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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:12:43 PM EDT
Hey all,
I just wanted to find out the legality of heading off into the woods and shooting... I see videos of folks online all the time where they are out in the bush having a great time, and was wondering if it would be legal to do here in Florida. I live in Orlando, but wouldn't mind driving about an hour out. I have done research and cant find a definitive answer as to where I can head off into the bush and shoot. the most i have been able to find is that I should be fine on private land with the owners permission, but i dont know anyone that has a large plot of land. Thanks all, Red. |
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Private land is probably the only option...that said total lack of backstop would and should worry the shit outta ya...
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Really....... You think you can just walk into woods and shoot? First of all lets pretend that you can discharge a weapon outside without breaking the law. Would you let people stand in your front our backyard to shoot? You most likely would tell them to go to their own yard right? Ok so that covers the point of shooting on land you own(unless legit permitted hunting in public land during open season). Second even if you own land you need a certain number of acres and a backstop or its still unlawful discharge. I was once told by someone that i know that does shoot on private land that its 20 or more acres needed to meet some statues.
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Gabe doesn't know what he's talking about, hence I heard from so and so. You can shoot on your own private land or someone else's private land with their permission. However, your projectiles cannot leave said property, so a great backstop and responsible shooting are required. There are no acreage limits or requirements. |
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Most of the land you see is private. The rest is government land. No going off
into government owned land and shooting. Going onto private land without permission armed is armed trespassing. |
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Um, me tinks permission means a written note carried on your person,
or you can still get armed trespassing. FWC here are a bunch of dickwads. |
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Private land with some sort of back stop. FL is way too crowded.
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If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony.
All the "Woods" is owned by somebody and if you get caught and they press charges your fucked. OP the only choices you have is buy your own property,find someone that will give you written permission to shoot on their property( good luck on this one ) or go to a range and pay like everyone else that has no land and wants to shoot. It sucks but that's the way it is. |
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You are talking guns, RIGHT ??
Photography is something different,.......... I mean............. BUSH ?? ..... {why did I read this tread} |
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If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. All the "Woods" is owned by somebody and if you get caught and they press charges your fucked. OP the only choices you have is buy your own property,find someone that will give you written permission to shoot on their property( good luck on this one ) or go to a range and pay like everyone else that has no land and wants to shoot. It sucks but that's the way it is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. All the "Woods" is owned by somebody and if you get caught and they press charges your fucked. OP the only choices you have is buy your own property,find someone that will give you written permission to shoot on their property( good luck on this one ) or go to a range and pay like everyone else that has no land and wants to shoot. It sucks but that's the way it is. If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. |
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Gabe doesn't know what he's talking about, hence I heard from so and so. You can shoot on your own private land or someone else's private land with their permission. However, your projectiles cannot leave said property, so a great backstop and responsible shooting are required. There are no acreage limits or requirements. View Quote This is the correct information; there is no law in Florida against discharging a weapon in Florida on your own property, as long as it is done safely. And there are NO local ordinances, other than noise, as Florida pre-empted all local gun laws back in the eighties. There IS a law against NEGLIGENT DISCHARGE, which is usually proven when your projectiles leave your property and endanger someone or their property. I routinely test fire guns I'm working on into a dirt pile on my little half acre in the middle of the city. Cops stopped by once to check it out when they were working close by and heard the shot. No big deal. Shooting is forbidden on all public property that I know of, Target Practice is specifically forbidden on Wildlife Management Areas, except during hunts, at game. Where are you? Why don't you just find a range nearby? |
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Quoted: Incorrect. Florida's trespeass statutes are very detailed. Absent signage, fencing, cultivation, etc. the property owner has effectively invited you onto his property. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0800-0899/0810/Sections/0810.09.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. All the "Woods" is owned by somebody and if you get caught and they press charges your fucked. OP the only choices you have is buy your own property,find someone that will give you written permission to shoot on their property( good luck on this one ) or go to a range and pay like everyone else that has no land and wants to shoot. It sucks but that's the way it is. If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. Nope, a friend got a ticket driving on private property. He went before the judge and said he did not know he was trespassing as there were no signs. The judge asked him if it was his land. Friend said no and the judge said then you know you were trespassing and fined him around 150 bucks. Most "land" is fenced anyway. |
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Incorrect. Florida's trespeass statutes are very detailed. Absent signage, fencing, cultivation, etc. the property owner has effectively invited you onto his property. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0800-0899/0810/Sections/0810.09.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. All the "Woods" is owned by somebody and if you get caught and they press charges your fucked. OP the only choices you have is buy your own property,find someone that will give you written permission to shoot on their property( good luck on this one ) or go to a range and pay like everyone else that has no land and wants to shoot. It sucks but that's the way it is. If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. Add Navigable Waterway to your list. A deputy added it to mine way back 25 or 30 years ago as he wrote me a notice to appear for arraignment on one of my youthful "Hunting expeditions" . Step out of a boat onto land, same as crossing a fence in Florida. Lucky for me and my friends, the State Attorney didn't feel it was worth Pursuing and asked the Judge to dismiss. |
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Nope, a friend got a ticket driving on private property. He went before the judge and said he did not know he was trespassing as there were no signs. The judge asked him if it was his land. Friend said no and the judge said then you know you were trespassing and fined him around 150 bucks. Most "land" is fenced anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. All the "Woods" is owned by somebody and if you get caught and they press charges your fucked. OP the only choices you have is buy your own property,find someone that will give you written permission to shoot on their property( good luck on this one ) or go to a range and pay like everyone else that has no land and wants to shoot. It sucks but that's the way it is. If you don't have permission to go on someones property and you are armed it's a felony. Nope, a friend got a ticket driving on private property. He went before the judge and said he did not know he was trespassing as there were no signs. The judge asked him if it was his land. Friend said no and the judge said then you know you were trespassing and fined him around 150 bucks. Most "land" is fenced anyway. Well, not knowing the specifics of his case, I cannot comment, other than to say the judge needs to read the statute and apply the facts of the case to the actual law and not base a ruling on his personal opinion. Most "land" is fenced anyway. |
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Quoted: Well, not knowing the specifics of his case, I cannot comment, other than to say the judge needs to read the statute and apply the facts of the case to the actual law and not base a ruling on his personal opinion. Really? I hunt in the middle of about 3 million acres of nothing but woods. Have not seen but one or two 'fences'. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Well, not knowing the specifics of his case, I cannot comment, other than to say the judge needs to read the statute and apply the facts of the case to the actual law and not base a ruling on his personal opinion. Most "land" is fenced anyway. In FL? I feel the judge is correct. Where is this land you hunt on? I would like to hunt there since you say it is ok to do so. I would like to add that signage is on any large pieces of land around here fenced or not fenced. Land around here is owned by the Phosphate companies and is heavily fenced now days. |
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{TRIM} In FL? I feel the judge is correct. Where is this land you hunt on? I would like to hunt there since you say it is ok to do so. I would like to add that signage is on any large pieces of land around here fenced or not fenced. Land around here is owned by the Phosphate companies and is heavily fenced now days. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
{TRIM} In FL? I feel the judge is correct. Where is this land you hunt on? I would like to hunt there since you say it is ok to do so. I would like to add that signage is on any large pieces of land around here fenced or not fenced. Land around here is owned by the Phosphate companies and is heavily fenced now days. In FL? I feel the judge is correct. I would like to hunt there since you say it is ok to do so. |
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Quoted: Yes You are entitled to 'feel' anyway you choose. How does it 'feel' to be wrong. I said nothing of the kind. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: {TRIM} In FL? I feel the judge is correct. Where is this land you hunt on? I would like to hunt there since you say it is ok to do so. I would like to add that signage is on any large pieces of land around here fenced or not fenced. Land around here is owned by the Phosphate companies and is heavily fenced now days. In FL? I feel the judge is correct. I would like to hunt there since you say it is ok to do so. Creating all the block is keeping me from quoting you properly. That statute is very gray and full of holes and you know it. 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is. Is it owned by a single person or organization? |
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{TRIM} 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is. Is it owned by a single person or organization? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
{TRIM} 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is. Is it owned by a single person or organization? That statute is very gray and full of holes and you know it. 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is |
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Quoted: Actually, it's one of the better written statutes on the books. It is very, very clear and specific. I'm sure you would. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: {TRIM} 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is. Is it owned by a single person or organization? That statute is very gray and full of holes and you know it. 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is Afraid I will google earth it? |
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You're about 40 years too late for that. View Quote shit in the lee county area only 20-25 years ago people use to go shooting in all the undeveloped parts of cape coral and never got bothered. shit everyone down here wen't shooting in random woods. shame everything is so over-developed now. |
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Quoted: shit in the lee county area only 20-25 years ago people use to go shooting in all the undeveloped parts of cape coral and never got bothered. shit everyone down here wen't shooting in random woods. shame everything is so over-developed now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You're about 40 years too late for that. shit in the lee county area only 20-25 years ago people use to go shooting in all the undeveloped parts of cape coral and never got bothered. shit everyone down here wen't shooting in random woods. shame everything is so over-developed now. Keeps you working though. got to look at the bright side. |
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Keeps you working though. got to look at the bright side. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You're about 40 years too late for that. shit in the lee county area only 20-25 years ago people use to go shooting in all the undeveloped parts of cape coral and never got bothered. shit everyone down here wen't shooting in random woods. shame everything is so over-developed now. Keeps you working though. got to look at the bright side. this is true. i was a baby when things were like this anyway so it's not like i can miss anything. |
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In FL? 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is. Is it owned by a single person or organization? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yes 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is. Is it owned by a single person or organization? Quoted:
I'm sure you would. Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on the 3 million acres thing. There isn't 3 million contiguous acres of "nothing but woods" anywhere in the state. The ONF is a bit over 425k acres, the Apalachicola NF is about 575k, and Everglades National Park is about 1.5 million acres. Those are the three biggest contiguous 'green areas' in the state. 3 million acres would be everything in Florida south of State Road 80, and that still probably wouldn't be quite enough. Of course, I don't know why I'm bothering, since you're just going to say "Yes it is" and refuse to give any more details about where it is, leaving us at stalemate. |
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Quoted: Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on the 3 million acres thing. There isn't 3 million contiguous acres of "nothing but woods" anywhere in the state. The ONF is a bit over 425k acres, the Apalachicola NF is about 575k, and Everglades National Park is about 1.5 million acres. Those are the three biggest contiguous 'green areas' in the state. 3 million acres would be everything in Florida south of State Road 80, and that still probably wouldn't be quite enough. Of course, I don't know why I'm bothering, since you're just going to say "Yes it is" and refuse to give any more details about where it is, leaving us at stalemate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In FL? Quoted: Yes 3 million acres is nearly 10 time larger than the Ocala national forest I would sure like to know where that is. Is it owned by a single person or organization? Quoted: I'm sure you would. Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on the 3 million acres thing. There isn't 3 million contiguous acres of "nothing but woods" anywhere in the state. The ONF is a bit over 425k acres, the Apalachicola NF is about 575k, and Everglades National Park is about 1.5 million acres. Those are the three biggest contiguous 'green areas' in the state. 3 million acres would be everything in Florida south of State Road 80, and that still probably wouldn't be quite enough. Of course, I don't know why I'm bothering, since you're just going to say "Yes it is" and refuse to give any more details about where it is, leaving us at stalemate. kinda like some folks who will buy 1-5 acres land locked or butted up to a wma/forest(like onf) and act like the few 100 around them is theirs.... |
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Kind of irresponsible son't you think OP to start shooting in the FL woods randomly considering how flat we are? Not to mention that whole Rule#4 thing...
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this all boils down to either having permission from a landowner, or owning your own land.
I asked because i usually go to the Strickland range out in Daytona, but they are closed until at least November. I go to the shoot straights occasionally, but you can only do so much at a 25 yard range. I am relatively new to the area, and am having a hard time finding alternate ranges that are open to the public and have at least a 100 yard rifle range. I look enviously at the people online that have their own land/are able to shoot out in the open on public land and can shoot to their hearts content. I lived in South Africa for a long period of time, and when we had the urge to go shoot we always went to one of the big gold mine dumps. Huge hills of sand. They used arsenic in the gold extraction process, so nothing would grow on them either. Thanks for all the helpful info guys, much apreciated. |
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this all boils down to either having permission from a landowner, or owning your own land. I asked because i usually go to the Strickland range out in Daytona, but they are closed until at least November. I go to the shoot straights occasionally, but you can only do so much at a 25 yard range. I am relatively new to the area, and am having a hard time finding alternate ranges that are open to the public and have at least a 100 yard rifle range. I look enviously at the people online that have their own land/are able to shoot out in the open on public land and can shoot to their hearts content. I lived in South Africa for a long period of time, and when we had the urge to go shoot we always went to one of the big gold mine dumps. Huge hills of sand. They used arsenic in the gold extraction process, so nothing would grow on them either. Thanks for all the helpful info guys, much apreciated. View Quote Dont quote me but i believe you can go and shoot a thousand round on Gov/FWC land as long as hunting season is open. Private land id be careful but just check myfwc to see which land you can hunt on and just go there. |
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Quoted: Dont quote me but i believe you can go and shoot a thousand round on Gov/FWC land as long as hunting season is open. Private land id be careful but just check myfwc to see which land you can hunt on and just go there. View Quote Not true at all. There is no target practice allowed on WMA's unless at a designated range. I would go go ballistic if I was anywhere around a person doing that if I was hunting, hiking etc. It would be an extremely dangerous thing to do. |
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I wish FL had some BLM land like they have out west. The most fun I've ever had at a range in FL was in college at the FWC unstaffed range just south of Tallahassee, early in the morning no one was there and I could do whatever I wanted.
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Quoted: I wish FL had some BLM land like they have out west. The most fun I've ever had at a range in FL was in college at the FWC unstaffed range just south of Tallahassee, early in the morning no one was there and I could do whatever I wanted. View Quote The west has mountains and the like. FL is flat. I do agree that as much tax money they get from Gun and ammo sales there should be many more ranges around the state and should include some plinking ranges.. Last time I was at tenoroc I was told they are starting rapid fire days on the 25 yard range. |
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I haven't been, but I have heard good things about Bradford Sportsmen's Farm north of Gainesville. It may be a haul for you, though.
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Dont quote me but i believe you can go and shoot a thousand round on Gov/FWC land as long as hunting season is open. Private land id be careful but just check myfwc to see which land you can hunt on and just go there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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this all boils down to either having permission from a landowner, or owning your own land. I asked because i usually go to the Strickland range out in Daytona, but they are closed until at least November. I go to the shoot straights occasionally, but you can only do so much at a 25 yard range. I am relatively new to the area, and am having a hard time finding alternate ranges that are open to the public and have at least a 100 yard rifle range. I look enviously at the people online that have their own land/are able to shoot out in the open on public land and can shoot to their hearts content. I lived in South Africa for a long period of time, and when we had the urge to go shoot we always went to one of the big gold mine dumps. Huge hills of sand. They used arsenic in the gold extraction process, so nothing would grow on them either. Thanks for all the helpful info guys, much apreciated. Dont quote me but i believe you can go and shoot a thousand round on Gov/FWC land as long as hunting season is open. Private land id be careful but just check myfwc to see which land you can hunt on and just go there. Why do you believe that? Target practice is expressly forbidden on FWC controlled lands. I have lived here all my life, hunted here all my life(53yrs) and am unaware of any place you can " just go shoot". hunting season or no. I guarantee you show up on a management area during hunting season and start blasting, you will soon have more attention than you care for. OP, Here's a link to FWC's Public shooting ranges, Ocala might not be to far for you up off 40. If you want to Join a range, This one is in Volusia County and has a lot going for it,I believe their rifle goes out to 6or 800 yards. |
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It's not just BLM land. National forests are pretty fun to go shooting in too.
It just that most of what is in Florida is ethier a park, part of the parks dept (pretty self important) ,preserves which is pretty self explanatory, or run by the state and to small. |
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