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Posted: 8/12/2005 8:33:29 PM EDT
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+2 MCTLTD Only two places I do business with locally
+2 Mesa Gun Shop Only two places I do business with locally |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:31:11 PM EDT
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Ameetec
American Spirit Arms Apache Junction Imports Arizona Expert Arms Arizona Sportsman (Mesa ) Arizona Tactical (Tempe) +1 for their nice gear selection and pleasant staff Bear Arms (Scottsdale) Bear Mountain (Mesa) Big Bore Cavalry Arms Corporation Dimondback Tactical Glockmeister -1 He has a sign on the door barring people from carrying in his store. WTF?!  Guns Etc. Guns Plus (Surprise) J+G J-Mart (Arizona Sportsman Tucson) Lone Wolf Guns MCLTD Mesa Gun Shop Murphy's Pistol Parlor Prebans Randalls Robar Company Scottsdale Gun Club -1 for their Abercrombie & Fitch staff and highest prices in the valley. Without Terry, the place has gone to the dogs. Scottsdale Gun Center +2 for having the best prices in the valley on Glocks Shooters World +1 for their nice staff Shooting Star Wal-mart -2 because of their unnecessary background checks on long guns |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 10:09:09 PM EDT
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Ameetec
American Spirit Arms Apache Junction Imports Arizona Expert Arms Arizona Sportsman (Mesa ) Arizona Tactical (Tempe) Bear Arms (Scottsdale) Bear Mountain (Mesa) Big Bore Cavalry Arms Corporation Dimondback Tactical Glockmeister Guns Etc. Guns Plus (Surprise) J+G J-Mart (Arizona Sportsman Tucson) Lone Wolf Guns +2 Friendly staff including hot chick  , and good selection/pricesMCLTD Mesa Gun Shop Murphy's Pistol Parlor Prebans Randalls(Glendale?)+1 Good staff, blazer .22lr  Robar Company Scottsdale Gun Club +1 coolest selection, helpful(sometimes too helpful) staff Scottsdale Gun Center Shooters World(Phoenix)+2 Friendly staff and good selection Shooting Star(Tempe) +1 Friendly staff, not 2 since they dont have good selection Wal-mart |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 4:53:15 AM EDT
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Ameetec - Never been
American Spirit Arms - HUGE -2 (if anyone doesn't know what they did to me you are new here) Apache Junction Imports - never been Arizona Expert Arms - never been Arizona Sportsman (Mesa ) - never been Arizona Tactical (Tempe) - never been Bear Arms (Scottsdale) - +1 Bear Mountain (Mesa) - never been Big Bore - +2 (does my C3 transfers and my shooting buddy) Cavalry Arms Corporation - I know these guys (and like them) and have been for a party but I have never been there as a customer so I can't rate the store. My bad. Dimondback Tactical - never been Glockmeister - never been Guns Etc. - never been Guns Plus (Surprise) - never been J+G - +0 they are OK for buying bulk. Not real friendly but I didn't try either. J-Mart (Arizona Sportsman Tucson) - never been Lone Wolf Guns - +0 went once and it was OK MCLTD - never been Mesa Gun Shop - never been Murphy's - never been Pistol Parlor - never been Prebans - never been Randalls - never been Robar Company - never been Scottsdale Gun Club - +1. This is actually a fantastic sho. I know the owners well having shopped since they first opened as Armory. They always treat me right. Have done some C3 transfers. Everything they have ever suggested or sold me was top quality. Only price prevents them from being a +2. But, I would send a new shooter there rather than some other stores. They might spend more but they are less likely to buy a mistake. Scottsdale Gun Center - never been (where is this?) Shooters World - +0 Shooting Star - never been Wal-mart - never been for GUN stuff. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 5:29:25 AM EDT
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Arizona Tactical Firearms, Tempe +2
MCTLTD +2 azski |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 9:48:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/13/2005 10:12:01 AM EDT
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Ameetec +2 for parts availability
American Spirit Arms No comment Apache Junction Imports +1 for oddball stuff and a good source of AK stuff Arizona Expert Arms +2 best builder in the State (perhaps USA) Arizona Sportsman (Mesa ) -1 Overpriced Arizona Tactical (Tempe) 0 Bear Arms (Scottsdale) +2 good people, selection, prices Bear Mountain (Mesa) -1 Used to be OK till they went fishing Big Bore 0 Cavalry Arms Corporation +2 great product, and true promoters of the sport Dimondback Tactical 0 Glockmeister 0 Guns Etc. +1 Guns Plus (Surprise) 0 J+G -1, they used to be great, but now mediocre and PITA w/paperwork J-Mart (Arizona Sportsman Tucson) 0 Lone Wolf Guns 0 MCLTD 0 Mesa Gun Shop 0 Murphy's 0 Pistol Parlor +2 great selection including a expanding line of AR gear Prebans 0 Randalls 0 Robar Company 0 Scottsdale Gun Club +1 good glock prices Scottsdale Gun Center 0 Shooters World 0 Shooting Star 0 Wal-mart 0 just neutral on them, Winchester white box saves them from a -1. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 11:55:39 AM EDT
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huh?
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Posted: 8/13/2005 12:15:00 PM EDT
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Ameetec +1
Arizona Sportsman (Mesa ) -1 Bear Mountain (Mesa) -1 Glockmeister +2 (great service and lowest ffl's in mesa - lowest price i've seen on glocks) Pistol Parlor +1 Wal-mart -0 |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 1:35:15 PM EDT
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Wally World requires a background check on long guns - exceding the federal guidelines. I'm sure they're doing it for our own good...
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Posted: 8/13/2005 3:27:59 PM EDT
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are you that dumb? you have to do a background check on ANY firearm purchased from an FFL. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 3:30:06 PM EDT
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I don't know what it's like back in the 80's where you are living, but every firearm needs a background check nowadays. |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 5:12:31 AM EDT
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Ameetec
American Spirit Arms Apache Junction Imports Arizona Expert Arms Arizona Sportsman (Mesa ) Arizona Tactical (Tempe) Bear Arms (Scottsdale) Bear Mountain (Mesa) Big Bore Cavalry Arms Corporation Dimondback Tactical Glockmeister Guns Etc. Guns Plus (Surprise) J+G J-Mart (Arizona Sportsman Tucson) Lone Wolf Guns MCLTD Mesa Gun Shop Murphy's Pistol Parlor Prebans Randalls Robar Company -2 Scottsdale Gun Club Scottsdale Gun Center Shooters World Shooting Star Wal-mart Where do I start on how bad ROBAR sucks? I know they have a stellar reputation, but I, and several other's I know, have been screwed by them. They area big operation, and I post this only to illustrate that even the people who get the great write up in the mags can screw you. The first problem was a duty gun (Glock) that I wanted a grip reduction on. I specified and paid for removal of the finger grooves. It was estimated to take 6 weeks. It took 12, by which time I just wanted my gun back. When I pointed out that they did not do the reduction on the front, the desk lady lied to my face, saying they did, and that they don't completely remove the finger grooves. When I asked for a refund of that portion of the reduction, she said that they could not do it, since they performed the reduction. She said they would be happy to further reduce it at no charge, but it would be another 12 weeks. I took my gun and left, like an idiot. The next time I had a problem, I took a duty weapon in there for NP3. I carried it on my body without a holster while working undercover, and though blued, it did not rust. They estimated 6 weeks. After 5 months, I started calling. The female desk person (red head, name escapes me), said she would look into it. I never got return calls, and each time I called, she said she would have someone call me back right away. I called at least a dozen times, got the run around for weeks, and when I finally got my gun back, I found out that they plated the gun without removing the front tritium sight. They had to wait for a custom one to made, and did not tell me. To make it worse, the gun was heavily rusted in two days. I was told that it was my body chemistry, and that they could do nothing for me. I called bullsh*t on that, and asked that they either re-do the gun, or strip it. They said they would do either at original cost. My friend took in a custom 1911 that I built for him. He had it Roguarded and NP3ed, and when he got it back, there were a few bubbles in it. They also Roguarded parts that were supposed to be NP3ed. He was displeased, wondering how they would have let it out of the shop like this. Robbie Barkmann inspects it, and insures it will be done right. He gets it back, and the Roguard rubs off the slide edges after he inserts it once and removes it from a new Galco leather holster. He was told this was normal wear, outside of the warranty. An aquaintance send in his HK P7M13 for Roguard. He gets it back, and it does not function. It won't even cock. He takes it to a smith since he no longer trusts Robar. He finds out that the coating is so thick on the internals that the gun will not cock. I have more stories, but all I can say is this. If you have a problem with a company, it's how they handle it that makes all the difference in the world. Robar does not handle it's mistakes very well. |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 8:08:15 AM EDT
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What's this? They EXCEED federal guidelines. If you can't comprehend the article on wal-mart's site, I guess you're the one that is THAT DUMB. |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 11:00:45 AM EDT
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Lennster, I guess I'm that dumb. Can you clarify this for me. I read that Walmart link. I also read your first post saying:
Are you saying that WalMart does not need to do background checks on long guns period, or are you pointing out their policy of holding onto guns when they do not get a 3 business day resolution on a NICS delay? If it's the former, TheRedHorseman has it correct by stating that all FFL holders must do a NICS check on all guns, whether handgun or long gun. As far as WalMarts policy of holding a gun when there is no resolution after 3 business days, I would be willing to bet that almost every FFL holder in this town would do the same. It's really up to the discretion of the FFL holder. Check out this link on the FBIs website: www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsdelay.htm Anyway, I'm just posting this to get clarification, since it's getting confusing already. There's more info regarding NICS at this link: www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics.htm |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 1:29:47 PM EDT
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As far as I read it Walmart apparently exceeds Federal guidelines in that they will not complete a gun sale if the NICS background check is not yet affirmed and 3 days has passed. Apparenty, if they take over 3 days to answer the store can legally sell the gun but Walmart chooses to wait until they get aq response even if it takes over 3 days.
I think that us it. This is a far cry from "unnecessary background checks on long guns" as originally stated. It is however a corporate position that exceeds federal guidelines. Jimmy is now stepping out of the line of fire to allow our regularly scheduled mudslinging to continue. |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 2:02:34 PM EDT
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Ameetec +2 A GREAT PLACE TO BUY LOWERS AND HAVE THAT CUSTOM AR15 BUILT. ALSO A VERY GOOD GUN SMITH ON BOARD THERE.
American Spirit Arms 0 Apache Junction Imports 0 Arizona Expert Arms +2, GREAT GUY TO HAVE WORK ON YOUR ARMS Arizona Sportsman (Mesa ) 0 Arizona Tactical (Tempe) +2 FUN PLACE TO TALK ABOUT ALL THINGS GUNS, NEED TO STOP BY SOON. Bear Arms (Scottsdale) 0 Bear Mountain (Mesa) 0 Big Bore 0 Cavalry Arms Corporation +2 WHILE THESE GUYS DON'T SELL TO THE PUBLIC, GREAT PLACE TO STOP BY AND CHAT WITH. JUST CALL FIRST. Diamondback Tactical 0 Glockmeister 0 Guns Etc. 0 Guns Plus (Surprise) 0, NEED TO STOP BY SOME TIME J+G +2 JUST FOR AMMO J-Mart (Arizona Sportsman Tucson) 0 Lone Wolf Guns 0 MCLTD +3 I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT WHY DO YOU NEED BRICK AND MORTAR STORE'S WHEN YOU HAVE MIKE? HE IS A GUY THAT WILL GO WAY OUT OF YOUR WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS. HE HAS EVEN WORKED OVER GUNS OF MINE I DID NOT BUY FROM HIM. HE IS JUST A GREAT GUY. HE WON'T BULLSHIT YOU EITHER. I TRUST HIM LIKE A BROTHER. ALSO A CLASS 3 DEALER Mesa Gun Shop 0 BEEN MANY TIMES NEVER HAVE BOUGHT ANYTHING FROM THEM. Murphy's 0 Pistol Parlor +1, THEY STOCK AR PARTS NOW! Prebans +2 ANOTHER PRIVATE DEALER, I DON'T KNOW MIKE K. AS WELL AS THE OTHER MIKE ON HERE. HE SEEMS LIKE A HONEST, AND STRAIGHT SHOOTER THO. I HAVE TRUST IN HIM AS WELL. ALSO A CLASS 3 DEALER. Randalls 0 Robar Company 0 Scottsdale Gun Club 0 Scottsdale Gun Center 0 Shooters World 0 Shooting Star 0 Wal-mart +1 GOOD FOR A QUICK AMMO FIX WHY ISN'T SPORTSMAN'S WAREHOUSE ON HERE? IT GETS A +2 FOR AMMO AND THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE GUNS THAT YOU WANT MCTLTD, OR PREBANS TO ORDER FOR YOU. |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 8:04:26 PM EDT
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"Revision to Gun Policy - June 2002. In June 2002, Wal-Mart made the voluntary decision not to make a gun sale to anyone until we receive an approved background check from the National Instant Check System (NICS), even if the approval process lasts longer than three business days. Currently, gun retailers can legally make a gun sale without NICS approval, if that approval is still pending after three business days. " No you are just as stupid as Wal-Mart is...  A non call-back from NICS after 3 days is a yes answer from them. Wal Mart is so freaking arrogant and stupid they think they are owed a call back. You just keep drinking that Wal Mart Kool - Aid and buy your guns from them. |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 9:24:55 PM EDT
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Is their Kool-Aid made in China or the USA? |
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