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Posted: 4/2/2006 11:21:05 AM EDT
Did some digging yesterday, and it hurt!
 I really need to get away from my desk more often.  This is in prepearation of a flower area, that Chelleshooter is going to bring to life. My reponsibilities are almost done. But, I'm wondering if anyone here has any landscaping background. I would like to cover all of the exposed dirt with some type of barrier, that will still allow water to get in to the ground, but will limit weeds/grass from growing up through it. (the mounds are built out of the sod removed, and is stacked upside down.) I'll lay gravel on top of the barrier in the walkway areas, and then I'm thinking she can cut holes where she wants to plant the various plants, which will eventually cover the entire mounds. Do they make such a stuff, or am I limited to regular plastic? |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 11:26:34 AM EDT
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I don't know exactly what it is called, I've always called it landscapers fabric. It is black fabric(available by the roll at walmart). Works just like plastic, but it lets water through.
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Posted: 4/2/2006 11:46:36 AM EDT
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 PERFECT!I'll look for it. Thanks. |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 11:51:41 AM EDT
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I think your back hurts from locking too many heavy threads.
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Posted: 4/2/2006 11:59:30 AM EDT
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 Light reading.... 
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Posted: 4/2/2006 12:53:44 PM EDT
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Typar...Google it Fucker.
Oh and suck it up Sally. |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 1:19:21 PM EDT
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Check out Sam's Club and Costco too. It's a seasonal product for them but if they have it it'll be much cheaper than you'll find elsewhere, at least that is what I found a few years ago when I put down a lot of around my house. Your place is going to look very good when you are done.
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Posted: 4/2/2006 2:22:05 PM EDT
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I'm building a garden, not a Super Good Cents home.  (I've got plenty of Tyvek and 6 mil plastic in the shop)
Cocktail hour is imminent.
Thanks, it's something to do while I wait for house-painting weather. So how well has the stuff you used done for blocking weeds? |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 2:27:57 PM EDT
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Like I said...Google it, Fucker! I am already two ahead of you slacker. |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 2:32:01 PM EDT
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Wow, ....learn something every day! This is probably a good time to let you know that you're delivering me a couple yards of 5/8- this week. 
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Posted: 4/2/2006 3:59:23 PM EDT
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I've been a professional landscaper for 12 years and can tell you that all you will be doing is causing yourself problems for more money buy installing fabric/plastic. Weeds germinate on the soil you place on top of the soil on the stuff. What you should have done is used Round-up on the sod first, ensuring a good root-zone kill (and easier digging) before flopping it down. Use a pre-emergent herbicide like Pren or allery between the new flowers to help with weed control or let it sit a couple weeks and repeatedly nuke it with Round-up before doing anything to it.
The only use I've found for landscaping fabric is erosion control. |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 4:23:31 PM EDT
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So does the landscapers fabric allow weeds to grow through it? If I were to put it under the gravel, will it stop the weeds from coming up through it?
I'm a round-up spraying fool, but I've yet to see it do me any good past a few months at best. (I go through about 3 gallons of the ultra concentrate per year in my yard) Looking for a better solution.... |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 6:58:55 PM EDT
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CONCRETE. IT'S FOREVER! 
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Posted: 4/2/2006 8:03:24 PM EDT
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Yep. And even then you have to pressure wash it and keep it up. If it's an area with foot traffic, keep on using Round-up. Other areas hit with Surflan or Ronstar as they don't tend to leach like Casaron. Pre-em tye herbicides create a chemical barrier on the surface of the soil to kill the germinating weeds as they come up. Always read your labels, too. The reason the landscape fabric people and Dow and Monsanto keep raking in the $ and I have a steady job is that there is never a permanent solution to weeds. There is no such thing as eradication, only population control. The degree of that control is dictated by how much you are willing to spend. BTW, nice color on your grass 
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Posted: 4/2/2006 8:22:13 PM EDT
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It's gonna be cool, parking on that at the next rainout.
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Posted: 4/2/2006 8:28:53 PM EDT
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Who's buried under there?
 Um... nevermind. Heh. I don't know what I was thinking. Nice looking, er, flower bed! |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 9:10:42 PM EDT
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Looks nice! I would stay the hell away from that black underlayment for your landscaped areas and use the grey professional grade stuff. I have used it for years and it works far far better. Costco has it this time of year for a far better price than any of the hardware stores do.
I had an area in my last homes back yard that was 3 times the size of the area in those pics that I used it on and then barked over and it worked very well. Good luck with the flower thing, I hate having anything that close to my house/deck/wood shed etc. Have fun weeding!
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Posted: 4/2/2006 9:19:56 PM EDT
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Screw Round-Up. Go for the gusto!   Groundclear = Triox = Total Vegetation Killer |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 9:31:17 PM EDT
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What color is the grass in your world?
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Posted: 4/2/2006 10:03:00 PM EDT
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Used to work with a guy that was red-green color blind. He told me grass looked pink to him. |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 10:26:41 PM EDT
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Xmas must be pretty fucked up for him. |
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Posted: 4/2/2006 11:31:33 PM EDT
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That grass is gonna look good with some 4x4 tire marks on it...............
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Posted: 4/3/2006 12:32:14 AM EDT
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I have dibs on the front bedroom! |
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Posted: 4/3/2006 6:58:13 AM EDT
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Lets get one thing perfectly clear... I DON'T PULL WEEDS! There's lots of shit I DON"T do, and pulling weeds is right up towards the top of the list. Chelleshooter is probably already sorry she even asked for a place to grow flowers, since I've been such an ass about how if it turns in to a weed patch, there will likely be an accident with an open container of round-up, or maybe a smallish Exxon-Valdez-type event within the area. Herbal genocide has always been one of my favorite games to play. Thanks for the brutal honesty gator. Your comment on the pressure washing lets me know we think alike.  "Better living through chemicals". I get it. (Gibby, it's all yours!) |
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Posted: 4/3/2006 7:03:37 AM EDT
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There were two things that worked well that I remember.
Agent Orange and Napalm. |
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Posted: 4/3/2006 7:47:46 AM EDT
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Thats what I was thinking...  
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Posted: 4/3/2006 8:59:14 AM EDT
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It's worked really well. I had some beds and one side of my house that I wanted lower the maintenance on. I cleared them out and hit them with triox. Put down the weed barrier fabric and covered it with large beauty bark. It will have been 3 summers ago it was doen and it's holding up well and very few weeds come up through. I get some at the edges where one bed meets the walkway, but not very often. |
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Posted: 4/3/2006 3:55:44 PM EDT
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2 words
Brown Dog He'll get r dun |
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Posted: 4/3/2006 5:02:16 PM EDT
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Grass color is a serious issue in my line of work. Maybe it's 'cause I work for T**Green
That yard looks better than the ones with the pretty lime colorred moss or the even prettier yellow flowers. Triox is the shit but tends to move a bit in the soil and wouldn't be too good around the grass or flowers. |
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