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Link Posted: 2/11/2020 10:38:37 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 7:57:02 AM EST
And yet a binary trigger doesn't actually alter or increase the cyclic rate of fire of a rifle, nor does it even increase the achievable percentage of the cyclic rate of fire beyond what's possible with nothing but a common, well-understood, and fairly simple technique. In fact, an actual bump fire stock doesn't even meet those standards.

Either that or every aftermarket trigger in the state of florida is also illegal. Why hasn't this made it to the state supreme court yet? Why hasn't our pro-gun governor directed law enforcement to ignore this unenforceable law yet? Do we really have no recourse against poorly written and and unconstitutional laws unless and until someone actually goes to jail and gets their life upended by one?

Also, given that the FL constitution only grants the state the power to regulate the manner of bearing arms, has the legislature not exceeded its authority in passing this law?
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 7:23:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/15/2020 7:24:16 PM EST by disparcher91]
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Originally Posted By CZRider:
And yet a binary trigger doesn't actually alter or increase the cyclic rate of fire of a rifle, nor does it even increase the achievable percentage of the cyclic rate of fire beyond what's possible with nothing but a common, well-understood, and fairly simple technique. In fact, an actual bump fire stock doesn't even meet those standards.

Either that or every aftermarket trigger in the state of florida is also illegal. Why hasn't this made it to the state supreme court yet? Why hasn't our pro-gun governor directed law enforcement to ignore this unenforceable law yet? Do we really have no recourse against poorly written and and unconstitutional laws unless and until someone actually goes to jail and gets their life upended by one?

Also, given that the FL constitution only grants the state the power to regulate the manner of bearing arms, has the legislature not exceeded its authority in passing this law?
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What about Mossberg MVP bolt actions with Lightning adjustable trigger pull. Mossberg gave me options as to how fast I want to fire. What about the AR's I put together that have had, and will continue to have from the manufacturer (me), Franklin Armory Triggers? Anyone out there with a Giselle, Larue, or even PSA polished trigger?
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:00:52 AM EST
Hell, what about a lightweight bolt carriers or buffers? Different buffer springs? Maybe a gas block with a bigger port? How about putting a carbine upper on a rifle manufactured as a mid-length or dissipator? Any of those could actually increase the cyclic rate, making them more of a "bump stock" than an actual goddamn bump stock.

Then again, we make a mistake by questioning this law on its technical validity or merit. I don't think you can read the bill that gave us all these wonderful laws without concluding that the people behind it were either hopelessly incompetent or acting in bad faith. Or both. Probably both.
Link Posted: Today 3:40:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CZRider:

Then again, we make a mistake by questioning this law on its technical validity or merit. I don't think you can read the bill that gave us all these wonderful laws without concluding that the people behind it were either hopelessly incompetent or acting in bad faith. Or both. Probably both.
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I believe it was written purposely vague to cast as large a net as possible to ensnare as many people as possible. It's my understanding the individual who was responsible for pushing the legislation through had taken donations form Bloomberg's anti-gun organization.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/316434-bill-galvano-defends-2018-mike-bloomberg-funds-from-don-jr-attack
Link Posted: Today 7:15:41 AM EST
I have no doubt. And yeah, Miami_JBT has written at length about Galvano's involvement with pushing this garbage on us and taking Bloomberg money to do it. In a just world he'd be spat on in public for his treachery against our rights, but I'm sure he'll retire and go die fat and happy with no consequence for his ill-gotten gains.

The bump stock language was amended in by Sen. Linda Stewart, some awful-looking Karen from the Orlando area. The one that still stings the most is Rick Scott signing it though. He gave us the worst affront to our 2A rights that I'm aware of in Florida history, and we gave him a US Senate seat for it. I guess team sports outweigh principles for a lot of people.
Link Posted: Today 7:26:35 AM EST
You know the worst part for me on the whole Rick Scott thing though? I had waited literally six years for the chance to vote against Bill Nelson for his part in all the garbage that came up after the Newtown shooting. I was genuinely excited at the prospect of giving that man a tiny middle finger by voting for whoever ran against him. I didn't even care who - just anyone but the gun-grabbing asshole who tried to exploit a school shooting to take my rights away.

...So voting day rolls around, and I'll be damned if the "not Bill Nelson" choice wasn't the guy who actually signed a bill exploiting a school shooting to take my rights away.





I left that box blank and left in disgust.

So yeah, Rick Scott can expedite himself right to hell as far as I'm concerned. Gave me gun control and stole my chance to vote for my rights all in one fell swoop. Skeletal bag of dicks...
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