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Posted: 12/14/2010 8:12:44 AM EDT
Just announced that our mayor shot himself in the chest and is dead.



http://www.sj-r.com/breaking/x860697770/Shooting-investigation-under-way-at-mayors-home



 
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 9:12:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Probably had something to do with his handling of his cousins estate.

Link Posted: 12/14/2010 9:46:06 AM EDT
[#2]
Did he have a FOID on record? What was his affiliation?
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 10:34:51 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm jaded enough to assume a scandal is about to break.

Sad for his family, though. :(

Larry
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 12:26:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Did he have a FOID on record? What was his affiliation?


FOID? I'll bet a dollar the answer is no. Party affiliation? The fact that you have to ask means he's a democrat. If he was a republican the headline would be " The republican mayor of Springfield Illinois, who is currently under investigation for blah, blah, blah, killed himself with a gun today...."

Link Posted: 12/14/2010 1:47:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Did he have a FOID on record? What was his affiliation?


FOID? I'll bet a dollar the answer is no. Party affiliation? The fact that you have to ask means he's a democrat. If he was a republican the headline would be " The republican mayor of Springfield Illinois, who is currently under investigation for blah, blah, blah, killed himself with AN ASSAULT REVOLVER/DERRINGER/LEVER ACTION RIFLE today...."



Fixed that for you....


Larry
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 2:32:35 PM EDT
[#6]


I saw that somewhere and for half a second I thought it read something about Governor and felt a just a bit of pleasure course through my veins.



Ah well, either way, he took the coward's way out.


Link Posted: 12/14/2010 2:36:37 PM EDT
[#7]
All the Davlin's are lifelong Dems. I personally know one of his brothers and he is a great guy and retired LEO. I feel so sad for his family and especially his children who forever will hate Christmas because of what he did. Yes there was a small scandal breaking dating back to before he was mayor. Whatever his reasons I don't think it was worth killing yourself over. Oh and by the way at least two of the brothers liked guns, so they were not gun grabbing Dems.
Link Posted: 12/15/2010 8:00:10 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
All the Davlin's are lifelong Dems. I personally know one of his brothers and he is a great guy and retired LEO. I feel so sad for his family and especially his children who forever will hate Christmas because of what he did. Yes there was a small scandal breaking dating back to before he was mayor. Whatever his reasons I don't think it was worth killing yourself over. Oh and by the way at least two of the brothers liked guns, so they were not gun grabbing Dems.


agree, he was a regular joe
r.i.p.

Link Posted: 12/16/2010 7:44:47 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I saw that somewhere and for half a second I thought it read something about Governor and felt a just a bit of pleasure course through my veins.

Ah well, either way, he took the coward's way out.




"Took the coward's way out"

Have you ever had your world cave in around you?  Been worried about disgracing your family?  Been looking at prison time?  Or had a family member commit suicide?  

I know in advance this is going to come off the wrong way, but if you would answer the above questions with a "no", then just STFU!
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 9:18:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I saw that somewhere and for half a second I thought it read something about Governor and felt a just a bit of pleasure course through my veins.

Ah well, either way, he took the coward's way out.




"Took the coward's way out"

Have you ever had your world cave in around you?  Been worried about disgracing your family?  Been looking at prison time?  Or had a family member commit suicide?  

I know in advance this is going to come off the wrong way, but if you would answer the above questions with a "no", then just STFU!


Yes, that came off the wrong way.  For a moment, I thought you were suggesting that it's OK to run away, escape, and not take personal responsibility for your own actions.  I know that's not what you meant.

I also thought you might have meant that it's understandable to leave your family behind to cope with the aftermath of your personal destruction with no answers, and I know that's not what you meant either.

I think what you really meant was you hoped people would feel more symathetic about the tragedy befalling the family in the wake of this man's irresponsible actions, and thoughtless solution.  I know that's what you really meant, right?

Edited for spelling.

Link Posted: 12/16/2010 10:11:43 AM EDT
[#11]

I know in advance this is going to come off the wrong way, but if you would answer the above questions with a "no", then just STFU![/quote]

Yes, that came off the wrong way.  For a moment, I thought you were suggesting that it's OK to run away, escape, and not take personal responsibility for your own actions.  I know that's not what you meant.

I also thought you might have meant that it's understandable to leave your family behind to cope with the aftermath of your personal destruction with no answers, and I know that's not what you meant either.

I think what you really meant was you hoped people would feel more symathetic about the tragedy befalling the family in the wake of this man's irresponsible actions, and thoughtless solution.  I know that's what you really meant, right?

Edited for spelling.

[/div]

Why yes, you are right.  I can't imagine what I was thinking.  Or maybe you just have a magical Disney life.  Not you, nor a relative or a friend has ever been mentally ill or terminally ill, but then that wouldn't matter.  You have such a firm grasp on things you could just cruise through it.  I really hope I do not know you.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 10:39:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

I know in advance this is going to come off the wrong way, but if you would answer the above questions with a "no", then just STFU!


Yes, that came off the wrong way.  For a moment, I thought you were suggesting that it's OK to run away, escape, and not take personal responsibility for your own actions.  I know that's not what you meant.

I also thought you might have meant that it's understandable to leave your family behind to cope with the aftermath of your personal destruction with no answers, and I know that's not what you meant either.

I think what you really meant was you hoped people would feel more symathetic about the tragedy befalling the family in the wake of this man's irresponsible actions, and thoughtless solution.  I know that's what you really meant, right?

Edited for spelling.

[/div]

Why yes, you are right.  I can't imagine what I was thinking.  Or maybe you just have a magical Disney life.  Not you, nor a relative or a friend has ever been mentally ill or terminally ill, but then that wouldn't matter.  You have such a firm grasp on things you could just cruise through it.  I really hope I do not know you.

[/quote]

I have myself been touched personally by suicide twice.

It has nothing to do with being a coward, or taking the easy way out. It is due to chemical imbalances, namingly the big one, serotonin.

Human instinct=survival even in the most abhorrent of human conditions i.e. Stalingrad, Zulu, whatever. It takes a chemical imbalance for one to end their own life and deep, crushing depression.

If you are seeking any sort of objectivity, intelligence, enlightenment or an even greater stretch, human compassion, you are looking in the wrong place my friend
.[/quote]



Link Posted: 12/16/2010 10:50:38 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Did he have a FOID on record? What was his affiliation?


FOID? I'll bet a dollar the answer is no. Party affiliation? The fact that you have to ask means he's a democrat. If he was a republican the headline would be " The republican mayor of Springfield Illinois, who is currently under investigation for blah, blah, blah, killed himself with a gun today...."



Funny, Jack Franks is a Democrat and has a FOID. I have seen it. Ironically, Jack each and every time comes out as more of a conservative than his colleague Pam Althoff a "Republican"
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:04:36 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:

I know in advance this is going to come off the wrong way, but if you would answer the above questions with a "no", then just STFU!


Yes, that came off the wrong way.  For a moment, I thought you were suggesting that it's OK to run away, escape, and not take personal responsibility for your own actions.  I know that's not what you meant.

I also thought you might have meant that it's understandable to leave your family behind to cope with the aftermath of your personal destruction with no answers, and I know that's not what you meant either.

I think what you really meant was you hoped people would feel more symathetic about the tragedy befalling the family in the wake of this man's irresponsible actions, and thoughtless solution.  I know that's what you really meant, right?

Edited for spelling.

[/div]

Why yes, you are right.  I can't imagine what I was thinking.  Or maybe you just have a magical Disney life.  Not you, nor a relative or a friend has ever been mentally ill or terminally ill, but then that wouldn't matter.  You have such a firm grasp on things you could just cruise through it.  I really hope I do not know you.



I have myself been touched personally by suicide twice.

It has nothing to do with being a coward, or taking the easy way out. It is due to chemical imbalances, namingly the big one, serotonin.

Human instinct=survival even in the most abhorrent of human conditions i.e. Stalingrad, Zulu, whatever. It takes a chemical imbalance for one to end their own life and deep, crushing depression.

If you are seeking any sort of objectivity, intelligence, enlightenment or an even greater stretch, human compassion, you are looking in the wrong place my friend
.[/quote]



[/quote]

Patriot73

Yes, you are correct on all counts.  If you notice my post count, I post very little around here because of the large number of armchair experts, commandos, snipers, seals, geniuses, tough guys, etc.  Just insert the required term.  This one just hit me because of either the thoughtless attitude, haste, or just plain insensitivity it takes to post crap like that.  Or maybe my favorite term applies........school must be out.

thank you

Link Posted: 12/17/2010 5:44:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Didn't one of Clinton's law firm buddies shoot himself in the head with a shotgun.....twice.....and then put himself in a trunk....
Link Posted: 12/17/2010 6:23:03 PM EDT
[#16]
My heart goes out to Mark Madoff, J. Clifford Baxter & R. Budd Dwyer.  If only they were able to get help for their depression.
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