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11/20/2019 5:07:11 PM
Posted: 10/24/2006 8:13:08 PM EST
would it be legal to have a pgrip config saiga 12?
Link Posted: 10/25/2006 11:11:12 AM EST
I believe it is fully legal.
The catch would be...
fixed stock, no lug, no flash suppressor.

You can have Two evil features, not three. Detach mag and Pgrip are evil.
Link Posted: 10/25/2006 11:35:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
I believe it is fully legal.
The catch would be...
fixed stock, no lug, no flash suppressor.

You can have Two evil features, not three. Detach mag and Pgrip are evil.



damn, id love a folder on it
Link Posted: 10/25/2006 12:07:25 PM EST
Asasult Weapon:

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine

I think we might be SOL...
Link Posted: 10/25/2006 12:40:13 PM EST
gotta go with a thumbhole if you want to be strictly legal.

it's still worth doing the conversion, because even a thumbhole will be much more comfortable than the "hunter" stock.
Link Posted: 10/25/2006 12:48:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By 44rdv4rk:
gotta go with a thumbhole if you want to be strictly legal.

it's still worth doing the conversion, because even a thumbhole will be much more comfortable than the "hunter" stock.


The thumbhole is considered a pistolgrip by the ATF...
Link Posted: 10/25/2006 12:57:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By 0612Devil:

Originally Posted By 44rdv4rk:
gotta go with a thumbhole if you want to be strictly legal.

it's still worth doing the conversion, because even a thumbhole will be much more comfortable than the "hunter" stock.


The thumbhole is considered a pistolgrip by the ATF...


by ATF, but not by the Pistol Permit Bureau in NY, nor the NYS Troopers...ive spoken with both several times about this, but never were willing to send me something in paper on it
Link Posted: 10/25/2006 6:06:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dieter122:

Originally Posted By 0612Devil:

Originally Posted By 44rdv4rk:
gotta go with a thumbhole if you want to be strictly legal.

it's still worth doing the conversion, because even a thumbhole will be much more comfortable than the "hunter" stock.


The thumbhole is considered a pistolgrip by the ATF...


by ATF, but not by the Pistol Permit Bureau in NY, nor the NYS Troopers...ive spoken with both several times about this, but never were willing to send me something in paper on it


But it doesn't really matter in this context does it? The S12 is semi-automatic, has the ability to accept a detachable mag. It's magazine capacity exceeds 5 rounds since 5+ mags are in circulation. Hence adding a pgrip would make it an AW. If that weapon gets confiscated I'm sure it'll go straight to ATF, rather than the NYS Pistol Permit Bureau.
Link Posted: 10/25/2006 7:55:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By 0612Devil:

Originally Posted By Dieter122:

Originally Posted By 0612Devil:

Originally Posted By 44rdv4rk:
gotta go with a thumbhole if you want to be strictly legal.

it's still worth doing the conversion, because even a thumbhole will be much more comfortable than the "hunter" stock.


The thumbhole is considered a pistolgrip by the ATF...


by ATF, but not by the Pistol Permit Bureau in NY, nor the NYS Troopers...ive spoken with both several times about this, but never were willing to send me something in paper on it


But it doesn't really matter in this context does it? The S12 is semi-automatic, has the ability to accept a detachable mag. It's magazine capacity exceeds 5 rounds since 5+ mags are in circulation. Hence adding a pgrip would make it an AW. If that weapon gets confiscated I'm sure it'll go straight to ATF, rather than the NYS Pistol Permit Bureau.


may be in circulation but, if you have no mags over 5 rounds then how does that work?

too much grey area
Link Posted: 10/26/2006 8:07:50 PM EST
Possibly stupid question...
Why would ATF be involved...wouldn't it be the local NY/NJ police issue?

Can u convert a preban ak in to saiga12?
Sorry if these questions sound out there.
I'm just trying to learn.
Chris
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 2:40:50 PM EST
i've been down the s-12 rout in ny ( long island ) no pistol grip is allowed or 8 rd mags either. 5 rd mags is it. have 2 s-12's. great to shoot. lota recoil. have fun, be safe
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 7:53:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By porkchop8u:
i've been down the s-12 rout in ny ( long island ) no pistol grip is allowed or 8 rd mags either. 5 rd mags is it. have 2 s-12's. great to shoot. lota recoil. have fun, be safe


man, they kill the fun...

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