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Posted: 1/13/2006 3:36:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 3:37:26 AM EST by rkbar15]

Silver Ramps Up His Call To Enact Sweeping Gun-Control Legislation

By RUSSELL BERMAN - Staff Reporter of the Sun

January 13, 2006

The speaker of the state Assembly, Sheldon Silver, yesterday ramped
up his call for the state Senate and the governor to enact sweeping
gun-control legislation passed by the Assembly earlier this week.

Mr. Silver, a Democrat of Manhattan, chided the Republican-led state
Senate and the U.S. Congress for not acting on anti-gun bills,
suggesting "the radical gun lobby has greater sway in Washington than
does the safety of our citizens."

A little more than a month after two city police officers were shot
down within a week of each other, the speaker focused his rhetoric on
a bill to ban armor piercing "cop-killer" ammunition.

"Explain to me how we can care enough to provide our police officers
with bullet-proof vests, while being careless enough to allow the
legal sale of armor-piercing bullets," Mr. Silver said yesterday,
standing in front of City Hall alongside the City Council speaker,
Christine Quinn, and more than a dozen other elected officials and
gun control advocates. "What does it say about this government's
leadership? Where is the moral outrage?"

Mr. Silver's statements brought sharp rebukes from aides to Governor
Pataki and the state Senate majority leader, Joseph Bruno.

"New York already has the toughest gun-control laws in the nation," a
spokesman for Mr. Bruno, Mark Hansen, said. He added that Mr. Silver
is "trying to distract attention away from the fact that he is the
one person standing in the way of enacting the death penalty for the
killing of police officers."

The heated exchange highlights the division in the debate over how
best to fight violent crime, as gun-control advocates battle those
who say stiff penalties and strict enforcement - not more regulation
- will deter criminals.

Messrs. Bruno and Pataki last month pushed to make the murder of a
police officer a capital crime. Assembly Democrats, including Mr.
Silver, balked at the move, and the Legislature instead passed a bill
mandating a life sentence for the killing of officers.

With the governor's support, lawmakers also enacted a package of
bills to stiffen penalties for illegal gun possession and sales, but
Democrats in the Assembly said the new laws do not go far enough and
on Monday approved an additional slate of measures.

The bill targeting "cop-killer" ammunition would ban bullets designed
to fragment or explode upon impact. Among the eight other bills
passed by the Assembly were measures that would ban certain types of
"assault" and sniper weapons and make it illegal for a felon
convicted of a violent crime to own a rifle or a shotgun.

"When I read about the bills that got passed in Albany, I was shocked
some of them aren't the law already," Ms. Quinn said yesterday. "How
can it be that a convicted felon can get a gun in this city and
state? That's just wrong, and it puts New Yorkers in danger."

Other acts would strengthen childproofing requirements for guns,
heighten requirements on ballistics tracking, and toughen
record-keeping regulations on gun sales.

A spokeswoman for the governor, Mollie Fullington, did not say
whether Mr. Pataki would support the bills, but criticized Mr. Silver
for holding up earlier measures aimed at gun trafficking.

The stepped-up efforts to enact stricter gun control laws come as
Mayor Bloomberg has made stopping the flow of illegal guns into New
York a top priority early in his second term.

The gun lobby has attacked the push as misguided, saying the better
move would be to beef up enforcement of gun laws already on the books.

"A crime is a crime. No matter how many laws you pass, a criminal, by
definition of the word criminal, is not going to follow the law," the
president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Thomas
King, said. The group is the state affiliate of the National Rifle
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 3:42:48 AM EST
"close a loophole that allows felons to buy firearms."



January 13, 2006 -- Democratic lawmakers gathered on the steps of City Hall yesterday to urge the Republican-led state Senate to return to Albany and take up gun-control bills, including one to ban "cop-killer" bullets.

Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan) said even though Gov. Pataki and state lawmakers united in stiffening penalties for gun traffickers last month, the job wasn't done.

"Could it be that our friends in the state Senate or in the Governor's Office are more concerned about protecting their contributions from the NRA than they are our law-enforcement officers?" Silver said.

The lawmakers urged action on a nine-bill package, passed by the Assembly Monday, that would ban armor-piercing bullets and close a loophole that allows felons to buy firearms. Frankie Edozien
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 3:53:07 AM EST
I had no clue either officer was killed by armor piercing bullets. I'm sure he is mistakenly referring to hollow-points, as many people do, as able to penetrate a bullet-RESISTANT vest. Besides, let's all concentrate on stopping the GUNS from getting in the hands of PEOPLE, rather than stop the guns from getting into the hands of the WRONG people or punishing those WRONG people harshly.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 3:58:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 4:00:48 AM EST by Beltfed]
Silver is a complete ass............but honestly sorry to say, Spitzer has the election in a basket.

Slowly but surely.

As we all can see Lib. Democrats don't care about the facts.

Put them in control and they'll pass any ant-gun legislation that comes their way without even thinking about it.

Link Posted: 1/13/2006 4:15:24 AM EST
According to the NYSRPA this is the extent of the "debate" on the frangible ammunition bill:


A-2837, Includes possession of armor piercing, frangible or "devastator" ammunition as criminal possession of a weapon.

David Koon speaks in favor of his bill.
Redefines AP ammo as polymer-tipped and frangible
Dan Burling speaks in opposition.
Dan, is this ammo a problem?
David, AP already banned.
Dan, is this currently being used?
David, no. Can penetrate body armor.
Dan, so no evidence of police vests
penetrated? What is currently defined as AP?
David, gives definition.
Dan, has .45. Most rifle ammo will go through vests.
David, bill is just for handguns.
Dan, will .500 S&W go through police vest? Yes, it will.
Dan, on the bill, no evidence this is a problem, not bill is needed.
Voting begins, passes 95-35.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 3:32:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/14/2006 3:37:06 AM EST by P400]

Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan) said even though Gov. Pataki and state lawmakers united in stiffening penalties for gun traffickers last month, the job wasn't done.

"Could it be that our friends in the state Senate or in the Governor's Office are more concerned about protecting their contributions from the NRA than they are our law-enforcement officers?" Silver said.

Yeah, what about all of Silver's assembly members who have accepted money from NYAGV or Brady?

Between Silver and Bloomberg, I'm sick of NY libs blaming the NRA. I hope that it causes the NRA to focus on NY and go after these idiots now.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 3:41:19 PM EST

In our dreams. I am finding that SCOPE and NYSRPA are the ones to help fight.

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