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Posted: 10/24/2015 10:48:24 AM EDT
Seems like no modifications have any type of written guarantee that it makes them 100% compliant. But anyhow, what have you done and why? I'm looking for the most reasonable (besides moving down south) way to go? Thanks
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 11:39:43 AM EDT
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I went with "Thorsden" stocks and put the spare parts away for the future if needed. I just think of my AR's as so awesome that the government has mandated a handicap on them so that other guns don't feel so bad. Looks are not a big issue and what is affected by the government handicap can be somewhat overcome by training.
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 1:05:58 PM EDT
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What's an AR?  I don't own any guns.  Too scary.
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 1:59:56 PM EDT
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Way to go?.......Move South.....
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 2:42:48 PM EDT
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Do not comply.  Live happily ever after.
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 2:57:08 PM EDT
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That is my plan when I can get my s__t together.



As for absolutely 100% guaranteed modification to make it legal?  Remove the gas tube.  The law does not apply to non-semi auto firearms.



 
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 3:16:23 PM EDT
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That is my plan when I can get my s__t together.

As for absolutely 100% guaranteed modification to make it legal?  Remove the gas tube.  The law does not apply to non-semi auto firearms.
 
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That is my plan when I can get my s__t together.

As for absolutely 100% guaranteed modification to make it legal?  Remove the gas tube.  The law does not apply to non-semi auto firearms.
 


Remove the gas tube, pin the mag, and remove all features.

Then move to Vermont.
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 4:04:12 PM EDT
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I buy sharp things now.
Turtles.
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 7:49:16 PM EDT
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I beat a homeless man to death with mine. Him and his dog.

I didn't want to, but that damn pistol grip made me do it!!!!
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 7:51:15 PM EDT
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that's the answer right there
Link Posted: 10/24/2015 10:28:46 PM EDT
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Old pic of the ugly stick:





I also used the Spur & finger hook trigger guard on a couple.



I shall not speak of the others.  
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 4:33:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2015 8:52:33 AM EDT
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Can that be welded back together?  
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 9:41:07 AM EDT
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Weld 10 round mag into lower.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 9:42:43 AM EDT
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This thread needs more

FUAC
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 11:02:40 AM EDT
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Old pic of the ugly stick:
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I also used the Spur & finger hook trigger guard on a couple.

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FUAC
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 11:41:20 AM EDT
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I was looking at the armaglock. But no guaranteed approval yet. If so it seems like an easy fix.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 11:48:11 AM EDT
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Featureless with a thordsen stock if you care about mag changes, or a fixed mag version where you build it from a stripped lower and install a bullet button with it filled in with epoxy. Counting down until someone bursts in here Koolaid guy style saying that none of this is legal.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 12:09:33 PM EDT
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Is it possible to actually weld the magazine without creating a functional nightmare...as opposed to welding the release closed...

 
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 9:37:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/26/2015 1:59:19 AM EDT
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There is no good way. The AR is dead in NY

Ares SCR, while not an AR, is the best option.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 7:05:58 AM EDT
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I would trust my freedom to an epoxied bullet button.  

There are enough thordsen stocked stags in the gunshops that I would say that's safe.


I've never shot one but the ares looks interesting
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Featureless with a thordsen stock if you care about mag changes, or a fixed mag version where you build it from a stripped lower and install a bullet button with it filled in with epoxy. Counting down until someone bursts in here Koolaid guy style saying that none of this is legal.
I would trust my freedom to an epoxied bullet button.  

There are enough thordsen stocked stags in the gunshops that I would say that's safe.


I've never shot one but the ares looks interesting

I haven't shot one, but I've handled a couple. If you're used to traditional stocked rifles, I'd go that way, it feels comfortable to shoulder.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 8:20:17 AM EDT
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Enjoy it until the next stroke of cumhole's (or insert name of the next tyrant) pen, when all Semi-auto's are banned.

Anyway, here is a fair write up on the Ares.  Not exactly a ringing endorsement.



Link Posted: 10/26/2015 8:36:05 AM EDT
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Very dated review.  Sounds like it has the original very heavy, very bad trigger, which Ares has since replaced (for free on those who already had them, too.)  The new one is not a match trigger, but it is Mil-Spec-like.  It also says that there seems to be a plug for a bolt-catch, which Ares released a long time ago.  Yes, it's silly that you have to buy and install it separately, but it does exist.  Also, the stock is replaceable by Remington 1100 (12 ga) stocks, so you can add wood or any other aftermarket stock, if you don't like the original.  

I want an SCR, but I'm waiting for the lower-only option to come down in price, since I don't want the upper and you can't sell it for enough to make up the difference.  At $499 for what is in essence a billet lower, lower parts kit, buffer system, stock and bolt carrier, it's not ridiculous, but a little more than I want to pay now.  If they hit the $400 range on Black Friday, I'll probably pull the trigger.  However, I'll also use my own compliant stock to keep a true AR lower.

Link Posted: 10/26/2015 8:41:42 AM EDT
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The monster grip sucks also..

The ugly stick is best option.. you can actually shoot it with out it feeling awkward. The only issue is safety is hard to reach, but if you get ambi- safety it works much better.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 9:46:14 AM EDT
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DO NOT COMPLY!!!
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 9:51:50 AM EDT
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I am liking the spur grip and the Patrick Henry trigger guard
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 10:41:12 AM EDT
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What about the NY-10 lower?  They are non detachable mag lowers but still allows for the evil features and somewhat ease of loading compared to popping the top.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 11:26:57 AM EDT
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I went the fixed mag route.
You know, it's SAFE.  I put myself and the guys sitting next to me at the range at risk every time I have to top load a fixed magazine in a rifle that is not intended for fixed mag top loading.
Thank you Cuomo for making me safe.  You cunt.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 5:57:21 PM EDT
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What's the best way to go for the fixed mag route?
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 7:03:45 PM EDT
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The bullet button. Installs and adjusts just like the baby killer button, but has a hole that allows access to the mag catch stud. The button was designed to not depress but a bullit tip, allen key, etc could be used to push the spring-loaded mag catch stud and drop the mag. I believe california still allows its use but we are forced to fill our holes with a hardening epoxy. If and/or when one can escape this slavery and move somewhere that doesn't shit on what our forefathers bled for, the bullets button can cheaply be replaced without permanent modification to the rest of the rifle. Good luck.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 7:55:40 PM EDT
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I'd rather have the Ugly Stick and have a functional rifle.

Bullet buttons, welded mags, whatever........what's the point? Having a "cool" looking gun that is functionally useless unless at the range makes no sense to me.

ETA FUAC
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 9:18:20 PM EDT
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Bullet buttons, welded mags, whatever........what's the point? Having a "cool" looking gun that is functionally useless unless at the range makes no sense to me.

ETA FUAC
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Non detach mag lowers offer great range practice with a full feature AR.  

I still can't believe it's come to this and this is what it's come to
Link Posted: 10/27/2015 6:41:03 AM EDT
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I'd rather have the Ugly Stick and have a functional rifle.



Bullet buttons, welded mags, whatever........what's the point? Having a "cool" looking gun that is functionally useless unless at the range makes no sense to me.



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These sound like the words of someone with only one gun. You dont have any range toys?
Link Posted: 10/27/2015 8:26:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/27/2015 8:40:09 AM EDT
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The monster grip sucks also..

The ugly stick is best option.. you can actually shoot it with out it feeling awkward. The only issue is safety is hard to reach, but if you get ambi- safety it works much better.
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That s not too bad I never use the safety anyway.  I stick with the original safeties my brain and finger.
Link Posted: 10/28/2015 3:52:40 PM EDT
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"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.....FUAC!!!!
Link Posted: 10/28/2015 4:28:26 PM EDT
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These sound like the words of someone with only one gun. You dont have any range toys?
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I'd rather have the Ugly Stick and have a functional rifle.

Bullet buttons, welded mags, whatever........what's the point? Having a "cool" looking gun that is functionally useless unless at the range makes no sense to me.

ETA FUAC
These sound like the words of someone with only one gun. You dont have any range toys?

Huh, not sure where you get that from, but whatever. <shrug shoulders>

I just don't see the point of an AR with a pinned magazine that requires you to pop it open and load the mag from the top. Sure, it "looks cooler" than a Thorsden stocked AR, but functionally it's clumsy at best, and IMO nothing more than a range "toy."

To each their own.

FUAC
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 1:13:28 AM EDT
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"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.....FUAC!!!!

This.
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 7:13:19 AM EDT
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While at the range I've witnessed a few guys with those Armaglocks and when it comes to having a malfunction like double feeds it's a pain in the ass to clear. I went with the stag model 3 NY neutered version. We do need more FUAC and take back our state.
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 9:38:50 AM EDT
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SKS
Mini14/30
Ares SCR
Saiga
Benelli MR1 (if you can find one and want to pay)
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 11:42:25 AM EDT
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To all the people running around with their "compliant" rifles... just wait. Microstamping, "smart guns," ammo bans, registration, taxation, etc. It is coming to NY unless the SC affirms the Second Amendment as a FIRST CLASS right.

If the libs can get a blatantly unconstitutional law like unsafe upheld, there is basically no law they can't pass and have the courts rubber stamp.
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 12:48:45 PM EDT
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To all the people running around with their "compliant" rifles... just wait. Microstamping, "smart guns," ammo bans, registration, taxation, etc. It is coming to NY unless the SC affirms the Second Amendment as a FIRST CLASS right.

If the libs can get a blatantly unconstitutional law like unsafe upheld, there is basically no law they can't pass and have the courts rubber stamp.
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Semi-auto / detachable magazine (of any capacity) ban coming next.  No sense complying now, we've all been down that road before.  Save your money for a lawyer instead.





Link Posted: 10/31/2015 1:12:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/31/2015 4:13:40 PM EDT
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Here in Calif. we are not far behind you guys. It is important that you be compliant with the law while you are out with your rifle either practicing or passing on tradition to your kids. It is also important that you be prepared for that worst case situation if it were to happen. There are numerous ways to be legit. Some better than others. It is not going to do any of us or your families any good if they are feeding you 3 squares a day on a rubber tray. Craig
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 4:15:04 PM EDT
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Here in Calif. we are not far behind you guys. It is important that you be compliant with the law while you are out with your rifle either practicing or passing on tradition to your kids. It is also important that you be prepared for that worst case situation if it were to happen. There are numerous ways to be legit. Some better than others. It is not going to do any of us or your families any good if they are feeding you 3 squares a day on a rubber tray. Craig
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 6:08:30 PM EDT
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Ill just add the M1 garand/m1 carbine to that list..

The saiga in 223 is pretty decent gun.. i was very surprised how it grouped at 100 yards even for an AK.
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 6:10:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/31/2015 6:41:54 PM EDT
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I'd like an SU-16 style rifle that isn't a plastic Keltec piece of shit.  IE, aluminum or stamped steel receiver and either a captive pin or button latch system to fold the lower for storage.
Link Posted: 10/31/2015 8:10:54 PM EDT
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Top loader.  I plan on a 308 someday.  


Link Posted: 11/1/2015 5:41:32 AM EDT
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So we should what? Quit shooting? Get arrested?  
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To all the people running around with their "compliant" rifles... just wait. Microstamping, "smart guns," ammo bans, registration, taxation, etc. It is coming to NY unless the SC affirms the Second Amendment as a FIRST CLASS right.

If the libs can get a blatantly unconstitutional law like unsafe upheld, there is basically no law they can't pass and have the courts rubber stamp.
So we should what? Quit shooting? Get arrested?  

Resist.  Compliance will only get more of your rights taken.  Do you honestly think they are going to stop?  Just wait until somebody shoots up a mall with a "compliant" AR.  You don't have to comply with an unconstitutional law: http://www.activistpost.com/2010/12/no-one-is-bound-to-obey.html

Dangerous times we are living indeed.  There is no easy answer but compliance will get us nowhere.
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