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Posted: 8/10/2005 12:48:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:55:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 12:55:59 AM EDT by Scope-eye]
When will people realise that it's not the gun that kills. It's usually the drugged up, convicted pusher, who by his own admission was 'out of it', if you can believe the papers. Perhaps we should make supplying/using hard drugs illegal. Or being in possession of a firearm whilst drunk or on drugs illegal. Or even shooting someone for no reason, illegal.

No wait, they already are illegal.

So banning airguns will stop this prat doing something illegal? Hasn't so far. Being illegal has been no barrier to most all criminals in the past.

You might as well ban all cars cos one killed a child, or ban Drs as they kill more people than legally held guns.

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:15:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 1:17:21 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:45:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 1:45:45 AM EDT by streetfighter]
Fuck the Jockinese. They've got no backbone anyhow.
Spent too many years hanging on to Old Mother England's coat tails.

What was once a brave and tough nation has now become just a parody of their former selves.
They've lost all national identity too.
Now, I've got nothing against Jockinese individuals, but collectively, well...........................

Besides, they're the real cause of our problems in the Occupied territories of Northern Ireland.

What would ols Braveheart do if he was here today? Send the English a letter of complaint??


Anyway, back to work


Mark
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:56:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:58:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By streetfighter:
What was once a brave and tough nation has now become just a parody of their former selves.


True in the most part.


Originally Posted By streetfighter:
They've lost all national identity too.


Now that is absolute shite. There is no-one, absolutely no-one I have met that has more national pride and cultural identity than the Scottish. I get it all day as well as the missus is Scottish.

Celts eh!

Dave
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 3:05:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 3:09:21 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 3:12:15 AM EDT
That's all I need, the fucking Irish starting something AGAIN.

You's can all piss off anyway, Geordie and proud! (Not English, not Scottish, but Geordie)


Dave
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 3:13:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 4:52:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By elucidate:
That's all I need, the fucking Irish starting something AGAIN.

You's can all piss off anyway, Geordie and proud! (Not English, not Scottish, but Geordie)


Dave




What's a Geordie?

A Scotsman who couldn't climb back over the wall…





Actually Dave, I know your missus is Scottish so don't take it to heart.
And I'm right, the Scots are losing their National Identity, besides why do so many of them object to Devolution?? Once, the Scots wanted independance from Britain (England), now they want handouts.
They are more Liberal than the most liberal thing and want nothing more than to remain British.
And if that's not losing your national Identity, what is??.

Funny thing is, the Scots, just like the Loyalists in N.Ireland, pledge their allegiance to a nation that doesn't really give a damn about them.

How about they get their drugs and society problems under control before they start tackling Airguns.
I'm sure those wonderful northern delicacies..deep fried mars Bars and Eldorado Electric Soup kill more than the occasional fucker with an airgun.
Ban the Mars Bars and batter....Do it for the children.

Mark

back to work again
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:13:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By elucidate:

Originally Posted By streetfighter:
Originally Posted By streetfighter:
They've lost all national identity too.


Now that is absolute shite. There is no-one, absolutely no-one I have met that has more national pride and cultural identity than the Scottish. I get it all day as well as the missus is Scottish.

Celts eh!

Dave



Yes, but Mel Gibson is a yank so why do they identify with him?

tinypic.com/ab0cci.jpg



Mel is Austrailian. He's so Austrailian that they had to dub the American release of Mad max.
And we Scots aren't that bad surely?
(awaits "pellet boy" or "Europellet" jokes)
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:59 PM EDT
Contrary to what everyone believes...Mel Gibson is not Australian, he's American.
He was born in America and has American parents.
He was brought up in Australia because his father moved the family there so that his sons would avoid the Vietnam draft.

Mark
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:50:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BlairHous:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By elucidate:

Originally Posted By streetfighter:
Originally Posted By streetfighter:
They've lost all national identity too.


Now that is absolute shite. There is no-one, absolutely no-one I have met that has more national pride and cultural identity than the Scottish. I get it all day as well as the missus is Scottish.

Celts eh!

Dave



Yes, but Mel Gibson is a yank so why do they identify with him?

tinypic.com/ab0cci.jpg



Mel is Austrailian. He's so Austrailian that they had to dub the American release of Mad max.
And we Scots aren't that bad surely?
(awaits "pellet boy" or "Europellet" jokes)



Mel Gibson was born in NewYork, and his father reportedly went to Australia to dodge the draft. According to one sunday glossy from several years ago, anyway.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:12:06 PM EDT
The Welsh are pretty patriotic...and you sometimes find the English get grief just for being patriotic

The Scotts the Irish too we all have our feeling of belonging and our Homeland.

Politics is Politics....remember it's a game to those who dabble in it. Spin is spin and Lies are Lies

BUT

Votes are Votes....and Votes make the Political world go round

That said we/shooters are a minority and there's a heap o'shit that goes with that....
Like ....democracy does not favor the minority..but it don't mean we don't deserve a good crack of the whip.

Support shooting by going shooting.


As for the above article
My prayers go out to family of Andrew Morton very sad

But an air rifle did not kill this innocent

Air rifles do not kill
Guns do not kill
People kill

Blaming an airgun for this death is like
Blaming spoons for the cause of Vanessa Feltz being so FAT

Just my ha'penny

Taffy


Streetfighte­r get back to work and quit fishing
ooops it's too late for work..nevermind
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:14:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By elucidate:

Now that is absolute shite. There is no-one, absolutely no-one I have met that has more national pride and cultural identity than the Scottish. I get it all day as well as the missus is Scottish.

Celts eh!

Dave



If scotland is so great why do the scots seem to want to leave as soon as possible. They're all over the World, it seems anywhere other than Scotland. Must be more Scots outside Scotland than in the country. It's like Australians, they're all in Earls Court, raving about how great Australia is. "It's a darn sight better now you've left, mate".

I like Scotland and nearly every Scot I've met, so don't get me wrong, I think it's a great country. I've spent more time in Scotland then most 'scots', but this whole 'we're better than yous' crap is just that - crap. And why do the scots make a plural out of 'you'?
Besides there are no true 'Scots' anymore. The Scottie were a tribe from Ireland who were fed up with the petty bickering and small wars there that they sailed over the sea. Between them, the Romans and the Vikings, they managed to kill off all the true 'scots'. I call them 'scots' as we don't know what they called themselves, but the Romans called them Pics because they painted themselves, but no record of their own name for themselves exists, and no record of language remains. The Scots are invaders and most likely have less claim to the land then most of Europe.

And Scotland was the last part of the UK to be inhabited by the Celts. They started in England (Wessex, SW Peninsular) and southern Ireland, moved north through Wales and the rest of Ireland, then to Scotland. After that there was nowhere to go.

Most of this is plagerised or paraphrased from a book called 'Celts' bought in the Bagpipe museum, IIRC, in Edinburgh many years ago. If you really want to upset the Scots, tell them where the bagpipes come from and 'how Scottish they are'. Seems like everything is borrowed from another culture. Weren't kilts originally from Ireland? Just like the Scots I assume.

So don't start on this 'cultural identity' crap.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:21:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 1:31:08 PM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:42:17 PM EDT


Wow fella's....did you all foreget We's on the same side here.

Banter is cool ....the sheep will be safe tonite, once i've had a few voddies I'll never catch the blighters

But we's all British
Spawn of the Vikings/Celts/Romans and who knows what else

<­BR>
Anyway
Back at the Batcave
Beautiulf day here today . Got to the range and wish I'd not bothered...shite shooting...shite groups....back killing me. Could not get comfy while sighting in my ickle 10/22 with different ammo....I swear i'm never gonna clean that rifle again

Taffy
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:47:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Taffy223:


Wow fella's....did you all foreget We's on the same side here.

But we's all British

Taffy



Yeah. OK enough is enough.
We's gotta stick together to stop the evil, relentless march of Europeanism.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:48:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 1:49:11 PM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:49:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Scope-eye:

Originally Posted By Taffy223:


Wow fella's....did you all foreget We's on the same side here.

But we's all British

Taffy



Yeah. OK enough is enough.
We's gotta stick together to stop the evil, relentless march of Europeanism.



Bollox to Europe

I'm only interested in our little Island and it's well armed little provinces..."pouts"
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:50:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Taffy223:
But we's all British……






img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/macandy/passport.jpg


ANdy



OK but ya get my drift...Strength in Unity

Taffy
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:51:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Scope-eye:

Originally Posted By Taffy223:


Wow fella's....did you all foreget We's on the same side here.

But we's all British

Taffy



Yeah. OK enough is enough.
We's gotta stick together to stop the evil, relentless march of Europeanism.



Awww, but but, I was enjoying that.
But I suppose we've got to be sociable to our Haggis munching friends.
If only they would all learn to drive (if you know what I mean).

But do you know what the best thing about Scotland is???....the A1 South

Mark
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:51:49 PM EDT
With my roots and name I could claim to be a Paddy

Taffy the Paddy
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:54:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By streetfighter:

Originally Posted By Scope-eye:

Originally Posted By Taffy223:


Wow fella's....did you all foreget We's on the same side here.

But we's all British

Taffy



Yeah. OK enough is enough.
We's gotta stick together to stop the evil, relentless march of Europeanism.



Awww, but but, I was enjoying that.
But I suppose we've got to be sociable to our Haggis munching friends.
If only they would all learn to drive (if you know what I mean).

But do you know what the best thing about Scotland is???....the A1 South

Mark




And that's why you only have to pay entering Wales over the New/Old Severn Bridge
It's free to get into England...Less Exclusive

Taffy....the confused

Mother English
Father Irish
Born Wales

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:56:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 1:57:37 PM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:58:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Well you could be very right there Taff.

There was huge Irish immigration into South Wales in the 18-1900's. Most southern Welsh if they check will probaly find they are more more than a bit Irish!

ANdy



They do say the Welsh are just Irish people who can't swim....

Taffy
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:00:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:01:37 PM EDT
"ain't nary an animal alive what can outrun a greased Scottsman!"
---Groundskeeper Willy


Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:07:33 PM EDT
Right, my turn.
Although I originate from Belfast and we moved to London in 1975, I was actually born in the Middle East.
Qatar to be precise. My dad first went there in 1955 to build a power station. He worked for Harland & Wolff, the shipbuilders.
Iwas born in 1962 and lived in the Gulf on and off until 1984. That's 21 years. I suppose I could be Wahhabi
Allah o Akhbar. A shadwan a Mohammed a Rasool Allah (Mohammed is the son of God)

But I'm definately not a Jockinese haggis muncher

Mark
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:09:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Jeez! Pellet Boy, you can't even get that right!

Mel Columcille Gerard Gibson, born 3 January 1956, in Peekskill, New York, USA


And yes you Jockinese are that bad… you are a drain on our taxes, you all winge about independence but won't vote SNP. You 'claim' to be more 'enlightened' than us south of the border with your free education and OAP care, but it's easy to do that when it's actually paid for out of someones elses (southern) taxes.

Socialism is endemic in Scotland thanks to the handout culture that keeps Scotland afloat. The Labour Party is little more than a Scottish Socialist Mafia. We can't vote in Scotlands Mickey Mouse Devolved McParliament but you lot can vote in ours. If Scotland was excluded from the Westminster Elections we would have Conservative Governments and the Labour Party knows that so keeps on pumping Billions into Scotland to buy the votes of a grateful public. It costs Westminster roughly £5,000 per head to run Scotland.

The Scottish Nationalists keep banging on about 'Scottish Oil' being robbed by the evil southerners, but forget it was southern tax payers that footed a lot of the initial cost of getting the oil industry off the ground. Then we have the dream that Scotland could be independent and living in the lap of luxury off it's oil revenues. OK, you keep the Oil, we keep all our money, you'll be broke in a year.

And compare Northern Ireland with Scotland, similar sort of tax subsidies but what a difference!! NI people graft and want to get on despite all the crap they have been through in the last 35 years. Now there economy is booming and the standard of living is rocketing so it will soon be able to stand on it's own feet, Scotland however is still a bottomless money pit . Gazzilions have thrown down the drain since the war for absolutely no result.

Difference? The Scots have a ready made excuse for their piss poor economic performance…''It's all the fault of the English, if only we had our Independence'…

And what do we get from Scotland? The major export seems to be drunks to litter the streets of our cities and somewhere to put Nuclear Power Staions and park a few Trident Submarines. If we pulled out of Scotland we could always use Wales who could do with the money and jobs.

You have the most unhealthy population in Western Europe, a drugs problem that's completely out of control and crime rates that make Londons bad areas seem like oasis of peace and tranquility.

And finally, the Scots are fanatically anti gun, it seems to be the Mickey Mouse McParliaments favourite topic. The knee jerk handgun ban was to keep Scottish Voters on side, nothing more, the same with Blair, bought off Scotland with another ban. And now they are demanding banning or licensing Air Rifles!…

If the SCottish put as much energy into sorting out their country as they do about bitching about the 'Auld Enemy' the place would not be in the shit it is now.

And before anyone says it, yes I did live in Scotland for a while, too wet and cold. It's such a great place that what family I had there upped and emigrated to the US this Summer to get away from the moaning neds.



Chill man! I feel the same way you do. I hate the rampant socialism and the Barnett formula and all that. You assume I want independance and stuff. You automatically assume the worst about me. Why?
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:26:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BlairHous:


Chill man! I feel the same way you do. I hate the rampant socialism and the Barnett formula and all that. You assume I want independance and stuff. You automatically assume the worst about me. Why?



I think it's just the thought of pending unfair laws and penalties being imposed upon lawabiding gun owners that gets everyone hot under the collar. Then we just start ranting and the threads get lost. Just happens a bit quicker with a ban potentially on the horizon.

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:33:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Scope-eye:
So don't start on this 'cultural identity' crap.



Matt, how about you, and not I tell this to my missus? Her being Scottish probably knows all this. However the cultural identity is 100%, the land changes and the current Scots cultural identity is in line with the current way Scotland operates. After all, I don't go around telling everyone I am a Dane, when pretty much all my ancient ancestry is Danish/Viking because my family are from Newcastle.


originally posted by Streetfighter:
But do you know what the best thing about Scotland is???....the A1 South



Actually, I really prefer the Jedburgh road, the A697 or something, its lovely anyway, and it's where the proper border is. But in essence you are right
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:35:17 PM EDT
No way is Streetfighter THAT old.

Man, no wonder you're so grumpy
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 4:21:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By elucidate:
No way is Streetfighter THAT old.

Man, no wonder you're so grumpy



He was born mean

Matt
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 6:54:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2005 7:39:17 PM EDT by Zionist]

Originally Posted By Scope-eye:

If scotland is so great why do the scots seem to want to leave as soon as possible. They're all over the World, it seems anywhere other than Scotland. Must be more Scots outside Scotland than in the country. It's like Australians, they're all in Earls Court, raving about how great Australia is. "It's a darn sight better now you've left, mate".

I like Scotland and nearly every Scot I've met, so don't get me wrong, I think it's a great country. I've spent more time in Scotland then most 'scots', but this whole 'we're better than yous' crap is just that - crap. And why do the scots make a plural out of 'you'?
Besides there are no true 'Scots' anymore. The Scottie were a tribe from Ireland who were fed up with the petty bickering and small wars there that they sailed over the sea. Between them, the Romans and the Vikings, they managed to kill off all the true 'scots'. I call them 'scots' as we don't know what they called themselves, but the Romans called them Picts because they painted themselves, but no record of their own name for themselves exists, and no record of language remains. The Scots are invaders and most likely have less claim to the land then most of Europe.

And Scotland was the last part of the UK to be inhabited by the Celts. They started in England (Wessex, SW Peninsular) and southern Ireland, moved north through Wales and the rest of Ireland, then to Scotland. After that there was nowhere to go.

Most of this is plagerised or paraphrased from a book called 'Celts' bought in the Bagpipe museum, IIRC, in Edinburgh many years ago. If you really want to upset the Scots, tell them where the bagpipes come from and 'how Scottish they are'. Seems like everything is borrowed from another culture. Weren't kilts originally from Ireland? Just like the Scots I assume.

So don't start on this 'cultural identity' crap.




Fixed it for ya Matt

Link Posted: 8/11/2005 12:53:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 1:36:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2005 2:47:32 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 1:49:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 8:34:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By streetfighter:
Right, my turn.
Although I originate from Belfast and we moved to London in 1975, I was actually born in the Middle East.
Qatar to be precise. My dad first went there in 1955 to build a power station. He worked for Harland & Wolff, the shipbuilders.
Iwas born in 1962 and lived in the Gulf on and off until 1984. That's 21 years. I suppose I could be Wahhabi
Allah o Akhbar. A shadwan a Mohammed a Rasool Allah (Mohammed is the son of God)

But I'm definately not a Jockinese haggis muncher

Mark



img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/macandy/osamabinstreetfighter.jpg

As Salaam Alaikum! Osama Bin Streetfighter


Linky… Click for the good old days!!!



That's a top secret pic. It was taken at the Batt house near Mirbat in the early '60's

The beard's gone now.

Vito, something makes me think you have too much time on your hands

Mark
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 10:00:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 10:47:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/macandy/osamabinstreetfighter.jpg

As Salaam Alaikum! Osama Bin Streetfighter


Linky… Click for the good old days!!!



Link Posted: 8/11/2005 3:30:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By streetfighter:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By streetfighter:
Right, my turn.
Although I originate from Belfast and we moved to London in 1975, I was actually born in the Middle East.
Qatar to be precise. My dad first went there in 1955 to build a power station. He worked for Harland & Wolff, the shipbuilders.
Iwas born in 1962 and lived in the Gulf on and off until 1984. That's 21 years. I suppose I could be Wahhabi
Allah o Akhbar. A shadwan a Mohammed a Rasool Allah (Mohammed is the son of God)

But I'm definately not a Jockinese haggis muncher

Mark



img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/macandy/osamabinstreetfighter.jpg

As Salaam Alaikum! Osama Bin Streetfighter


Linky… Click for the good old days!!!



That's a top secret pic. It was taken at the Batt house near Mirbat in the early '60's

The beard's gone now.

Vito, something makes me think you have too much time on your hands

Mark




The Battle of Mirbat took place during the 1970s attempted coup in (A strategically located monarchy on the southern and eastern coasts of the Arabian Peninsula; the economy is dominated by oil) Oman. Britain assisted the Oman government by sending elements of its (A specialist regiment of the British army that is trained in commando techniques of warfare and used in clandestine operations (especially against terrorist groups)) Special Air Service to both train soldiers and compete against the Adoo guerillas for the "hearts and minds" of the Omani people.


You were a tad early for the action
Still that's a funny pic..

nice work Andy

Remind me not to post anyomore pics of myself

Taffy
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 4:45:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2005 4:46:55 PM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 9:39:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Taffy223:

Originally Posted By streetfighter:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By streetfighter:




The Battle of Mirbat took place during the 1970s attempted coup in (A strategically located monarchy on the southern and eastern coasts of the Arabian Peninsula; the economy is dominated by oil) Oman. Britain assisted the Oman government by sending elements of its (A specialist regiment of the British army that is trained in commando techniques of warfare and used in clandestine operations (especially against terrorist groups)) Special Air Service to both train soldiers and compete against the Adoo guerillas for the "hearts and minds" of the Omani people.


You were a tad early for the action
Still that's a funny pic..

nice work Andy

Remind me not to post anyomore pics of myself

Taffy




There was also a spat in Oman from 1957-61 (my old man picked up a gong from there) so Mark could have made it, but the nappy would have been on his bum… not on his head.


Andy



umm yeah, [cough] That was the one....f**king Zulu's and Commanchero's everywhere.
Luckily we'd just invented the Trebuchet.
That swung the oddds in our favour
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 12:31:39 AM EDT
DURKA DURKA
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:13:26 AM EDT
Least I'm not the only one who finds Dirka Dirk, Mohammed Jihad incredibly funny.

Dave
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:40:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:03:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By elucidate:
Least I'm not the only one who finds Dirka Dirk, Mohammed Jihad incredibly funny.

Dave



tinypic.com/adgax5.jpg
…"I'm So Ronery"…


I'm So Ronery
I'm so ronery
So ronery
So ronery and sadry arone

There's no one
Just me onry
Sitting on my rittle throne
I work very hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands
Seems that no one takes me serirousry

And so I'm ronery
A little ronery
Poor rittre me

There's nobody
I can rerate to
Feer rike a bird in a cage
It's kinda sihry
But not rearry
Because it's fihring my body with rage

I work rearry hard to stay nice and fit
But none of the women seem to give a shit
When I rure the world maybe they'rr notice me
But untir then I'rr just be ronery
Rittre ronery, poor rittre me
I'm so ronery
I'm so ronery



You really do have too much time, Andy.

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:27:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:09:02 PM EDT
As most of you know I did 20yrs with MoD
When I started we were allowed up to 21 days sick a year...No questions asked
It dropped to 14 a few years ago...never mind

I knew a few of the girls from Admin (HR these days) very well.

When negotiations were afoot over the reduction in sickness

I found out

People used to phone Admin and ask how many sick days they had left and when they needed to use them by

It was treated as an extra 21 days leave


Shocking.....

Those of us who kept under 21 days stayed under the radar

Taffy
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 11:01:22 PM EDT


People used to phone Admin and ask how many sick days they had left and when they needed to use them by

It was treated as an extra 21 days leave




That still happens with our civilian contractors !
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