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Posted: 10/4/2005 6:23:04 AM EDT
my Dad is going to get his CHL!

he is in the coast guard auxillary and has a sweet heart deal lined up thru them.
i read over the info they sent him and the only question i had was on the Course of fire.
i have shot it about 3-4 times and i remember the course below and it requires 50 rounds.
Dad's RO is telling them to bring 100 rounds. not a problem but it's different from what i did.

so i am asking, has the Course changed? can instructors add to or change the course?
just trying to figure out what's going on.

thanks.


Course of Fire:
3 yard line - 20 shots:
1 shot in 2 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 3 seconds, 5 times
5 shots in 10 seconds, once

7 yard line - 20 shots:
5 shots in 10 seconds, once
1 shot in 3 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 4 seconds, once
3 shots in 6 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once

15 yard line - 10 shots:
2 shots in 6 seconds, once
3 shots in 9 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once

Link Posted: 10/4/2005 6:44:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hk940:
my Dad is going to get his CHL!

he is in the coast guard auxillary and has a sweet heart deal lined up thru them.
i read over the info they sent him and the only question i had was on the Course of fire.
i have shot it about 3-4 times and i remember the course below and it requires 50 rounds.
Dad's RO is telling them to bring 100 rounds. not a problem but it's different from what i did.

so i am asking, has the Course changed? can instructors add to or change the course?
just trying to figure out what's going on.

thanks.


Course of Fire:
3 yard line - 20 shots:
1 shot in 2 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 3 seconds, 5 times
5 shots in 10 seconds, once

7 yard line - 20 shots:
5 shots in 10 seconds, once
1 shot in 3 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 4 seconds, once
3 shots in 6 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once

15 yard line - 10 shots:
2 shots in 6 seconds, once
3 shots in 9 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once




You have it. I tell students to bring 100 rounds also. Its in case someone fails the 1st attempt, thats all.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 7:16:48 AM EDT
so bring 100 rounds in case you have to "share"?

thanks
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 7:25:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hk940:
so bring 100 rounds in case you have to "share"?

thanks



No, bring 100 rounds in case you have to re-shoot the course due to some unforeseen event - like I took the course on a windy day, and just as we were finishing at the 15 yard line, the wind ripped someones target off the stand and it flew over the berm never to be seen again. With a spare 50 rounds, he was able to re-shoot immediately.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 7:27:43 AM EDT
Do you really need an excuse to have more ammo?

You can never have too much money, too much ammo, or too much BBQ.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 7:45:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By hk940:
so bring 100 rounds in case you have to "share"?

thanks



No, bring 100 rounds in case you have to re-shoot the course due to some unforeseen event - like I took the course on a windy day, and just as we were finishing at the 15 yard line, the wind ripped someones target off the stand and it flew over the berm never to be seen again. With a spare 50 rounds, he was able to re-shoot immediately.



that's new to me.
the CHL target stands i have used are backed with cardboard so that would never hppen.
still an extra box or two is a good idea.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 7:26:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 7:27:19 PM EDT by Gopher]
Some instructors like to have you shoot 50 or so for a warmup. The last time it happened to me was in a large class. I think the instructors just wanted to know who could shoot and who they had to watch during the actual quals.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:33:13 AM EDT
when i took it the instructor let us practice for awhile if we wanted to.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:55:13 AM EDT
I'd bring as much as I can carry. Better be safe, ya know? The range might have to be defended from the Zombie hordes.

On a seperate question - what's with all the reload-hating out there? Am I really going to have to buy factory ammo for my pistol for the first time in years?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:13:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:15:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 9:38:33 AM EDT
Because most of these places police up the brass afterward and only want to reload known once fired brass. One place wouldn't let me use reloads but would sell me theirs. Some will not let you shoot CCI Blazers. Can't have all that aluminum in the brass bucket you know.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 9:58:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mojo:

Originally Posted By Zhukov:

On a seperate question - what's with all the reload-hating out there? Am I really going to have to buy factory ammo for my pistol for the first time in years?





Where's the bunny with pancake on its head when I need one?




Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:03:33 PM EDT
if i read your post correctly, your father is active duty or reserve U.S. military.

if that is the case, then as of 9/1/2005 he does not have to even engage in the pistol qualification. if he has proof of military training for firearms within the last 5 years:

here is the link:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/79R/billtext/HB00685S.HTM

it is Texas Government Code 411.1881.

here is the language of the bill which was passed:

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, is
amended by adding Section 411.1881 to read as follows:
Sec. 411.1881. EXEMPTION FROM INSTRUCTION FOR CERTAIN
PERSONS. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of this
subchapter, a person may not be required to complete the range
instruction portion of a handgun proficiency course to obtain or
renew a concealed handgun license issued under this subchapter if
the person:
(1) is currently serving in or is honorably discharged
from:
(A) the army, navy, air force, coast guard, or
marine corps of the United States or an auxiliary service or reserve
unit of one of those branches of the armed forces; or
(B) the state military forces, as defined by
Section 431.001; and
(2) has, within the five years preceding the date of
the person's application for an original or renewed license, as
applicable, completed a course of training in handgun proficiency
or familiarization as part of the person's service with the armed
forces or state military forces.
(b) The director by rule shall adopt a procedure by which a
license holder who is exempt under Subsection (a) from the range
instruction portion of the handgun proficiency requirement may
submit a form demonstrating the license holder's qualification for
an exemption under that subsection. The form must provide
sufficient information to allow the department to verify whether
the license holder qualifies for the exemption.
SECTION 2. This Act takes effect September 1, 2005.

-----------------
Steve Ou
Spreadfire Arms
Austin, TX
FFL/SOT
www.spreadfirearms.com
TX CHL Instructor
Bushmaster/Glock/Remington Certified Armorer
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 9:38:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2005 9:42:03 AM EDT by hk940]
interesting...

Link Posted: 10/6/2005 10:00:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By photokirk:
Do you really need an excuse to have more ammo?

You can never have too much money, too much ammo, or too much BBQ.



Words to live by right there!!

Also, thanks for all the info concerning the shooting portion of the CHL class. I hope to take the CHL class sometime in the next year.

Link Posted: 10/6/2005 10:11:14 AM EDT
longhorn if you are in Austin let me know when you are ready im a CHL instructor.
Link Posted: 10/7/2005 6:03:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/7/2005 6:14:08 AM EDT by Backstop]

Originally Posted By spreadfirearms:
if i read your post correctly, your father is active duty or reserve U.S. military.

if that is the case, then as of 9/1/2005 he does not have to even engage in the pistol qualification. if he has proof of military training for firearms within the last 5 years:



Also, the renewal is $35 instead of $70 if you can prove mil training within 5 years.

I sent the renewal package off last week, and the instructor told me that it applied to retired mil folks. I called Austin, and the 5 year deal was explained.

I've been out since 96...

EDIT: Have to tell you this.

My renewal class was at Blackhawk, and there were only two of us in the class. I know the folks at Blackhawk fairly well, and when he told me the classroom protion was at his house, I found that weird.

Anyway, my classmate was a SEAL. Yep, I checked his bonafides. Was here on leave. It goes without saying I'm not gonna repeat his name or duty station. I heard some pretty interesting stories about A-stan, Iraq etc. Seemed like a good guy.

Mofo can shoot, too!

Gotta admit it seemed like it turned into a competition, though.

I figure I held my own OK considering I'm twice his age and kinda beat up.

He shot a perfect score (500), I shot 499 - I missed 500 by about 3/4" inch. I threw one freaking bullet! I thought they scored them 10 points each round, but a couple days later I was told no - shrugs I dunno or care.

His group overall was probably 2" or so less than mine.

Yeah I know; the CHL COF is pretty simple.

And I know somebody is gonna call "BS" so call Blackhawk - we renewed on Thurs 29 Sep.
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