Attention all WI HTF members. I have the visual proof of the so called $250 mosin nagant.

A little back story first.

This morning I met up with my friend Flamethrower. We went to the Waukesha gun show with the intention of finding a few things. One of those things being the famed $250 mosin nagant. Upon our arrival we entered the building and were met with the all to familliar stench of gun show funk. Most of that funk throughout the day came from Flamethrower. We found the Mosin Nagant table and proceeded to plot out our plan of attack. Which mainly consisted of Flamethrower wussing out and telling me to ask the questions. So here is the brunt of the conversation. We will call the seller "Douchey McStupidPants"

Me: Hi, I have a question. What makes this mosin nagant different than the ones for $90 everywhere else

DMc: Well, there are no more coming in. This one is an un-issued M44.

Me: What do you mean there are no more?

DMc: There are no more being imported what ever is out there is the last of them unless someone finds a lost crate somewhere

Flame:

DMc: Over the last few years they have been going up in price. About $100 every year.

Me:

Me: Oh I never noticed I havent looked at prices for quite some time.

DMc: Yeah, what ever is out there is the last of them. You might see a surplus of them and the prices come down for a bit but the prices will go right back up once they are gone.

Me:

Flame:

Me: OK thanks for your time


So that was the basic conversation. The funny thing is that in May of 2009 I bought a M44 from a garage sale locally. I went to the next Waukesha gun show after that. I sold that M44 to this guy for $80. The reason this stands out is because he was bitching at me about him being able to get it cheaper from a wholesale place. He did cave in and pay the price. I looked at the rest of his nagants and even back then he was over priced. They were all about $140-$170. When I saw that I took out a pen and wrote on the back of one of his tags "Do not buy this, it is over priced" I later saw that he had my nagant up there for $120 or so.

I guess he lives in his own world. Last but not least. The pics.



The guy is about 6 foot tall has short grey hair in a crew cut type style and has a short grey moustache. His table is in the middle of the first room closest to the entrance.

Oh and next to the M44 was an un-issued M38 for $225.

We also went over to the M&A table and I played some sound board clips of Darth Vader. Mostly his breathing and a few things like "what is thy bidding my Master" It sent Flamethrower into a laughing fit to where he had to walk away.

I saw this shirt too.

I didnt wuss out. I used my Jedi mind powers on you.

Oh, and you were smelling yourself.

Sadly, I know the table.

"When I saw that I took out a pen and wrote on the back of one of his tags "Do not buy this, it is over priced"

IF you really did that then you sir are a true asshole!  So what if the guy is overpriced on his guns?  If you don't like it then don't buy one from him, pretty simple!  he puts a price on his items and if someone thinks they are to high then they don't have to buy it.  To deface his price tag was wrong on so many levels.  The guy should have taken his rifle and clubbed you over the head with it.

I'm glad Flame found a new shirt.

I looked over that table too. The M38 caught my interest as it was a 1944 Izhevsk - not the rarest, but most are 43's you see. The price was too high for me. I did pick up a very nice, matching ( not common) Romanian M44 for 125 OTD Friday night. Yeah, I have a soft spot for Mosins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

Shit, I did those aisles at least three times (painful in the morning) and didn't see that.

I was trying to work a deal on the Saiga 12 from Heineken Santa but it wasn't to be had.

Without buying a drum anyway.


ETA –– I had to try a test run, walked past M&A –– he said hi all by himself.  Could've shit myself.

aka "Marty the Nazi"



I think the man has changed, seriously.

Go blow it out your ass. I sure like how you are wishing and advocating violence towards another arfcom member.

I just took a marker and wrote "Do not read this" on his post saying you shouldn't have.  

Aw shit, that was permanent marker on my notebook screen!!  

whiteout will fix that.

You deface a person property, which is illegal BTW, and are proud of it enough to post pictures on the internet.  I don't want to be called a member of anything that you are a member of.  You're no better than some punk who spray paints or vandalizes someone else's property trying to make yourself look cool.

What exactley would you call someone who does something like that?  I call them an asshole!  If it was your gun that he did it to how would you feel?  Imagine a customer looking at the rifle and getting ready to buy it and then seeing his little fucking note written on it?  Bye bye sale!  And while you might think it's over priced IT'S NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS!!!  Honestly if you did that I would be so pissed I would probably at the very least have you kicked out of the show and I might even call the police and have you charged with vandelism just for pulling such a bone headed, childish thing.

I did not do that at all. I did not take pics of a price tag with my writing on it. That is a legit pic of that guys price tag. I did not deface it. Go back and read the OP again. Obviously reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

If you get all bent out of shape over a price tag and start attacking members here we actually dont want you. Go log out and dont come back if you feel that passionate about it. Oh, and trying to compare me to a punk kid who spraypaints and vandalizes is comical and you fail. Thanks for judging me and my whole life on one immature act that I did a year ago. Im glad you are perfect and have done no wrong.

As a gun show vendor, if someone did that to one of my price tags, I would probably ask myself...Hmm  is it really overpriced? Perhaps I should check into that. Then put a new .01 cent tag back on, and do some more research on the product. Unless of course I am intentionally jacking my prices on an item to take advantage of buyers who don't really know any better. I guess being a shithead is the American way?..



My guess is they would laugh at you and walk away.

So you didn't take a pix of the tag you defaced, how does that make what you did any better?  At least you are admiting what you did was immature, that's at least a step in the right direction.  Now go admit what you did to the person and appologize to him!

And who the hell are you to tell me to leave here?  I didn't realize that you own this site!  It has nothing to do with a little price tag, it has to do with a man's character, and doing that to another persons property and business show a lot about a person.

"As a gun show vendor, if someone did that to one of my price tags, I would probably as myself...Hmm is it really overpriced? Perhaps I should check into that. Then put a new .01 cent tag back on, and do some more research on the product. Unless of course I am intentionally jacking my prices on an item to take advantage of buyers who don't really know any better. I guess being a shithead is the American way?.. "

Sure you would!

Sir. Have you ever done anything wrong, childish or bad in your life?  My guess is yes. If you say no, then you are a liar.  Perhaps you should apologize to everyone you have wronged.

Sure I would what?

I did the tag thing a year ago. I took a pic this time instead of writing on the back of it.

I dont own the site but I contribute to it. You said you didnt want to be a member of anything that has me in it. Well I am not leaving and you are the one with you high morals on my character. I guess you never did a prank before in your life. You must be fun at parties too.

PSA: Hey everyone, if you pull a prank and make a statement on a price tag you are a bad person and are an asshole and a punk and should be arrested for vandalism.

Oh by the way a cop would laugh at you and walk away.

Nice, now you are questioning the moral character of another member on this site who is a vendor and has very reasonable prices and treats his customers fairly?

So you think that "defacing" the guys property is not OK, but it's OK for the guy to flat out lie to potential customers about the rarity and pricing of his product?  Capitalism is one thing, but being a liar and a sneaky business man is another.

Does that make what 40xb did OK?  Maybe, maybe not.  But the guy he did it to certainly doesn't deserve any sympathy and definitely doesn't deserve to be defended so adamantly.

btw, you did say you didn't want to be a member of any place that 40xb is a member of so I guess we will catch you later......

messing with someone's business is not a prank.  

Of course I did things that I'm not proud of in my life but I don't come on the internet and brag about it.  Plus I'm not a kid anymore and would not do something like that just because I think a guys price is high.

If someone did this to you you would be on hear saying what a jerk he was, don't kid yourself or lie to us.

I don't consider myself a "member" of any web-site.  It's a web-site, not a club.  I just don't want to be associated with someone who pulls childish behaviors like this and brags about it like it makes him cool.

AS for pricing it's worth what the customer thinks it's worht, if it's over priced then it won't sell.  Just because you don't want to pay what someone is asking doesn't mean that someone else wont.

If someone did write on it I doubt I would mention it here. Lots of things happen at shows I don't talk about here.I have no need to lie. In the end all I have is my word. I would really like to see the end of the crochity bitter old gun show vendor, that talks shit about everyone. Until that generation is gone, it is unlikely to happen.

I am not a kid and 40XB is not either.

Let me guess, you're about 6' tall have short gray hair and a mustache?
 

IBSY!

(in before system message)

So you believe it is ok for someone to take advantage of another unknowing person? That is not capitalism that is lying and being deceitful. There was a thread on here just this last weekend about a guy (19) who got ripped off buying a $250 dollar mosin nagant because he didnt know anything about them or their value. I at least am willing to protect an unsuspecting person while you support the person ripping them off and taking their hard earned money through lies. you sound like a great asset to the gun community yourself.  

Ripping people off because you can. Sounds very moral and of high character to me.

While this is a tantelizing conversation. I think I am going to play some video games and unwind a little.

Does message have silent invisible Y in it that I dont know of? Oh and dont jinx us.

Since when do threads in HTF become GD train wreaks?

Someone either needs to drink more until they calm down, or drink less until they calm down.

oops.




****note to self: don't hold conversation with wife while posting on Arfcom****

I got a feeling it was reelmans table in question!

In other news...

I guess we just figured out through this thread that "Douchey McStupidPants" selling the $250 Mosin is an arfcommer?

Welcome.

Guess you pissed him off writing on his tag and all.

On second thought –– it was wrong of you.  With the gun worth $250, that paper tag has to be worth at least $30, $50 if attached with string and $75 if it was the "original" string from OfficeMax.

Of course, that was before the you "defaced" it.

OK, you beat me to it.

But not really because I was editing that post for over five minutes.

No it was not my table, I haven't done shows in a couple years but I do remember enough to know that there is certain etiquette that one does at shows and messing with someone'd guns is a major no no.
Every show I ever went to there were a couple guns that were way over priced but I never felt the need to confront the person or write something on their price tag.

Damn, I go on vacation for a day and miss this epic thread...


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