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Posted: 7/20/2010 11:09:46 AM EST
I live in Houston, and I want to get all of my firearms put in a trust.  I want to do this for NFA toys etc.  Who did your trust?  How much did it cost?  Where they good or not etc?
Link Posted: 7/20/2010 11:14:49 AM EST
[#1]
Sean Cody

He has done most of the Houston Crew.

Come out to a Tuesday get together and ask questions
Link Posted: 7/20/2010 11:17:06 AM EST
[#2]
Sean Cody
www.HoustonAttorney.org
www.TexasNFATrust.com
www.AtomicLabRat.com
Link Posted: 7/20/2010 11:20:28 AM EST
[#3]
The Sean BRD is referring to....

This is from a recent thread.  http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=8&t=418000

There will be some that will tell you to buy Quicken Willmaker and write your own trust.  I went that route, after speaking to Sean at a match and hearing him discuss items with his clients, I now wish that I had consulted an attorney that had experience in creating trusts concerning NFA items.



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Link Posted: 7/20/2010 2:09:06 PM EST
[#4]
I'm going to call Sean tomorrow and speak with him, I'll post my experience later tomorrow.
Link Posted: 7/20/2010 2:20:12 PM EST
[#5]
I used Sean . . . . . .


I was only in town for one day a Friday.    After several phone call's, e-mails and text messages (these were due to my questions not Sean) Sean had the ready and I stopped by the Houston Armory to complete/sign the trust and buy a can.     When I left I had my trust, all the BATF paperwork complete and ready to mail off.

450.00 may sound like a lot at first, but you are talking about one on one time with a lawyer that knows what he is talking about in this area.   I felt/knew it was well worth it in the end.
Link Posted: 7/20/2010 3:18:52 PM EST
[#6]
google is your friend.  There are plenty of free trust docs. online to pick from.

Its not that hard to make one with the help of the ones online.

450 can buy an extra .22lr can. :)

he charges 450 for a small chat. (edit: heard he charges 300 for it for AFcom members) He already has the draft and plugs in certain statements to fit your needs.  Well, thats how the other lawyer thats really famous does it.  He connects to a state lawyer. they split the 500 dollar fee, the state lawyer modifies that guys original draft.

If we lived in a State that requires a lot of legal issues with trust.  I would recommend a lawyer, but we live in Texas.
Link Posted: 7/20/2010 5:24:24 PM EST
[#7]
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I used Sean . . . . . .


I was only in town for one day a Friday.    After several phone call's, e-mails and text messages (these were due to my questions not Sean) Sean had the ready and I stopped by the Houston Armory to complete/sign the trust and buy a can.     When I left I had my trust, all the BATF paperwork complete and ready to mail off.

450.00 may sound like a lot at first, but you are talking about one on one time with a lawyer that knows what he is talking about in this area.   I felt/knew it was well worth it in the end.

Considering what it will be used for, I'd be reluctant to go the do-it-yourself route.

Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:13:48 AM EST
[#8]
I just got off the phone with Sean, pleasant guy to speak with, answered ever question I asked. Would highly recommend his services to any one looking to set up a trust.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:15:31 AM EST
[#9]
If anyone cares I could scan every page of my Trust and approved Form 1 with my personals redacted ...
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:16:01 AM EST
[#10]



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I used Sean . . . . . .





I was only in town for one day a Friday.    After several phone call's, e-mails and text messages (these were due to my questions not Sean) Sean had the ready and I stopped by the Houston Armory to complete/sign the trust and buy a can.     When I left I had my trust, all the BATF paperwork complete and ready to mail off.



450.00 may sound like a lot at first, but you are talking about one on one time with a lawyer that knows what he is talking about in this area.   I felt/knew it was well worth it in the end.


Considering what it will be used for, I'd be reluctant to go the do-it-yourself route.



Why?





 
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 11:21:22 AM EST
[#11]





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I used Sean . . . . . .
I was only in town for one day a Friday.    After several phone call's, e-mails and text messages (these were due to my questions not Sean) Sean had the ready and I stopped by the Houston Armory to complete/sign the trust and buy a can.     When I left I had my trust, all the BATF paperwork complete and ready to mail off.





450.00 may sound like a lot at first, but you are talking about one on one time with a lawyer that knows what he is talking about in this area.   I felt/knew it was well worth it in the end.



Considering what it will be used for, I'd be reluctant to go the do-it-yourself route.





Why?





 



Because if a trust is later found to be insufficient or defective in some way, you are now in possession of an unregistered NFA Title II firearm.


 
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 11:33:56 AM EST
[#12]



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I used Sean . . . . . .





I was only in town for one day a Friday.    After several phone call's, e-mails and text messages (these were due to my questions not Sean) Sean had the ready and I stopped by the Houston Armory to complete/sign the trust and buy a can.     When I left I had my trust, all the BATF paperwork complete and ready to mail off.



450.00 may sound like a lot at first, but you are talking about one on one time with a lawyer that knows what he is talking about in this area.   I felt/knew it was well worth it in the end.


Considering what it will be used for, I'd be reluctant to go the do-it-yourself route.



Why?



 


Because if a trust is later found to be insufficient or defective in some way, you are now in possession of an unregistered NFA Title II firearm.  


And if it is found to be insufficient when authored by a lawyer it makes what difference?  Make sense people.



 
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 1:22:11 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/21/2010 1:31:26 PM EST
[#14]
$450? I was thinking it would cost more than that.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 2:04:19 PM EST
[#15]
All this to exercise a "right"???
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 4:40:23 PM EST
[#16]
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All this to exercise a "right"???


Lets be happy that we can make a Trust and allow more then one (legal) person to use the NFA item. :)
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 4:41:41 PM EST
[#17]
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I live in Houston, and I want to get all of my firearms put in a trust.  I want to do this for NFA toys etc.  Who did your trust?  How much did it cost?  Where they good or not etc?


Only put the NFA items in your trust.  Make another trust for the other issues.  KISS for NFA trust.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 4:49:40 PM EST
[#18]
Quoted:
Sean Cody
www.HoustonAttorney.org
www.TexasNFATrust.com
www.AtomicLabRat.com


Link Posted: 7/21/2010 5:27:36 PM EST
[#19]
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I used Sean . . . . . .


I was only in town for one day a Friday.    After several phone call's, e-mails and text messages (these were due to my questions not Sean) Sean had the ready and I stopped by the Houston Armory to complete/sign the trust and buy a can.     When I left I had my trust, all the BATF paperwork complete and ready to mail off.

450.00 may sound like a lot at first, but you are talking about one on one time with a lawyer that knows what he is talking about in this area.   I felt/knew it was well worth it in the end.

Considering what it will be used for, I'd be reluctant to go the do-it-yourself route.

Why?

 

Because if a trust is later found to be insufficient or defective in some way, you are now in possession of an unregistered NFA Title II firearm.  


And that has happened how many times????  Data, not your brothers, sisters boyfriend heard from a buddy that a guy at the tastee freeze knew a guy that.....

How many times has the ATF ruled a trust invalid and done anything?

Link Posted: 7/21/2010 5:32:10 PM EST
[#20]



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I used Sean . . . . . .





I was only in town for one day a Friday.    After several phone call's, e-mails and text messages (these were due to my questions not Sean) Sean had the ready and I stopped by the Houston Armory to complete/sign the trust and buy a can.     When I left I had my trust, all the BATF paperwork complete and ready to mail off.



450.00 may sound like a lot at first, but you are talking about one on one time with a lawyer that knows what he is talking about in this area.   I felt/knew it was well worth it in the end.


Considering what it will be used for, I'd be reluctant to go the do-it-yourself route.



Why?



 


Because if a trust is later found to be insufficient or defective in some way, you are now in possession of an unregistered NFA Title II firearm.  




And that has happened how many times????  Data, not your brothers, sisters boyfriend heard from a buddy that a guy at the tastee freeze knew a guy that.....



How many times has the ATF ruled a trust invalid and done anything?





No no no, get the fuck out of here.  Facts are not allowed.



 
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 6:42:01 PM EST
[#21]
ya I let the"don't use your own trust or you will rot in jail" crowd get in my head, so I took a referrel from an arfcomer who said he knew a guy who was a lawyer and sot who did a great job for $250. So I get the final product and it is nothing more than a photocopy of a Quicken Trust with the names pluged in .
Link Posted: 7/22/2010 5:28:42 AM EST
[#22]
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I used Sean . . . . . .


I was only in town for one day a Friday.    After several phone call's, e-mails and text messages (these were due to my questions not Sean) Sean had the ready and I stopped by the Houston Armory to complete/sign the trust and buy a can.     When I left I had my trust, all the BATF paperwork complete and ready to mail off.

450.00 may sound like a lot at first, but you are talking about one on one time with a lawyer that knows what he is talking about in this area.   I felt/knew it was well worth it in the end.

Considering what it will be used for, I'd be reluctant to go the do-it-yourself route.

Why?

 

Because if a trust is later found to be insufficient or defective in some way, you are now in possession of an unregistered NFA Title II firearm.  

And if it is found to be insufficient when authored by a lawyer it makes what difference?  Make sense people.
 


Maybe so you can sue the lawyer for drafting an invalid trust for NFA and recover any costs you incur if it does happen ?
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