2004.
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Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:13:03 PM EDT
It allowed reciprocity. The agreements have to be drawn up by the States AG's, and iirc, we dont have one with OR...yet.

We do have one with Ohio.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:17:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:25:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 3:31:21 PM EDT by CavVet]
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:30:54 PM EDT
From the AG's website



Oregon doesnt appear to have reciprocity. They wont let us play there, so they cant play here.


And the AG just has to publish an updates list periodically.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:31:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:
From the AG's website



Oregon doesnt appear to have reciprocity. They wont let us play there, so they cant play here.


And the AG just has to publish an updates list periodically.



They require a little more to get a permit there, so until the AG feels WA is to the same standard I don't see it happening. They make you take rather basic gun safety class, and run a pretty extensive mental background along with the standard criminal. Coming from getting my permit in OR first then moving here I was amazed at how easy the WA permit was to get...No class, no three trips to the Sheriffs office, no letters of reasons to get a permit... BUT the good thing is that no matter what some counties tell you , like Multnomah, you can get a nonresident permit. It isn't shall issue as a nonresident but it can be done.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:39:53 PM EDT
What I meant was they dont take anyone else's permit at all, according to packing.org. One of WA requirements is, you must have reciprocity and take our permit.

Until they start taking other peoples permits, we have zero chance of ours working there.

They have one on the table though.

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