As this thread more aptly describes what the following shows, here are some targets shot recently:
This target is one I regularly use, the large square provides a good reference for holding the 4 MOA dot of the Aimpoints relatively centered and steady:
Rifle: Parts is Parts M4, CMMG 1/7 twist 11.5" chrome-lined barrel w/ 5" FS, ARMS #38 Swan-sleeve & Aimpoint ML2/M68, DPMS lower, tuned stock trigger. Fired from a steady benchrested position.
Range: 100 yards
Conditions: 30 degrees, wind gusty 10-15 (for the following 11.5" + 5" FS upper targets)
Extreme spread = 2.45" for the 5 rounds of Black Hills 77 grn. SMK
This rifle was zeroed at 10 meters due to the shorter barrel and expected used of 0-100 yards. The rifle was zeroed using Winchester Q3131A which is the next target shown.....
Zero Range: 10 meters = 33 feet
Here are 5 rounds of Federal Gold Medal 69 grn. SMKs at the same 10 meter distance:
Note: Point of aim was center of small target
Extreme spread = 0.75" for the 5 rounds of Fed GM 69grn. SMK
Here are 5 rounds of Black Hills 77grn. SMKs at the same 10 meter distance:
Note: Point of aim is center of small black dot (abit hard to see even at the close range, red-dot covered the dot)
Extreme spread = 0.62" for 5 rounds of BH 77grn. SMK
Here is an additional target shot several months ago using the LMT M4 14.5" w/ perm G6, 1/7 twist, KAC RAS II equipped upper, Aimpoint ML2/M68 on hump on Bushmaster lower w/ RRA 2-stage trigger. Fired from steady benchrested position.
Range: 100 yards
Conditions: 78 degrees, wind light, less than 5 mph
Note: This was not the standard target I prefer with the red-dot scopes, as the 4 MOA completely covers the target and Point of Aim for these 5 rounds was 6 o'clock on the black circle.
Extreme spread: 2.85" for 5 rounds of BH 77grn. SMK
These rifles are constant source of ridicule and humor from my dad, who tends to prefer the one-hole 5 shot groups he regularly posts at 100 yards using a variety of scoped bolt action rifles. He has a bit of difficulty understanding that if I desire one-hole groups I simply have to change to the CR6724 Leupold scoped AR and my handloads and has very little appreciation for the CQB aspects of red-dot sighted M4 rifles. Quite understandable from someone who makes short work of crows at ranges up to 600 yards on a sometimes daily basis.
Hopefully folks here with appreciate the fact that when using 11.5", 14.5" and 16" M4 rifles, Aimpoint or EOTech scoped rifles, they cannot possibly hope to compete with properly scoped rifles for accuracy/group size. MSTN and others have proven how accurate the shorter barreled rifle can be when equipped with a more precision optic and there is no doubt in my mind that either of the two uppers involved above can shoot sub-MOA groups with the rounds they like, PROPERLY scoped, but then that is not the point of the question here.
These rifles are NOT set-up for accuracy, (although I think the groups above do show they have that potential) they are set-up for practical CQB type shooting and in that role I am very happy with their performance.
Perhaps some of ya will find this useful.
Mike