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Posted: 11/16/2011 11:56:01 AM EDT
Remington 872 with a side saddle mounted.

Can a shotgun, unloaded and without any rounds in it's magazine, but with 5 rounds in the side saddle and in a case, be transported legally?

I would like to have a shotgun in a case but with 5 rounds in the side saddle for easy accessibility. I'm fuzzy if this would be considered transporting with a loaded magazine or not.

Come on you know it alls, give me an answer.

Thanks
Link Posted: 11/16/2011 12:30:26 PM EDT
Yes you may.  The magazine is the tube on a pump shotgun.  The Sidesaddle is just storage that happens to be attached to the receiver.  

How 'bout you get your permit to carry and not have to worry about whether it's properly loaded or not?  
Link Posted: 11/16/2011 2:03:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dawg69:
Yes you may.  The magazine is the tube on a pump shotgun.  The Sidesaddle is just storage that happens to be attached to the receiver.  

How 'bout you get your permit to carry and not have to worry about whether it's properly loaded or not?  


+1

Link Posted: 11/16/2011 2:55:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dawg69:
How 'bout you get your permit to carry and not have to worry about whether it's properly loaded or not?  


Beat me to it
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:45:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kk0g:
Originally Posted By dawg69:
How 'bout you get your permit to carry and not have to worry about whether it's properly loaded or not?  


Beat me to it


Possibly <21?
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:49:20 PM EDT
Is this in regard to hunting?

The DNR folks have their own playbook you may need to research. I have no idea what their answer to your question would be.

When I had my carry permit renewed, about ten minutes of gabbing involved the legality of carrying a loaded shotgun on an ATV. LEO stops you, it's legal. DNR stops you, not legal. The discussion involved driving on county roads.

Is the ammo in the case considered "isolated from the firearm"?
Don't know.

Firearm transportation laws and DNR hunting regulations are not the same thing.



Without a carry permit, I thought firarms and ammunition had to be in seperate areas of a vehicle, such as one in the passenger compartment and the other in the trunk. "Not easily accessible".

Am I mistaken?
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 7:07:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2011 7:07:50 PM EDT by dawg69]
Originally Posted By AR-10:
Is this in regard to hunting?

The DNR folks have their own playbook you may need to research. I have no idea what their answer to your question would be.

When I had my carry permit renewed, about ten minutes of gabbing involved the legality of carrying a loaded shotgun on an ATV. LEO stops you, it's legal. DNR stops you, not legal. The discussion involved driving on county roads.

Is the ammo in the case considered "isolated from the firearm"?
Don't know.

Firearm transportation laws and DNR hunting regulations are not the same thing.



Without a carry permit, I thought firarms and ammunition had to be in seperate areas of a vehicle, such as one in the passenger compartment and the other in the trunk. "Not easily accessible".

Am I mistaken?



Yes, you are mistaken.  There is no mention of proximity of ammo and firearms mentioned in the Code of Iowa aside from the definition of being loaded.  As long as the attached magazine and barrel(s) are unloaded it is considered unloaded.  Now you still must have the weapon cased as well if you don't have a permit.

Probably the reason you had issues with DNR is that you can't have a loaded weapon on an ATV even with a permit (see memo below).  It's a ridiculous law that needs to be addressed in a coming session.  And no, the DNR doesn't have their own playbook.  It's called the Code of Iowa and the Iowa Administrative Code––the same one that all officers enforce.  If the DNR is stepping outside of these bounds, then it needs to be addressed to knock the crap off.

And just for reference for all here: DNR's memo in reference to Iowa permits to carry.
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