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Posted: 10/18/2006 7:36:35 AM EST
Hey guys, how does the process work for getting an SBR permit? I'm considering going short
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 7:48:40 AM EST
No such thing as a SBR permit.

AR15.com SBR FAQ:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=22&t=199905

Select, copy and paste, and you are there. If you have any questions after the 24 pages in the FAQ, then feel free to address them here or in the class 3 discussion forum.

Link Posted: 10/18/2006 7:53:51 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 8:28:27 AM EST
Thanks Mark,

Sounds like it takes a while. I downloaded the form 1. The paperwork seems pretty straight forward but getting the CLEO signature sounds like a pain in the butt. Thanks for the info (both of you) I'm working on the form now.Jimbo
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 9:01:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 9:31:56 AM EST
The one and only I live in Coweta also. Newnangi's my cousin and I seem to have a case of the SBR bug! From reading thoes directions it sounds like you need 2 form 1's and 2 fingerprints and 2 citizenship forms.....is that it?
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 9:47:18 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 9:48:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 10:21:36 AM EST
"Judge" lives in Fayette...funny thing though....I live in Coweta but on paper I live in Fayette Co..I'm registered to vote there, and have a DL from Fayette. We bought a house in Coweta but we knew we would move back to Fayette eventually so I never changed that stuff...Can he sign it for me for real??!! Good god that would make life easy. He's the County State Court Judge and sees mostly misdomener criminal cases, some felony drug cases. I know that the Sheriff signed his paperwork, would that be because he just could not sign it for himself?
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 11:00:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 11:14:22 AM EST
Cool! Thanks Mark.
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 11:17:23 AM EST
BTW, I am thinking about the 6.8...If I'm going to go to a shorter barrel, I want to have a round that will not bleed off velocity and accuracy at 300meters. From what I've read it sounds like 5.56 looses some ass when you go under 14.5 inches..

Thanks for offering the help with the paperwork...I may take you up on that..I'll email ya...Jimbo
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 5:18:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2006 5:18:55 PM EST by jmarkma]
Well, are there any real negatives in going the Trust route? Seems like there is less hassle for every NFA app after the first vs. going and getting fingerprinted and a sign-off every time.
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 5:26:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 5:39:25 PM EST
If you go the Trust route, I hope you have deep pockets.
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 6:12:19 PM EST
Congrats Jimbo on beginning the "event horizon of the wallet". There's no turning back now. You have chosen the "red pill"...life as you know it is over. Seriously though, I was thoroughly impressed by the 6.8 but the cost of the ammo makes it tough to practice a lot. 5.56 drops roughly 50 feet per second for every 1-inch of barrel you drop off. So if the load you're shooting is NATO spec it should be in the 3200 fps and change realm from a 20-inch and the high 2800's/low 2900's out of an M4 length barrel. It's really not that big of a drop. Once you go under 14.5 strange things start to happen.

-Marty
Link Posted: 10/19/2006 3:43:23 AM EST
Yeah, its all downhill from here Thanks Marty!
Link Posted: 10/19/2006 4:27:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By BookHound:

Originally Posted By jmarkma:
Well, are there any real negatives in going the Trust route? Seems like there is less hassle for every NFA app after the first vs. going and getting fingerprinted and a sign-off every time.


I can't think of any. Contrary to what some people think or speculate, the "trust route" and corporation transfers are NOT something the ATF can decision away. Congress would have to change the law. There is no renewal required. You can easily change it without a lawyer. All perfectly legal. Scares most people because it is so simple. They think "there has to be more to it."

It really is that simple.


Well, when ever I get enough extra dough I know how I will be going.
Link Posted: 10/19/2006 6:19:43 PM EST
Got my First SBR last month. I live in Forsyth County. I went into the Sheriff's office during my Lunch break but he wasn't in. I have the papers to his secretary. She called me about and hour later and said they are signed and ready for me to pick-up. It was painless .... I currently getting ready to do it again with a Colt 6921 ....


Link Posted: 10/20/2006 2:49:44 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2006 3:46:35 PM EST
What are the chances of me getting a CLEO signature here in Cobb County (Powder Springs Area). I've been wanting to SBR for a while, also would love to have a suppressor.
Link Posted: 10/24/2006 2:36:22 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2006 4:30:07 AM EST
Thanks for the Reply Bookhound! I just had a feeling about Cobb being difficult. I'll start researching the Trust Route. Going to have to set up a Corporation soon anyways, as I have first right of refussal to purchase the company I work for now. The owner just celebrated his 69th birthday so my Corporation may not be that far away.
Link Posted: 10/24/2006 4:36:11 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2006 6:46:43 AM EST
Good points . . . I'm going to forget the corp. route.

The trust route seems almost to easy. I'll ask questions after I research more.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 6:21:41 AM EST
Hey all. I'm up in Gwinnett & I am considering SBR'ing somethings (perhaps have to AOW one item).

Where can I get more info on the Trust path? Thanks!

Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:17:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 6:14:18 AM EST
Here is a link to the tacked thread in the General Class 3 forum.

Trust for NFA
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 8:00:54 AM EST
hey guys, im heading to atlanta for a class in inovember, traveling from florida.

Any problems with suppressors/SBRs in and around atlanta?
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 8:06:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By chromeluv:
hey guys, im heading to atlanta for a class in inovember, traveling from florida.

Any problems with suppressors/SBRs in and around atlanta?


No problem at all.

Link Posted: 10/28/2006 8:28:40 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 9:05:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By BookHound:
Just make sure you fill out your 5320 to make ATF happy.

If you have some time to play, let us know.

Mark


Yeah, I will have to fill out the 5320 for the SBR.

If i get my form 4 back before I leave, I might be lucky enough to bring my OPS with me to this class, it would be a shame not to be able to bring it...

I have been trying to figure out a "legal" way to borrow a suppressor for a weekendif I do not get mine in time, pretty much no avenues of approach.

Only way I could do it, is if someone in my class had an EXTRA suppressor they would loan to a stranger
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 10:50:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 11:31:55 AM EST
I am taking a class with Dave Harrington, any type of OPS inc can would work...as long as it is legal for me to 'borrow'
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 11:52:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 11:59:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By BookHound:
I thought that was a pistol-only class. Any slots left?

I've got Ops cans coming for two customers, but don't own any myself. Sorry.

Mark


I snuck in for sure, only 10 people I believe and the 10th dropped out. Saw an advertisement over on 10-8, being that its in atlanta, and over the weekend, and being with Harrington, couldn't say no.

Yourself being a 07/02, is there any legal way for me to "legally" borrow a can? Would it have to be from someone in the class that happen to have an extra "can" lying around?
Link Posted: 10/31/2006 8:20:15 AM EST
I just sent my form 1 and my $200 to ATF......now we start the waiting game. Thanks for all your help Mark!!!!!Jimbo
Link Posted: 10/31/2006 8:24:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/31/2006 8:25:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/31/2006 8:26:02 AM EST
no problem at all.....sounds like work is wide open. Trust me I know the feeling
Link Posted: 10/31/2006 12:01:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/31/2006 12:03:04 PM EST by HK_Shooter_03]

Originally Posted By Bradd_D:

Originally Posted By chromeluv:
hey guys, im heading to atlanta for a class in inovember, traveling from florida.

Any problems with suppressors/SBRs in and around atlanta?


No problem at all.

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