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Posted: 2/1/2011 8:19:53 AM EDT
Cross-post from GD, but I am really sick of what passes for "reporting" these days.



Link

DAYTON — Bill Goodman Gun and Knife Shows have tightened rules governing who can buy guns at Hara Arena and other Goodman shows.

Background
checks of buyers are required by licensed and non-licensed vendors
selling guns at the shows promoted by Goodman, company officials
confirmed Monday.

"All vendors who have any firearms on
display must display a ‘Background Checks Required’ signage provided by
the promoter,” according to new guidelines posted online by Goodman.

The new rules have no effect on gun sales between individuals at the shows.

In 2009, city investigators in New York
found problems at seven gun shows in three states, including shows
promoted by Goodman at Hara, Sharonville Convention Center north of
Cincinnati and the Tennessee State Fairgrounds in Nashville.

On
Monday, Bloomberg’s office said undercover agents bought a Glock pistol
with a 33-round extended magazine, like the weapon used in Tucson —
with no background check — at the Crossroads of the West Gun Show in
Phoenix.


The rest continues at the link.  I just don't get it; why are people so
quick to jump on law abiding citizens rather than hold people
responsible for their actions??  We don't need any more gun control, we
need to enforce the laws on the books, harshly.  I just had to send off
an email to the "reporter"....











Mr. Budd,
    At first I was going to give you the benefit of the
doubt and consider your article about recent changes to Goodman's gun
shows to be misinformed but after some basic research, which you either
failed to do or decided to leave out of your article, I've come to the
realization that this article is based on sheer ignorance and is yet
another hit piece on gun shows and gun owners.  Before I go any further
I'd like to make you aware of the fact that my guns have not killed,
harmed, shot, or even been pointed at anyone. Guns are not the problem,
sir, psychopaths are.  
    The first sentence in your article is
completely false, "Bill Goodman Gun and Knife Shows have tightened rules
governing who can buy guns at Hara Arena and other Goodman shows."  No,
Bill Goodman Gun and Knife Shows have simply instated a policy
requiring private sellers to have "background checks performed on all
firearms sold at the show thru "House FFL's".  I'm not sure about the
workings of this "House FFL" and since I'm neither a "reporter" nor
someone who purchased a firearm at the gun show I really have no need to
inquire to Goodman about the workings of it.  It does sound to me like
Bill Goodman Gun and Knife Shows has set up a way for private sellers to
obtain background checks on potential buyers before a sale is made.  
This makes your fourth sentence also completely false, "The new rules
have no effect on gun sales between individuals at the shows."  Well,
yes these rules do actually have an effect on sales between private
individuals at Goodman shows; Goodman's website clearly states that any
and all sales performed within the confines of the show by private
individuals will require a background check.  They even go so far as to
offer a "reward" to anyone who "reports a substantiated violation of any
vendor's commitment to perform a background check."  Keep in mind, this
is a Goodman requirement, not a state requirement.  
   
Let's move on.  "In 2009, city investigators in New York found
problems at seven gun
shows in three states, including shows promoted by Goodman at Hara,
Sharonville Convention Center north of Cincinnati and the Tennessee
State Fairgrounds in Nashville."  And what exactly were those
"problems"?  I'm betting the "problems" you refer to have something to
do with the supposed gun show "loophole" that allows private citizens to
do what is perfectly legal to do whether they be in their front yard or
at a gun show.  I can still sell you a firearm without performing a
background check
outside of a Goodman show; what I, and many other folks, will do is ask
to see
a valid Ohio driver's license and a valid Ohio concealed carry license.
Why?  First it's illegal to sell to a non-resident.  Second if you hold
a valid concealed carry license I know you have never been convicted of
a felony, you have never been convicted of any drug related offense,
and you have already passed a criminal background check performed by the
Sheriff's office when you applied for your concealed carry license.
   
Moving right along, "On Monday, Bloomberg’s office said undercover
agents bought a Glock
pistol with a 33-round extended magazine, like the weapon used in Tucson
— with no background check — at the Crossroads of the West Gun Show in
Phoenix."  I just have to get this out of the way; I find it absolutely
reprehensible how much the media in general has danced on the graves of
the victims of the Tucson shooting in order to try to move their agenda
forward.  With that being said this statement about undercover agents is
designed to do one thing; to link the Tucson shooting with gun shows.  
First off, this has absolutely nothing to do with a Goodman show.  
Secondly, as I have already covered, it is perfectly legal for a private
citizen to sell a firearm to another private citizen without a
background check in Ohio.  Once again, as I am not a "reporter" nor a
resident of Arizona I have no need to know if the same holds true in
Arizona.  Just for fun I performed a quick Google search for "Arizona
gun laws" and the very first article that came up included the
following, "The investigators also purchased a Glock 9mm –– similar to
the gun
alleged Tucson shooter Jared Loughner used –– without a background check
from a private seller
at the gun show, which is legal under a
loophole
in federal firearms laws. Although federally-licensed gun-dealers are
required to make background checks before selling guns, private and
supposedly "occasional" dealers are not required to conduct such
checks."  What is of much greater importance to me is how does Michael
Bloomberg, the mayor of New York City, have any authority whatsoever to
run any kind of operation in Arizona?  Additionally were the agents that
purchased the firearm residents of Arizona?  Is one required by law to
be a resident of Arizona in order to purchase a firearm from another
Arizona resident?  
   
I will never understand why the media in general is out to make law
abiding citizens out to be the criminals rather than holding
individuals accountable for their actions but this is just another
glaring example and yet another reason why I refuse to be a subscriber
of the Dayton Daily News.  











 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 8:48:55 AM EDT
[#1]
I wish somebody would arrest Bloomberg for making straw purchases and transporting interstate without a license.  
That asshole has no authority to do these "undercover investigations".  If every mayor in the country started runnng
around playing junior g-man like he does we'd have a hell of a mess on our hands.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:14:14 PM EDT
[#2]
That type of POS reporting and left leaning editorials was the reason I quit subscribing to the DDN years ago. The price increase did not sit well with me, either.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 7:47:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I wish somebody would arrest Bloomberg for making straw purchases and transporting interstate without a license.  
That asshole has no authority to do these "undercover investigations".  If every mayor in the country started runnng
around playing junior g-man like he does we'd have a hell of a mess on our hands.


which is why virginia and west virginia outlawed bloomberg-esque sting operations...
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