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Hey. City people need to live somewhere, might as well be in the city....
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A person that qualifies for section 8 housing usually doesn't qualify for a $385,000 mortgage. At least I have never heard of one. Usually, any old SCHMO buys the house with the understanding that he will rent out to only section 8 tenants. The tenant moves into the 4(?) bedroom house with their 8 person family and pays about ten percent of the rent, while the government pays the landlord the remaining 90%.
I don't know about WA, but in NewJersey every town has to allocate a certain amount of space to low-income housing. The township may pay neighboring townships huge amounts of money to take that obligation, so the high falooting towns don't have to deal with "that element". |
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Is that New Holly?
Seattle househole median income=$42,364 Source 80% of median=$33891 That's close enough to wear I am and my ability to pay for a house/mortgage/taxes/Association fees maxes out in the $100,000 price range. |
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Well, at least they won't have to go far when they're looking for their missing cars, tires, stereos and TVs. Nice narrow streets and no driveways either, that's gonna be fun when the eight member families bring their five cars with them. Great planning, Seattle. |
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+ a whole big shitload |
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Polygon, yipes. I'm not surprised they are using every cost cutting method in the book, they invented most of them.....
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Must be nice that welfare rats can have better homes than most of us that work our asses off.
I wonder if a FoodStamp package comes with the deal? |
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I don't know if you can call that nice. You have a pretty nice spred, and I had rather live in a place like yours than the shit hole that CavVet posted. |
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If someone pays $480,000.00 for a house that close to your neighbors has goto to be crazy. I could buy hundreds of acres and put a nice house on it for that price.
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Well thank you sir for the kind word. I like my land, It is the Doublewide I dont care much about. It will be going away in the next year or so, and something more stout put on the property, But unlike those people in Seattle, We dont get any handouts from the Govt., Just raped at tax time. |
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But not in Peirce or MLK counties.
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I have 5 acres, not even one mile away from me, the new houseing going in is on 1/4 acre lots, high 300's to mid 400's.. and it is going fast!, about 300 homes total in a 5 mile area. |
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I moved out of the city six years ago. Our cul de sac wasn't as tight as the pics, of course but tight enuff. But even in skagit co the houses are popping up like dandilions. My ol granpa wouldn't recognize Sedro-Woolley. High density housing and traffic, inevitable. I don't know how you kids are gonna deal with it let alone pay for it. ms
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Yeh! Keep the bstrds out of my back yard!!!!! I don't need to pay higher prop taxes!! |
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A person that qualifies for section 8 housing usually doesn't qualify for a $385,000 mortgage. At least I have never heard of one. Usually, any old SCHMO buys the house with the understanding that he will rent out to only section 8 tenants. The tenant moves into the 4(?) bedroom house with their 8 person family and pays about ten percent of the rent, while the government pays the landlord the remaining 90%. AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY OUR GOVERNMENT IS SCREWED UP. You can work your ass off and get taxed the more you make, or you can sit on your fat lazy welfare sucking ass and have it GIVEN to you for free!In the meantime we the taxpayers are paying for the "landlord" and most likely the welfare clown. |
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Number in household (30% of median) 1 $16,350 2 $18,700 3 $21,050 4 $23,350 5 $25,250 6 $27,100 7 $29,000 8 $30,850 If New Holly is being run the same as other SHA projects are then in general, tenants pay at least 30 percent – but not more than 40 percent – of their monthly adjusted income for rent and utilities. (Tenants may pay more than 40 percent of their income after the first year.) The program does not place limits on the amount of rent a participating owner can charge, but rents must be comparable to similar units in the same area.
High(low)lights from the 1994 SHAs executive summary
BTW this may be the Rainier Vista development and not New Holly, but they are similar to each other. CavVets initial point and statement of Wait until welfare meets the Volvo. Its going to be a long mortgage. may be true. It will be interesting to see how the 400 families with the $385K-$480K houses get along with their 800 neighbors who don't make enough to get a $60k home. Will class envy run rampant? |
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CavVets initial point and statement of Wait until welfare meets the Volvo. Its going to be a long mortgage. may be true. It will be interesting to see how the 400 families with the $385K-$480K houses get along with their 800 neighbors who don't make enough to get a $60k home. Will class envy run rampant? I'm surprised that they allow gun ownership with this mix. |
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SHA (Seattle Housing Authority) would have a hard time trying to ban them
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I think the 400 mortgage paying families are going to see their equity evaporate. Best bet is to stuff 25 illegals in the house at $250/mo each, otherwise you're gonna lose your ass. That's what the subsidized immigrant families will be doing. The streets are going to be clogged with cars. You'll have to park five blocks from your house. |
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If they were in palistine, the place would be called a refuge camp, but us ingenious Americans call them $$$housing developements$$$. Maybe it will keep more city people in the city. I'll stick the my little trailerpark in the woodz for a while longer, it shouldn't be to long tell we move to the our new place. DD |
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Where is your back yard?
This all sounds just so F**ked up!!!! Why do we have to pay other peoples way it just pisses me off. I have been homeless before (twice once because employers did not pay me two months in a row & I have lost two homes) and I have made my way back up the ladder. I did not get any fucking help from no body. Yet if they (immigrants or lazy people) don't work or cannot live within the means of what they make, the Gov steps in and takes from the middle & rich and gives it to them. I think this is a shitty way to do bussiness unless its for the totally disabled. I don't give a fuck if these people are on the street & starve to death. I was always told growing up if you don't work you don't eat. On a side note I'm not totally hartless sometimes I do give food or a little money to the poor/homeless on the street corners. Unless you have stood there you don't know what it is like to get all the looks from people in cars. But I think the GOV needs to step out and quit making lazy asses. Rant off for now and if I stepped on your toes, oh well. Just my two cents. |
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Not my toes. I'm ok with the .gov offering a helping hand to pull people up by their bootstraps and help them get to their feet, I draw the line at having to stand there and hold them up on their feet for eternity. IMHO that's where the welfare system is broken, and I don;t know how to fix it, but killing it off isn't fixing it either.
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I will add insult to injury. This is not New Holly and this is not Polygon, although I worked that shithiole too. This is is another liberal tax and spend pork project.
I didnt know anything in New Holly wasnt Section 8. It did have more English speakers working the project fwiw, but the Polygon houses were even shittier built. The residents I see in the two are new, non native immigrants in the one I pictured above, and stereotypical American welfare recipients in New Holly. Saddest part is, if you want to see good building, you have to see a private house, with a small contractor only in particular parts of the city.. And then there are those who are dumb enough to hire the Tongans to do their concert work. When something is too cheap to be real, it aint real, and your dumb ass just got what you paid for. Never, but never, but never ever ever let Tongans do concert work for you, or anyone you know. oh my goodness. |
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These arent built by the .gov for investers to steal our money, these are built by a developer. Some are being sold to the owners to live in, others are section 8, that just happen to be adjacent. Totally different from what you are describing. The yuppie lady vacuming runner rugs at 10 AM when I took this picture, just out of camera on my right, had her Volvo in front, and her hubbys golf shoes were on the porch. |
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The Volvo owners better get used to diversification. HUD has a new mandate decreeing that the low income housing population be mixed through the census tracks. I won't say which Housing Authority I work for, but I will add that about 20% of all housing residents are just trying to get through tough times and move along while the rest are leeches that should to be forcibly escorted out of the country. If the Fed locked our doors tomorrow and said they were shutting down HUD forever I'd be happily unemployed. The worst ones are the Middle Eastern immigrants who believe that the USA is the land of the free. Free money, free home, free power/water/sewer, free food, free to do whatever you please and scream to the ACLU if anyone says anything different. If taxpayers really knew the horseshit that goes on they would burn all public housing down to the ground.
One last point, the one I work for says tenants cannot posses firearms on the property, period. How's that for infringing on a Constitutional right? |
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I'm torn on this; I don't have a problem helping anyone get on their feet and I think it's the right role of government to have programs in place for people to fall back on when times are tough. It's what the people that use the programs actually do with themselves that is what makes the difference. Unfortunately most don't seem to do shit.
Those homes aren't worth 100k in my book but the land they sit on is at a premium. It is somewhat ridiculous that the section 8 home is nicer than what most can afford working their ass off. Watch what happens to those homes though in ten years. I used to drive past Shalishan in Tacoma every day and not once did I see anyone doing a single thing to make their lives better there. The neighborhood looked like shit when I was a kid and it looks like shit now. Of course they are all being rebuilt also just like the pictures that were posted. What kind of incentive is there to get OFF the dole when the house you can afford isn't as nice as the house the .gub is subsidizing for your family? This IMO is the problem with the fed in general. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and they obviously have too much tax money if urban renewal projects are at this scope now in my book. Was it FDR's new deal that federalized things and they just never recovered to the states taking care of themselves or what? I just don't understand where we gave the fed so much control over our money that without their funding the states can't take care of things like this themselves. Maybe Im being shortsighted? I have a close relative that resides in section 8 housing. They recently rebuilt the apartments where he is at and they are nice but modest places. He isn't anywhere capable of taking care of himself due to health issues but he also brought it on himself in a way by living one hell of a selfish life. Now we're paying for him too. He is a Vet so that helps as he did serve in time of war but his family is completely off the hook as is he for his living his life the way he did. I see him and can't help but feel some amount of empathy in a way, he is a lonely old man and he's dying, trying to undo a lifetime of bad choices. It's a true testament to me every time I think of all the things that make life really worthwhile. It also makes me grateful as hell that I don't live that way. |
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No Fukin Shit...... Lazy bastards always complaning for more |
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