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Posted: 4/29/2004 9:02:06 AM EST
Anybody else hear about the guy that tried to "Suck-Start" a hand gun yesterday.....

Well it worked....
Link Posted: 4/29/2004 10:07:06 AM EST
Didn't hear about that. Any links?
Link Posted: 4/29/2004 10:25:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By 2whiskeyP:
Didn't hear about that. Any links?



I have not went looking...

But from what I was seeing at work, there was not a whole heck of a lot said about it....

Just some guy off'd himself...
Link Posted: 4/29/2004 11:07:42 AM EST
I know these people have some obvious problems...but geez...right in front of other people? It is too bad that others have to witness this individuals choice to end his life. I feel bad for him....but I also feel bad for the people that had to witness it as well.
Link Posted: 4/29/2004 5:49:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By R-32:
Anybody else hear about the guy that tried to "Suck-Start" a hand gun yesterday.....

Well it worked....



Was the last thing he said, "Any gun will do, if you will do"?

All kidding aside couldn't he have gone and bought a gun with a credit card and done this somewhere private? Suicide is selfish enough without making it a public display.
Link Posted: 4/29/2004 10:32:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By bigern:

Originally Posted By R-32:
Anybody else hear about the guy that tried to "Suck-Start" a hand gun yesterday.....

Well it worked....



Was the last thing he said, "Any gun will do, if you will do"?

All kidding aside couldn't he have gone and bought a gun with a credit card and done this somewhere private? Suicide is selfish enough without making it a public display.




No shit!....go off and "feed the animals", But I guess he was a selfish one.
Link Posted: 4/30/2004 12:57:37 PM EST
I called Sams, they told me that no one tried or did off themselves.

I also looked at all of the local papers.
Nadda.
Link Posted: 4/30/2004 6:29:40 PM EST
I've got the family membership there at Sam's.
Now that we're closer to the range, I'll have to use it!

You guys had me going on that story, though.
I was thinkin' "GREAT, that's all we need".
One of my fellow Busmen was asking that we meet up at the range as he hasn't been out shooting for a couple of years.
GLAD the story isn't based in fact.
Link Posted: 4/30/2004 6:32:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:
I called Sams, they told me that no one tried or did off themselves.

I also looked at all of the local papers.
Nadda.



Well I read it in the Everett Herald a couple of days ago.
Link Posted: 4/30/2004 7:16:19 PM EST
Death at gun shop
likely self-inflicted

An Everett area man Wednesday fatally shot himself in a gun shop and shooting range south of Everett, Snohomish County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Jan Jorgensen said. "We don't know if this was a gun he had rented or if it was his own," Jorgensen said. "It appears to be a suicide."

Police received a call of shots fired at 1:25 p.m. at Sam's Gun Shop, 11714 Airport Road. Jorgensen didn't know if the incident occurred in the store or on the shooting range. There were no witnesses, although several people heard the gun go off, she said. The man was in his mid-20s. Leroy McMillon, a sales clerk at Sam's, said the store had no comment on the incident

www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/4/29/18545609.cfm
Link Posted: 4/30/2004 9:12:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Death at gun shop
likely self-inflicted

An Everett area man Wednesday fatally shot himself in a gun shop and shooting range south of Everett, Snohomish County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Jan Jorgensen said. "We don't know if this was a gun he had rented or if it was his own," Jorgensen said. "It appears to be a suicide."

Police received a call of shots fired at 1:25 p.m. at Sam's Gun Shop, 11714 Airport Road. Jorgensen didn't know if the incident occurred in the store or on the shooting range. There were no witnesses, although several people heard the gun go off, she said. The man was in his mid-20s. Leroy McMillon, a sales clerk at Sam's, said the store had no comment on the incident

www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/4/29/18545609.cfm



There's old Leroy with the company line. /smirk
Link Posted: 4/30/2004 10:44:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/30/2004 11:07:24 PM EST by R-32]

Originally Posted By KA3B:
I called Sams, they told me that no one tried or did off themselves.

I also looked at all of the local papers.
Nadda.




I wonder if they would have said different if you would have ask'd....

"Did some dude stick a gun to his head and pull the trigger?"



And come on!....How can the Sheriffs office say that they do not know if the guy rented the gun or if it was his own?...


Link Posted: 5/1/2004 10:19:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Police received a call of shots fired at 1:25 p.m. at Sam's Gun Shop, 11714 Airport Road.



I can't imagine how this call went down. "911, what is your emergency?" "Yes, someone is shooting a gun!" "What is your location?" "Sam's Gun Range in Everett." "Is this some kind of joke, that is a gun range, of course there will be shots fired."

Still, I find it amazing that this story didn't get more play in the press. The anti-freedom crowd could have had a field day with it, filling the media with all kinds of misinformation. I don't understand how anybody could even attempt suicide......

Scott
(what happened to our signatures BTW?)
Link Posted: 5/1/2004 5:33:51 PM EST
Well, shoot.
Suicides at gun ranges just kill me.

Guess I WILL drop by to find out what happened.
Link Posted: 5/1/2004 6:31:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By Scollins:

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Police received a call of shots fired at 1:25 p.m. at Sam's Gun Shop, 11714 Airport Road.



I can't imagine how this call went down. "911, what is your emergency?" "Yes, someone is shooting a gun!" "What is your location?" "Sam's Gun Range in Everett." "Is this some kind of joke, that is a gun range, of course there will be shots fired."

Still, I find it amazing that this story didn't get more play in the press. The anti-freedom crowd could have had a field day with it, filling the media with all kinds of misinformation. I don't understand how anybody could even attempt suicide......

Scott
(what happened to our signatures BTW?)



Sam's is owned (maybe "was" as my wife said she read his obit. in the paper a while back) by a ex sheriff or Everett PD fella and a lot of the clients there and some of the staff are LEOs. In addition Everett and that area has less antigunners than my area, Edmonds, and to the south. Those may be factors in the way it was played out in the media.
Link Posted: 5/1/2004 7:12:51 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/1/2004 7:44:53 PM EST
I am calling back tomorrow and I am going to use the words "fuck you" more than once.
Link Posted: 5/1/2004 7:50:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:
I am calling back tomorrow and I am going to use the words "fuck you" more than once.



Yeah that will convince them to give out information from now on won't it?
Link Posted: 5/2/2004 8:29:46 AM EST
It will make me feel better .


Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Yeah that will convince them to give out information from now on won't it?

Link Posted: 5/3/2004 8:20:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:
It will make me feel better .


Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Yeah that will convince them to give out information from now on won't it?






Do yo feel better yet?
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 10:01:46 AM EST


Please... socialism has pervaded society to such an extent that you assume this guy was selfish?

You probably don't even realize its socialism.... Capitalism is based on the free trade of labor, goods, ideas. Capitalism is based on the idea that you own your own body.

Socialism says you're owned by the state, and that you owe the state ("community", "society") your labor. Remember in Germany women were admonished to have as many kids to fight for the fatherland as they could. And I'm sure you're familiar with other socialist states where the people work for others.

The idea that this guy owed others his life, and therefore was being selfish by taking it, is pure socialism. Especially given that you know nothing about the actual facts in the case.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 10:51:22 AM EST

Isnt it nice to have our resident troll back? Missed you like a toothache.

The next thing you know he will be trying to teach us why we should all give head and how it has enriched his life.

It has nothing to do with the state moron, its to those you really do owe things to, family and friends, unless you are such a selfish fuckmutt that thinks he is an island.

You know, you are so right, suicide is perfectly acceptable, and you have our permission. Carry on.


Link Posted: 5/6/2004 11:30:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/6/2004 11:32:02 AM EST by R-32]

Originally Posted By DonGalt:

The idea that this guy owed others his life, and therefore was being selfish by taking it, is pure socialism.



Is Trying to live by Gods word also Socialism?....




Especially given that you know nothing about the actual facts in the case.


Don't be so sure of that.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 9:43:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By DonGalt:

Please... socialism has pervaded society to such an extent that you assume this guy was selfish?

You probably don't even realize its socialism.... Capitalism is based on the free trade of labor, goods, ideas. Capitalism is based on the idea that you own your own body.

Socialism says you're owned by the state, and that you owe the state ("community", "society") your labor. Remember in Germany women were admonished to have as many kids to fight for the fatherland as they could. And I'm sure you're familiar with other socialist states where the people work for others.

The idea that this guy owed others his life, and therefore was being selfish by taking it, is pure socialism. Especially given that you know nothing about the actual facts in the case.



Please squeeze your sphincter tighter. When you pass out I like it better. It's selfish to go and kill yourself in front of other people, who you don't know, and make them deal with your brains splattered across the bathroom floor. They have to live with that image and memory.

If you think it's not a selfish act than why don't you go try it yourself and quit being such an uber dick.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 9:46:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By DonGalt:

.... Especially given that you know nothing about the actual facts in the case.



Don't bet on it jackass. You'd be surprised at the stuff I know about. Mainly because your full of shit.
Link Posted: 5/7/2004 7:08:42 AM EST
I heard about it from a Sheriff's dep't handgun training instructor.
Link Posted: 5/7/2004 3:37:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By DonGalt:

Please... socialism has pervaded society to such an extent that you assume this guy was selfish?

You probably don't even realize its socialism.... Capitalism is based on the free trade of labor, goods, ideas. Capitalism is based on the idea that you own your own body.

Socialism says you're owned by the state, and that you owe the state ("community", "society") your labor. Remember in Germany women were admonished to have as many kids to fight for the fatherland as they could. And I'm sure you're familiar with other socialist states where the people work for others.

The idea that this guy owed others his life, and therefore was being selfish by taking it, is pure socialism. Especially given that you know nothing about the actual facts in the case.




Link Posted: 5/8/2004 6:54:51 PM EST
The more I think about this (and other incidents like it), the more it kind of ticks me off.

I have some law enforcement buddies who have described some gun suicide scenes to me in great detail. It even turns their hardened stomachs.

I do think this guy would be kind of selfish to do this, especially if I had my kid in the range with me at the time it happened. I have no idea what drove this guy to the breaking point, but I do think it is BS to do this kind of thing in a public place.

He may have been mentally ill....so I will give him the benefit of doubt. This fact would change the way I would feel about it slightly.
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