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Posted: 12/19/2005 10:30:39 AM EDT
Hey guy's, I need some help. My fiancee and I are thinking of movingto texas after we get married this spring, and escape the Socialist Communist hole of Krapifornia! Where can we move where there arn't a lot of Liberal Krapifornia people in Texas, She want to look at Plano, but I hear it's little Kalifornia. I don't want to leave Krapifornia just to move to little Krapifornia. I need to live somewhere that is conservative, loves guns and hunting, and doesn't try to run my life. We want to stay somehere that is close to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area for job reasons. I've looked at Alvarado to the south. We are looking for at least a acre+. Any ideas? Thanks for the help. And don't wory, If I move to Texas, I won't be bring Krapifornia with me.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 12:07:15 PM EDT
Decide if you want Dallas area or Fort Worth first.

There's about 100 different cities in Dallas and Tarrant Counties, so narrow it down a bit and maybe I can help. However, if you want affordable acreage, you probably need to be looking on the Tarrent County side of the Metroplex.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 12:17:11 PM EDT
Weatherford and thereabouts is nice for the Ft Worth side of things. If you want to work in the Dallas area, you might be able to move somewhere in northern Collin County that is still semi-rural, or to the east of Dallas.

Now if you want to live on an acre in a city, well Plano's alright though it's about as close to what you're used to in CA as TX gets I think, lots of yuppies and soccer moms. Less liberal than CA, but still less conservative than most of TX. McKinney is getting that way but it's not so bad yet, Frisco is nice but it's kind of a 'little Plano'. That's pretty much just how it is in the suburbs these days though.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 12:19:30 PM EDT
Were looking for somewhere more rural. I would love to get 5 acres are more.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 12:39:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 2:51:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2005 2:51:46 PM EDT by jrosto]
Your origonal idea of Alvarado is a good one also. Less expensive and open than a lot of other areas. I live in Arlington and drive there often to shoot at the range.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:15:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2005 3:18:10 PM EDT by plarkinjr]
Urban Sprawl....

Frisco used to be "out in the 'docks" but its growing fast.
The Colony used to be kinda upscale, but not so much any more... but its near Lake Lewisville. I know several folks up near Little Elm or Aubrey. These are north of Dallas.

If you can handle the drive to Dallas for work, Canton and Royse City are nice.

I'm more "urban" (actually suburban) in Carrollton. One of my criteria for buying a home was 'stay out of Dallas County'. I'm just north of the county line (in Denton county) and as a result, insurance and taxes are lower....

But, ANYWHERE in Texas is gonna be better than PRK (People's Republik of Kalifornia). Come on down!
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 5:14:11 PM EDT
Thanks for all the info so far guys! Don't mind the drive as I drive 60 miles one way right now
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 7:01:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By caduckgunner:
Thanks for all the info so far guys! Don't mind the drive as I drive 60 miles one way right now



aaahhh now that you are married it will depend on where your wife works and wants to live.

If she has to drive far then that will influence your decision.

Definately stay out of Dallas county.

I live in Rockwall right on a lake Ray Hubbord. So if you are used to water as I am its nice and better then all concrete ride and no sceenery.

What type of work do you and your wife do, have you found any employers yet ?

Just post here and you will get all kinds of replies.

Good luck and welcome to the area.

John
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 7:09:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 4:44:49 AM EDT
Texas has a variety of landscapes that you will need to consider. If you love the forest then I recommend East Texas (Google-Big Thicket NP). SE Texas it is an outdoorsman's paradise with rivers, creeks, lakes, and coastal salt water fishing. Abundant hunting opportunities and depending on what type of work you are into a half an hours drive will put you back at home in the privacy of the woods.

The area cities with employment potential in SE Texas that might interest you would be Lufkin/Nacogdoches, Beaumont, Houston, but there are many small towns that may interest you depending on what you want and/or do.

Here's a state web site for job opportunities:

http://www.twc.state.tx.us/

Good luck and we welcome you to the great state of Texas
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:00:30 PM EDT
If the DFW area stuff doesn't work out for whatever reason, look at Lubbock (or anywhere else in the Panhandle and South Plains areas).
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 7:37:27 PM EDT
It's gonna depend on where you end up working. Driving across DFW is a bitch.

We moved here about 6 months ago from Utah, love it, but am very thankful that I waited for a job on the Ft Worth side. We ended up buying a house in Azle, there are some nice places near here that are 1-5 acres that I'm sure would be very attractive price wise to someone coming from CA.

Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:19:23 PM EDT
I work in Saginaw just north of Fort Worth. We have subdivisions going up everywhere, most with this zero lot line bullshit.
If you want to stay west of Dallas- always a good idea, Wise county is a good choice. There are a lot of nice 5 and 10 acre lots IN Haslet, and a lot of friends have 20+ acres around Rhome and Decatur.
Figure anything between Fort Worth and Dallas to be the suburbs, and traffic ain't getting better. The North Loop 820 around NRH is like LBJ was 10 years ago.
Jim
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 12:15:25 AM EDT
If I could live anywhere I wanted in Texas I would live in the FT Davis Mountains or somewhere just as remote.

If you have to work for a living, that limits you right there. Childress is nice if you can get by working as a prison guard....

I work in IT so I live near Houston.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:36:11 AM EDT
Come live in East Texas, close enough to Dallas if you want to go, far enough away to not have to deal with all the crap!
What kind of work you looking for?
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:39:05 AM EDT
My fiancee is a school teacher, so we will move where ever she can get a job. I can do anything. I've been in the wholesale distribution industry for over 8 years, so I figure I can get a job in distribution.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:07:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By caduckgunner:
My fiancee is a school teacher, so we will move where ever she can get a job. I can do anything. I've been in the wholesale distribution industry for over 8 years, so I figure I can get a job in distribution.



If she gets her TX teaching cert, she will have a job pretty much anywhere she pleases, as Texas has a severe teaching shortage. Just be aware the pay is mediocre at best and the teachers retirement system sucks. (I'm sure she is aware of all this, so I'm done raining on the parade)
I'm not really sure where there are GOOD teaching jobs available. In this area you have Tyler and Longview schools that probably pay the most, and depending on what she teaches, might have some students that aren't morons. However, the cost of living here is CHEAP, especially since you are from CA, and you could live out in the country on your land and not have a long drive into town.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:25:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 1:26:18 PM EDT by caduckgunner]

Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Originally Posted By caduckgunner:
My fiancee is a school teacher, so we will move where ever she can get a job. I can do anything. I've been in the wholesale distribution industry for over 8 years, so I figure I can get a job in distribution.



[quote Just be aware the pay is mediocre at best and the teachers retirement system sucks. (I'm sure she is aware of all this, so I'm done raining on the parade)
quote]

I don't think it can be worse than in kalifukya......... try making less that 40k a year as a teacher and trying to live here.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:27:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By caduckgunner:

Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Originally Posted By caduckgunner:
My fiancee is a school teacher, so we will move where ever she can get a job. I can do anything. I've been in the wholesale distribution industry for over 8 years, so I figure I can get a job in distribution.



[quote Just be aware the pay is mediocre at best and the teachers retirement system sucks. (I'm sure she is aware of all this, so I'm done raining on the parade)
quote]

I don't think it can be worse than in kalifukya......... try making less that 40k a year as a teacher and trying to live here.


DAMN!
Yes, she will probably make about the same here then with a much lower cost of living.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:17:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ZootTX:

Originally Posted By caduckgunner:

Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Originally Posted By caduckgunner:
My fiancee is a school teacher, so we will move where ever she can get a job. I can do anything. I've been in the wholesale distribution industry for over 8 years, so I figure I can get a job in distribution.


[quote Just be aware the pay is mediocre at best and the teachers retirement system sucks. (I'm sure she is aware of all this, so I'm done raining on the parade)
I don't think it can be worse than in kalifukya......... try making less that 40k a year as a teacher and trying to live here.


DAMN!
Yes, she will probably make about the same here then with a much lower cost of living.


Pretty much the same out here in West Texas, too. Look into Lubbock. Do a Google search for "cost of living" and "adjustment" (maybe throw "MSN" into the mix, too; they've got one of the best free ones). Actually compare the CoL stuff of these different cities (won't be exact, but will give you an idea).
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 3:12:05 PM EDT
Have her check into the Eagle Mountain-Saginaw ISD. We have had a lot of new schools built recently including a new High School that is currently limited to freshmen and sophmores with the upper classes filling from the current student body.
In the Saginaw area we also have a lot of new warehouses- huge warehouses going up.
Houses are priced pretty low, especially compared to dallas. In one developement they have 3 model homes with prices out front. A 1500 sq.ft. house for $102,000.00 sound good?
We are close to everything but on the edge of the heavy traffic.
Email me if you want more info to save space here.
Jim
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:19:27 PM EDT
The place I work posted a job for a "Material Handler" today, IM me for details. It's in NW Ft Worth, very near Saginaw.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:22:27 PM EDT
Wise county is a good choice. Anything north of 35W on 287 is a good place to look.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:24:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lordtrader:
Well, I am an ex CA. Living in Plano. Its like living in Orange County without the beach. I like it. But if you are looking for more rural. Try Weatherford west of Ft Worth. Or maybe further west like Mingus. Close enough to the city.



LT,
You back in the great State of Texas?

I have to get up there and buy you dinner some time!

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:28:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Come live in East Texas, close enough to Dallas if you want to go, far enough away to not have to deal with all the crap!
What kind of work you looking for?



East Texas is the best!

My High School alum, the Tatum Eagles, just won the State Championship in 3-A Div. 2 football!

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 6:00:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Originally Posted By lordtrader:
Well, I am an ex CA. Living in Plano. Its like living in Orange County without the beach. I like it. But if you are looking for more rural. Try Weatherford west of Ft Worth. Or maybe further west like Mingus. Close enough to the city.


LT,
You back in the great State of Texas?

I have to get up there and buy you dinner some time!

BigDozer66


Wow; can't believe I didn't pick up on that. Mebbe Katrina "blew him back" to Texas?
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 7:44:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Come live in East Texas, close enough to Dallas if you want to go, far enough away to not have to deal with all the crap!
What kind of work you looking for?



East Texas is the best!

My High School alum, the Tatum Eagles, just won the State Championship in 3-A Div. 2 football!

BigDozer66



I'm about 20 miles N of there, and I go down there on occasion as the EMS service I work for covers that area.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 10:49:19 AM EDT
Austin is little Cali not Plano. I lived out in Plano a few years back and its a very nice community. If I moved from Houston back to Dallas I would move to Plano or the Las Colinas areas.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 2:47:45 PM EDT
Man, we sound like a bunch of carny barkers--"Hey, come on in here. You'll like what you see!"
Jim
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 6:35:57 PM EDT
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"Step right up to da Sout' Plainsa Texas. Get-cha wide owp'n spaces rah't he-ah!"
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Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:01:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ZootTX:

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Come live in East Texas, close enough to Dallas if you want to go, far enough away to not have to deal with all the crap!
What kind of work you looking for?



East Texas is the best!

My High School alum, the Tatum Eagles, just won the State Championship in 3-A Div. 2 football!

BigDozer66



I'm about 20 miles N of there, and I go down there on occasion as the EMS service I work for covers that area.



Are you in Marshall or maybe Jefferson?

If I get up that way I holler at you.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:02:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wise_jake:

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Originally Posted By lordtrader:
Well, I am an ex CA. Living in Plano. Its like living in Orange County without the beach. I like it. But if you are looking for more rural. Try Weatherford west of Ft Worth. Or maybe further west like Mingus. Close enough to the city.


LT,
You back in the great State of Texas?

I have to get up there and buy you dinner some time!

BigDozer66


Wow; can't believe I didn't pick up on that. Mebbe Katrina "blew him back" to Texas?



Well the last I heard his company was in Shreveport but they were planning on going back to Lafayette? IIRC?
Well Lafayette was overwhelmed with refugees (like 500K or so?) so they may have decided to move to DFW.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:46:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

<snip>
Are you in Marshall or maybe Jefferson?

If I get up that way I holler at you.

BigDozer66



One of the most beautiful gals I've ever known was from Marshall....... the red-headed hotness was unbearable (in a good way)!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 8:15:07 AM EDT
The air quality in DFW area has become very bad over the last few years and the traffic is horrible. DFW area would not be my first pick.

The only reason we still live here is that I can't find a job like mine in another part of the state except Houston and I don't want to live in Houston.

I prefer Austin or San Antonio. Both are closer to Gulf Coast and hunting in E. Texas if you like that. Austin is very laid back with lots of parks and a lot of really good resturants. Lots of fun stuff in San Antonio as well.

Fredricksburg is very nice and is growing (west of Austin/San Antonio).

If you want to be in the boonies, West Texas in nice (San Angelo) and East Texas is very pretty also (Lufkin). Just depends on if you like cactus or big trees.

I'm a proud native Texan but I would also consider Arizona if I were looking for a state to relocate to. Very gun-friendly and lots of public land to play on. If I ever win the lotto i'm going to spend the winters in Scottsdale and go to Scottsdale gun club every day.

Anyway...

I'm hoping to retire close to the TX Gulf Coast or maybe Fredricksburg area. Still many years down the road however. By then I bet we'll have grandkids up here in DFW area and wife won't want to move. Go figure!

Kudos to you for getting out of Cali.

Be safe and welcome to Texas,

Flyer
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 8:24:44 AM EDT
Hey EMSflyer: I guess we can agree to disagree about San Angelo being "West Texas"..............
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 12:00:20 PM EDT
We can call San Angelo "near-west" anyway.... Or, West TX "light"....

Did'nt want to send the boy to El Paso.

However, Alpine or Ft Stockton is kinda nice.

I fly over it all from time to time.

I prefer the coast because I like to be near the water but after the hurricanes I'm not so sure....

Be safe,

Flyer
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 12:37:25 PM EDT
WAXAHACHIE it is 30 min south of Dallas, been here about 2 months and really like it. Hey and my wife does the relestate stuff.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:31:15 PM EDT
Duly noted, man, duly noted!

I've actually given up on "placing" Lubbock, after being here eight years. It's a "transitional area" between the Panhandle and "West Texas". The "South Plains" gets used a lot, but folks actually tend to use 'em all interchangeably.

Originally from the Corpus area. It's South Texas, but the folks from the [Rio Grande] Valley sometimes refer to themselves as South Texas. We're also "Gulf Coast," so it's a pretty dynamic, argumentative thing. Now that I think about it, perfect for Texas and Texans!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:41:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 5:42:51 AM EDT by Gorilla]
my 2 cents... Ft Worth is more conservative than Dallas as far as its politics go, although either will be FAR, FAR right of Kali. Ft Worth tends to be a cutoff point between the woodsy East texas and the more plains + scrub West Texas. If you want piney woods and green, lean East; if you don't mind a bit more arid, lean West.

I live in Tarrant county, very accessible to Ft. Worth and the mid cities, less so to Dallas. There is a serious amount of Defense Industry in Ft Worth, such as Lockheed Martin and Bell Helicopter. Ft. Worth is pro-military, God, guns, and apple pie. You will like this area!

Acreage within easy driving to downtown will be pricey, but that's relative. You can buy 3200 square feet on an acre with trees in a nice suburb for $220K. Compared to Kali, well... it's cheap!

Best of all, you can get all the goodies like machine guns and silencers. With real magazines. And pistol grips! Woo hoo!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:32:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By EMSflyer:
The air quality in DFW area has become very bad over the last few years and the traffic is horrible. DFW area would not be my first pick.

The only reason we still live here is that I can't find a job like mine in another part of the state except Houston and I don't want to live in Houston.

I prefer Austin or San Antonio. Both are closer to Gulf Coast and hunting in E. Texas if you like that. Austin is very laid back with lots of parks and a lot of really good resturants. Lots of fun stuff in San Antonio as well.

Fredricksburg is very nice and is growing (west of Austin/San Antonio).

If you want to be in the boonies, West Texas in nice (San Angelo) and East Texas is very pretty also (Lufkin). Just depends on if you like cactus or big trees.

I'm a proud native Texan but I would also consider Arizona if I were looking for a state to relocate to. Very gun-friendly and lots of public land to play on. If I ever win the lotto i'm going to spend the winters in Scottsdale and go to Scottsdale gun club every day.

Anyway...

I'm hoping to retire close to the TX Gulf Coast or maybe Fredricksburg area. Still many years down the road however. By then I bet we'll have grandkids up here in DFW area and wife won't want to move. Go figure!

Kudos to you for getting out of Cali.

Be safe and welcome to Texas,

Flyer



#1 there is a BIG difference between the traffic on the Dallas side and the Fort Worth side of the metromess.

#2 Austin and San Antonio traffic is as bad or worse than DFW.

#3 Austin is way to liberal

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 6:18:25 PM EDT
Thanks for the info everyone. Right now we are waiting to see where she can get hired on as a teacher. We are hopping to make the move sometime this summer.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 9:47:25 PM EDT
Okay . Never heard a word about Houston area. Not the city itself but surrounding areas like Conroe to the north or Lake Jackson to the SW or Alvin or anywhere in Galveston County or Brazoria County ?
Wife and I are headed that way in February 06 to hunt a new home and a place to put our sailboat for crusing the Carribean. Since southern California is short on slips for boats and the area south of Houston has several, low priced ,,plus excellent quality marinas were leaving Arizona to be closer to our in the water second home. Using the Mutiple Listing Sites in that area searching the available homes for sale has swayed us to the east Texas market.
Homes prices there are very low as compared to Arizona properties. $500,000 here in Arizona is about 175,000 to 200,000 in that area.....Anyone have a solid answer to that? Yes it rains there, yes it is humid there, damn it rained more in one day there last summer while there on vacation than we get in Yuma in a whole year ! But, the prices are right and it is so close to the Gulf ! Plus it is as free as Arizona for my AR's and Glock's and a Sig of course. (need a door stop ya know)
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:53:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:56:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 7:58:49 AM EDT by lordtrader]
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 9:17:01 AM EDT
i live in grand prairie which is south west of dallas. i work near DFW airport and its only a 30 min drive (all side streets). Reason i love living in Grand Prairie / Arlington area is that everything is around you. I can get to dallas and fort worth in equal time. I am suprised no one has said anything about Mansfield. It is a growing area south of arlington. Joe pool lake is close too if you like water.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 10:07:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 10:09:46 AM EDT by caduckgunner]
[Quote..That's all relative. Traffic in Dallas is a piece of cake compared to CA. My folks live in a small town called Stockton, CA. They have worse traffic than Dallas. Air quality is nothing. Its cleaner compared to Los Angeles. I have yet to hear about a smog alert here in Dallas. hippie.gif quote]

I lived in Stockton until I was 21 years old. 300,000 people isn't a small town!here
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