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Posted: 1/1/2007 6:49:35 AM EDT
If someone were to loan someone else a handgun for a day of shooting at the range or hunting squirrels in the woods  (the pistol being returned to the owner after range session/hunting day is over) is a pistol purchase permit or CCHP needed?

Thanks
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 11:02:31 AM EDT
[#1]
The way the law reads its any transfer,so technically if its out of your control, yes.

On the range with you standing there? No.  You lend it to them and they go to the range without you?  Technically, yes.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:10:52 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
The way the law reads its any transfer,so technically if its out of your control, yes.

On the range with you standing there? No.  You lend it to them and they go to the range without you?  Technically, yes.


I'd at least get a permit from them to hold on to until the pistol is returned.

All sorts of nightmare liability issues pop up in my head. I'm sure you wouldn't lend it to someone you suspected may commit crimes with it so you wouldn't need to worry about that. But a traffic stop, game warden, accident, theft, etc...
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:16:50 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The way the law reads its any transfer,so technically if its out of your control, yes.

On the range with you standing there? No.  You lend it to them and they go to the range without you?  Technically, yes.


I'd at least get a permit from them to hold on to until the pistol is returned.

All sorts of nightmare liability issues pop up in my head. I'm sure you wouldn't lend it to someone you suspected may commit crimes with it so you wouldn't need to worry about that. But a traffic stop, game warden, accident, theft, etc...


I dont see it being issue in the case of a theft or during a traffic stop.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 1:22:43 PM EDT
[#4]
I think this is pretty much a "technically" because it would only come up if the person with the loaned pistol or the person that loaned it somehow brought it to the attention of the authorities that a transfer had taken place.

Or if the loaned pistol was used in a crime and the BATFE traced it to the FFL that sold it and the loaner was the first purchaser.

The whole pistol purchase permit is nonsense.  It was designed to allow the 'high sheriff' to deny pistols to 'undesirables' (blacks and Republicans) rather than any crime control.

NICS makes it totally redundant, except for where 'high sheriffs' use it for the original purpose of the law.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 1:37:29 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I think this is pretty much a "technically" because it would only come up if the person with the loaned pistol or the person that loaned it somehow brought it to the attention of the authorities that a transfer had taken place.

Or if the loaned pistol was used in a crime and the BATFE traced it to the FFL that sold it and the loaner was the first purchaser.

The whole pistol purchase permit is nonsense.  It was designed to allow the 'high sheriff' to deny pistols to 'undesirables' (blacks and Republicans) rather than any crime control.

NICS makes it totally redundant, except for where 'high sheriffs' use it for the original purpose of the law.


Totally agree.

However were it me I would do something to cover my own ass JIC.
Link Posted: 1/3/2007 12:06:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Okay so it's a no-go without a permit (purchase/CCH)
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