WW2 British Military pouch? Can you guys ID this for me?

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - WW2 British Military pouch? Can you guys ID this for me?

Posted: 2/21/2006 12:48:05 PM EDT

I picked this pouch up a few years ago at a local army surplus store. I believe the tag had Britian as the country or origin.

Was any pouch like this used by your servicemen in WW2? If not anyone know the true country of origin?

Thanks
Shawn

Posted: 2/21/2006 1:22:00 PM EDT

[#1]

Well, I know nothing about the style or if it is british BUT Marsden is a very common name in the noth of England, it's rarely seen further south than the middle of the country and there are a lot of Marsdens just below Scotland so from the name, I'd guess it was British, and either Durham Light Infantry or Scots Guards.

Posted: 2/21/2006 2:04:39 PM EDT

[#2]

Crows foot middle left on the second pic with 136 under it

Posted: 2/21/2006 2:26:22 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Crows foot middle left on the second pic with 136 under it

Crows foot or an arrow. Depending on how you look at it. An inspection mark of some sorts? Mean anything?

Thanks,
Shawn

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:24:32 PM EDT

[#4]

I don't know what it is but by searching for "Light II pouch" I found this:

www.omahas.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=18_62&products_id=259&osCsid=5227ef6e72cf42345ced1e6138006347

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:28:25 PM EDT

[#5]

Pretty much every piece of UK Military equipment I've used or seen has the "crows foot" on it.
Even the old aluminium mess tins I use have them on. Dated 1960's with crows foot.

I think they originated from the War Office. I'll get some more info for you.

One of the other guys here may remember the origin.

Taffy

Posted: 2/21/2006 4:30:19 PM EDT

[#6]

It's British 44 Pattern kit. That was issued from 1945 right up to the early 70's.

It's got a 1/44 date stamp and it's in green, light canvas so it's tropical issue. It looks to be a shoulder strap magazine/grenade pouch, but I'll have to look it up to be sure.

ANdy

Posted: 2/21/2006 6:27:59 PM EDT

[#7]

Thanks for the info gentlemen. Yes any and all information will be greatly appreciated. I like knowing the history behind country of origin gear like this.

Thanks,
Shawn

Posted: 2/23/2006 12:46:45 PM EDT

[#8]

What you have there is a case for a Light service respirator.

This was introduced in 1943 to replace the old-style respirator with the filter can attached via a tube. The "Light" pattern was more modern looking, with the filter can on the left cheek.

It can be worn either by attaching to the P37 webbing belt with the brass hooks on the back, or with the shoulder strap.

Hope that helps!

Posted: 2/23/2006 10:00:11 PM EDT

[#9]

+1 on the respirator pouch, its not 44 pattern thats the wrong material, at first I though it looked a little small for the respirator but I think it is due to the shoulder strap respirator pouches are normally the only ones with a shoulder strap so you can remove it from webbing I have seen this on examples from WWII to PLCE days.

I found an example in a reference to Airbourne forces 1937 pattern webbing

Posted: 2/23/2006 11:11:29 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
+1 on the respirator pouch, its not 44 pattern thats the wrong material, at first I though it looked a little small for the respirator but I think it is due to the shoulder strap respirator pouches are normally the only ones with a shoulder strap so you can remove it from webbing I have seen this on examples from WWII to PLCE days.

I found an example in a reference to Airbourne forces 1937 pattern webbing

www.airbornerecce.com/dtroop/images/gear.jpg

37 Pattern webbing was in use up to the late 50''s and some of it well into the 60's. '44 Pattern' was updated kit designed during the war to go with 37 Pattern kit.

Fairly standard fighting order during the 'End of Empire' in the 60's was a 58 belt and an assortment of mix and match pouches hung off it instead of a pack.

ANdy

Posted: 2/24/2006 7:14:03 AM EDT

[#11]

37 Pattern was still the official webbing of the Army Cadet Force right into the 90s and so TA units to the 70s

Posted: 2/24/2006 5:45:06 PM EDT

[#12]

chuckles @ the webbing experts....

Taffy

Posted: 2/26/2006 3:12:41 PM EDT

[#13]

Hi,

vito where are these pictures had been taken ?

bye
Oli

Posted: 2/26/2006 3:46:29 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Hi,

vito where are these pictures had been taken ?

bye
Oli

Aden in the mid 60's.

ANdy

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - WW2 British Military pouch? Can you guys ID this for me?

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