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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:01:41 AM EST
Anybody know where the best prices are on powders and primers in the metro Phoenix area? I'm looking for 8lb or more on rifle propellants (win 748 etc.) , 5k sleeve of primers. Buying online with the hazmat fees is not economical. Thanks in advance.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:33:46 AM EST
I've heard that Sportsman's Warehouse has the best prices on bulk supplies. If you're on that side of town, it's worth checking out.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:35:10 AM EST
Brunos and Walmart.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:39:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
Brunos and Walmart.





What the hell is Brunos? And since when did Wally World, Who I don't support, start carrying 748? Aka the temperaturally unstable powder!
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 9:12:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2004 9:16:01 AM EST by coyote3]
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 9:15:02 AM EST
Wally World in Scottsdale now has powder, primers and Hornady and Sierra bullets.

Now I can have the wife pick up tweenkies, milk and primers.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 9:27:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2004 9:27:34 AM EST by markm]
I don't do Wally World or Twinkies.

Both are Bad Joo Joo!
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 9:49:35 AM EST
Randells at 51st ave. and olive has a good reloading stock.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 3:38:47 PM EST
Geez, thanks for all the replies hem

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
Brunos and Walmart.



hat



markm, what's wrong with 748? Is it a storage issue or something worse? I'd like to try other powders but 748 has been very reliable for me. And I store it in the garage where it gets pretty hot in the summers.

Link Posted: 10/28/2004 3:53:44 PM EST
I know Dillon has all that stuff but I honestly don't know about prices but you can call them.

-John
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:03:34 PM EST
Yeah, forgot Dillon. They don't have them in their catalog as far as I can see but I don't look much beyond the cover
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:26:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By cmm:

markm, what's wrong with 748? Is it a storage issue or something worse? I'd like to try other powders but 748 has been very reliable for me. And I store it in the garage where it gets pretty hot in the summers.



Nothing. I use 748. I don't like wally world or twinkies. that's all.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:28:18 PM EST
748 is downright spooky when the temperature goes up.

Your medium loads at 80 degrees will cause case seperation when it's 105.

I saw lots of bad things happen with 748 at 3 gun matches.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:49:25 PM EST



I've been buying most of my supplies at Dillion's and gun shows.

I have bought some from Brunos. I may check into Sportsmans Warehouse.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:51:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
748 is downright spooky when the temperature goes up.

Your medium loads at 80 degrees will cause case seperation when it's 105.

I saw lots of bad things happen with 748 at 3 gun matches.



That was caused by Bad Joo Joo! I load it 100 fps back of M193's 3250 fps.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:54:06 PM EST
Mark,

Let your loaded mag sit out in the sun for 20 minutes in July then fire a few rounds. I'll help you get the primers out of the fcg.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:55:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
Mark,

Let your loaded mag sit out in the sun for 20 minutes in July then fire a few rounds. I'll help you get the primers out of the fcg.



I'll take that challenge!
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 5:32:30 PM EST
I've shot 748 loads in the heat of the summer in the desert (110-115deg) with no problems. I usually let my mags loaded with ammo sit in the vehicle so I know they are pretty hot by the time I load them into the rifle. Of course I use light to medium range loads so that may explain my trouble free experience.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 5:34:33 PM EST
Me too. My loads are hotter than say, UMC .223, but still around the 3140 fps range. Just hot enough to start flattening the primer, but not as flat as XM193. Room for error, I leave.... mmmm.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 5:45:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2004 5:45:48 PM EST by innocent_bystander]
I'm going to give Ramshot TAC a try. It is the powder that Blackhills is using in their 5.56 and 7.62 loads.

I've chatted with the factory and TAC was designed as a 7.62 ball propellant for use in automatic weapons. As such it was designed with extreme temperature insensitivity in mind.

Ask around one of the highpower boards about 748. It's a bitch to light when it's cold and shows pressure signs early when it's hot.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 6:05:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
I'm going to give Ramshot TAC a try. It is the powder that Blackhills is using in their 5.56 and 7.62 loads.

I've chatted with the factory and TAC was designed as a 7.62 ball propellant for use in automatic weapons. As such it was designed with extreme temperature insensitivity in mind.

Ask around one of the highpower boards about 748. It's a bitch to light when it's cold and shows pressure signs early when it's hot.



Know of any places locally that have Ramshot TAC? This company looks interesting.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 6:27:36 PM EST
Sportsman's Whorehouse and Brunos have TAC.
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