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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:55:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/21/2016 1:59:56 AM EDT by jchewie1]
This guy I know sometimes tows someone else's boat from someone else's cottage to a launch site.
The boat stuff (FLARE GUN, key, fire extinguisher, anchor, towels, life jackets, fish tackle, bait etc) has always been placed in the vehicle for the ride.
The flare gun is always unloaded and almost always in a cardboard box. The flares are in the same box, a couple of factory sealed three packs.

Once at the launch site the stuff gets unloaded from the vehicle into the boat, the blower gets turned on, the launch fee gets paid, the boat tie down straps come off and the boat gets launched.
When the day is done the boat stuff goes back in the vehicle for the ride home then in the cottage. The boat is stored outdoors all summer long.



I came across this, which makes me think the guy is doing things wrong.
There does not even appear to be a CPL exemption.

The way I read (e) the guy needs to put the flare gun in the boat first thing, because (d) never applies if he is towing his boat.
Did I miss something? Agree, disagree?











750.231c “Aircraft,” “approved signaling device,” and “vessel” defined; sections inapplicable to approved signaling device; sale, purchase, possession, or use of approved signaling device; violation as misdemeanor; penalties.


Sec. 231c.

(1) As used in this section:

(a) “Aircraft” means aircraft as defined in section 43.

(b) “Approved signaling device” means a pistol which is a signaling device approved by the United States coast guard pursuant to regulations issued under former section 4488 of the Revised Statutes of the United States, 46 U.S.C. Appx. 481, or under former section 5 of the federal boat safety act of 1971, Public Law 92-75, 46 U.S.C. 1454.

(c) “Vessel” means every description of watercraft, other than a seaplane on the water, used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on water.

(2) Sections 223, 227, 228, 232, 232a, and 237 shall not apply to an approved signaling device.

(3) A person shall not sell an approved signaling device to a person, nor shall a person purchase an approved signaling device, unless the purchaser is 18 years of age or older and either of the following apply:

(a) The purchaser possesses and displays to the seller any of the following:

(i) A valid and current certificate of number issued pursuant to section 80124 of part 801 (marine safety) of the natural resources and environmental protection act, Act No. 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being section 324.80124 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, for a vessel.

(ii) If a vessel is considered in compliance with the numbering requirements of this state pursuant to section 80122 of part 801 of Act No. 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being section 324.80122 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, proof of ownership or proof of the vessel's being numbered in another state.

(iii) If a vessel is not required to be numbered or to display a decal under part 801 of Act No. 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.80101 to 324.80199 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, proof of ownership of the vessel.

(b) The purchaser is the holder of and displays to the seller a valid and effective airman's certificate of competency issued by the United States or a foreign government.

(4) A person may possess an approved signaling device only under the following circumstances:

(a) The possession occurs in the process of manufacturing, marketing, or sale of the device, including the transportation of the device as merchandise, and the device is unloaded.

(b) The device is on a vessel or on an aircraft.

(c) The device is at a person's residence.

(d) The person is en route from the place of purchase to the person's residence or the person's vessel or aircraft or between the person's residence and the person's vessel or aircraft.

(e) The device is in a vehicle other than a vessel or aircraft and all of the following apply:

(i) The device is unloaded.

(ii) The device is enclosed in a case and either is carried in the trunk of the vehicle which has a trunk or is otherwise not readily accessible to the occupants of the vehicle.

(iii) Subdivision (d) applies.

(5) A person shall not use an approved signaling device unless he or she reasonably believes that its use is necessary for the safety of the person or of another person on the waters of this state or in an aircraft emergency situation.

(6) A person who sells, purchases, or possesses an approved signaling device in violation of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days, or a fine of not more than $200.00, or both.

(7) A person who uses an approved signaling device in violation of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of not more than $200.00.


History: Add. 1982, Act 185, Eff. July 1, 1982 ;-- Am. 1996, Act 80, Imd. Eff. Feb. 27, 1996
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 4:38:53 AM EDT
So your buddy is "That guy" at the dock holding the launch...

Leave all that crap in the boat, in the same spot, always. Taking some of that stuff out could cause it to get lost or forgotten and when in need wont be found in time.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 12:07:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/22/2016 12:09:29 PM EDT by jchewie1]
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Originally Posted By lonewolf54:
So your buddy is "That guy" at the dock holding the launch...

Leave all that crap in the boat, in the same spot, always. Taking some of that stuff out could cause it to get lost or forgotten and when in need wont be found in time.
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No. "The guy I know" is not and has never been "that guy."
The boat is always prepped way back in the parking lot, out of the way. Anyone ready to launch doesn't even notice us.
Linwood Bay Marina, prep takes place well off to the side of the main driveway by the store, before the bridge, if it matters.

The boat is not secured, is stored at a cottage with irregular visits, outside under its canvas cover.
Everything goes from its spot in the boat to the truck then back in its spot in the house, same time every time
There isn't a problem forgetting or finding anything, and that routine will not change.



Looking for other input on the law, if anyone has any.

Link Posted: 10/22/2016 2:04:36 PM EDT
I left my flare gun in the round orange OLIN case.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:43:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2016 12:44:36 PM EDT by jchewie1]
The flare gun never had a case, but the guy I know is probably going to get a case for Christmas and a recommendation to just stick it in the boat before towing it anywhere.
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