Rimfire IPSC style match.

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Posted: 4/4/2007 3:50:40 PM EDT

Anyone interested in shooting a ipsc/uspsa style match, rimfire pistol only?

Posted: 4/4/2007 3:57:14 PM EDT

[#1]

Good God, no. No offense, but shooting IPSC with a .22 just holds no attraction for me.

And Gunkata is NOT a girl. Just a man who has made some questionable choices in life.

Posted: 4/4/2007 3:57:50 PM EDT

[#2]

Yes, but it must include one handed shooting, weak handed shooting, and multiple position shooting including prone, even if it gets the purdy bowling shirts dirty.

Posted: 4/4/2007 4:11:15 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Yes, but it must include one handed shooting, weak handed shooting, and multiple position shooting including prone, even if it gets the purdy bowling shirts dirty.

Agreed. Mostly just lots of movement!!!!

hartman...

My take is that we spend so much time shooting other guns we often forget about how much fun we have with our .22s.

Posted: 4/4/2007 5:03:01 PM EDT

[#4]

Yes, I would come out and shoot, if it was on a Sy=unday and hopefully bring my son.

Posted: 4/4/2007 5:06:24 PM EDT

[#5]

Hell Yes!! It would be a ton of fun for Adults but more importantly it would be a great segway to get younger kids and women involved in it. I could probably talk my wife into showing up because she is not intimidated by .22s.

Where would we hold it?

And Gunkata is not a girl but he did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.

Posted: 4/4/2007 5:29:38 PM EDT

[#6]

I'd go for this.

Posted: 4/4/2007 6:16:33 PM EDT

[#7]

Would it be "run what you brung" ? No open, limited or other classes?

Posted: 4/4/2007 6:25:22 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Hell Yes!! It would be a ton of fun for Adults but more importantly it would be a great segway to get younger kids and women involved in it. I could probably talk my wife into showing up because she is not intimidated by .22s.

Where would we hold it?

And Gunkata is not a girl but he did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.

I was actually thinking in the pits, after a speed steel match. for a tester match. Couple stages, of fun.
I am not a TCGC member so I am just throwing this out. I figure we could talk Fred or the Match director for SS (cant remember his name) may be able to stick around and act as range officer for hte event.

Very open to ideas here. Other locations?

I think that it would be a blast and like Ziess said a great way to introduce a young shooter. On that note I would suggest we have a couple before we start bringing the kids out. Would like to have a routine down first.

Posted: 4/4/2007 6:29:33 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Would it be "run what you brung" ? No open, limited or other classes?

Open and limited to start, with junior and lady classes as well. I think would be all we need for now. Guys that want to run optics and those that dont basically. Courses can be tailored to ten round mags with maditory reloads to tame the gamers. Handgun only to start. Maybe at rimfire carbine later.

I think with ammo prices what they are, this could be alot of fun. I would be willing ot put some time and money into it if need be.

Posted: 4/4/2007 6:35:06 PM EDT

[#10]

That would be fun as hell, but I would wan't to purchase another .22 for it. My Buckmark wood grips make it too hard for quick mag changes.

WTF I need another .22 anyways!

Posted: 4/5/2007 8:34:37 AM EDT

[#11]

Whats a conversion for a Glock cost?

Posted: 4/5/2007 8:44:34 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Whats a conversion for a Glock cost?

$350 for complete upper conversion and 5 extra mags for a total of 6 mags.

$250 for the conversion and $20 a mag.

Like I said TROS will thread the factory barrel and provide adaptors for 1/2-28. Sweet little setup and a great way to get hands on pratice with a carry gun without the ammo bill.

Posted: 4/5/2007 8:50:04 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Whats a conversion for a Glock cost?

$350 for complete upper conversion and 5 extra mags for a total of 6 mags.

$250 for the conversion and $20 a mag.

Like I said TROS will thread the factory barrel and provide adaptors for 1/2-28. Sweet little setup and a great way to get hands on pratice with a carry gun without the ammo bill.

And the mag capacity?

Posted: 4/5/2007 9:16:04 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Would it be "run what you brung" ? No open, limited or other classes?

Open and limited to start, with junior and lady classes as well. I think would be all we need for now. Guys that want to run optics and those that dont basically. Courses can be tailored to ten round mags with maditory reloads to tame the gamers. Handgun only to start. Maybe at rimfire carbine later.

I think with ammo prices what they are, this could be alot of fun. I would be willing ot put some time and money into it if need be.

I don't think you need to have "classes" at all. Adding the prone position, low crawls, and rolls will put an end to fragile optics, exposed magazine holders, and all the other make believe zombie room clearing gaming toys that have no real world application outside of the IPSC playground. Having battery failure drills (mandatory battery removal) on at least one stage per match brings another level of reality only seen in rifle matches.

Women and kids (and IPSC shooters in fragile clothing) could be exempted from the above real world movement requirements unless they are ready for it.

Posted: 4/5/2007 9:25:09 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Whats a conversion for a Glock cost?

$350 for complete upper conversion and 5 extra mags for a total of 6 mags.

$250 for the conversion and $20 a mag.

Like I said TROS will thread the factory barrel and provide adaptors for 1/2-28. Sweet little setup and a great way to get hands on pratice with a carry gun without the ammo bill.

But I carry a much superior H&K....

Posted: 4/5/2007 9:35:20 AM EDT

[#16]

I'd be up for a conversion kit for my G22

Posted: 4/5/2007 9:46:11 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Would it be "run what you brung" ? No open, limited or other classes?

Open and limited to start, with junior and lady classes as well. I think would be all we need for now. Guys that want to run optics and those that dont basically. Courses can be tailored to ten round mags with maditory reloads to tame the gamers. Handgun only to start. Maybe at rimfire carbine later.

I think with ammo prices what they are, this could be alot of fun. I would be willing ot put some time and money into it if need be.

I don't think you need to have "classes" at all. Adding the prone position, low crawls, and rolls will put an end to fragile optics, exposed magazine holders, and all the other make believe zombie room clearing gaming toys that have no real world application outside of the IPSC playground. Having battery failure drills (mandatory battery removal) on at least one stage per match brings another level of reality only seen in rifle matches.

Women and kids (and IPSC shooters in fragile clothing) could be exempted from the above real world movement requirements unless they are ready for it.

While I agree with your idea, I dont think that would fly. Combat roles, dives to prone just dont go over well with insurance companies. Besides I didnt say Rimfire IDPA

The idea IMHO to run an IPSC match with 22, but allow camo!

Posted: 4/5/2007 9:55:37 AM EDT

[#18]

I was thinking about checking out Speed Steel, and would definately check this out.

Anyone know where I to pick up the Glock 22 conversion without the 6-8 week factory wait? Anyone local have them? Matter of fact if the same shop had the ceiner 22 conversion for an AR they could probably seperate me from about $400 of my hard earned cash in one fail swoop!

Posted: 4/5/2007 10:20:26 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Whats a conversion for a Glock cost?

$350 for complete upper conversion and 5 extra mags for a total of 6 mags.

$250 for the conversion and $20 a mag.

Like I said TROS will thread the factory barrel and provide adaptors for 1/2-28. Sweet little setup and a great way to get hands on pratice with a carry gun without the ammo bill.

And the mag capacity?

!0 ronders.

Posted: 4/5/2007 11:04:43 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
I was thinking about checking out Speed Steel, and would definately check this out.

Anyone know where I to pick up the Glock 22 conversion without the 6-8 week factory wait? Anyone local have them? Matter of fact if the same shop had the ceiner 22 conversion for an AR they could probably seperate me from about $400 of my hard earned cash in one fail swoop!

I ordered mine from Glockmeister and it shipped the next day.

Posted: 4/5/2007 11:07:28 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That would be fun as hell, but I would wan't to purchase another .22 for it. My Buckmark wood grips make it too hard for quick mag changes.

WTF I need another .22 anyways!

You mean 22 conversion for your glock!!!

BTW, TROS will thread the standard lenth conversion barrel and include a 1/2-28 adaptor. We get enough guys we may get a break.

See here.

Posted: 4/5/2007 11:12:47 AM EDT

[#22]

I would like to try this.

How many magazines does one need for a match?

Posted: 4/5/2007 11:15:32 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
I would like to try this.

How many magazines does one need for a match?

At least 3 but 5 is much better!

Posted: 4/5/2007 5:52:18 PM EDT

[#24]

This concept has always sounded good to me. A couple of sugestions for the match setup. Minimize the amount of paper targets, or eliminate them. Tapeing targets creates the most "drag" of any activity in a match and a fast simple match is the most fun. Sub. small steel from odd positions or angles with cover. Eliminate holsters, most factory 22 pistols don't have a safety which lends the gun to draws in a safe mannor. Allow 22 rifles with detachable mags., they are just too much fun to leave them out. Use a simple time plus scoring system like PR.
I had a great time at the last 22 rifle match a couple of years ago and would do it again at the drop of a hat.
The low initial cost, low ammo cost and the unintimidating reputation of the lowely .22 would attract new people to then get them hooked on the real stuff in a hurry. The wife/girlfrend would be more likely to come along, then get hooked and want the new guns instead of asking if all your stuff is REALLY necessary.
In short I can't see any downside.
I do almost all of my practice with a 22 similar to my real firearms and it has server me very well. To those who would say you need to stick with some sort of full power centerfire to become a better shooter, I say maybe you should try it for a while and see if it does'ent work for you. Pulling the trigger is pulling the trigger.

Posted: 4/5/2007 6:08:16 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
This concept has always sounded good to me. A couple of sugestions for the match setup. Minimize the amount of paper targets, or eliminate them. Tapeing targets creates the most "drag" of any activity in a match and a fast simple match is the most fun. Sub. small steel from odd positions or angles with cover. Eliminate holsters, most factory 22 pistols don't have a safety which lends the gun to draws in a safe mannor. Allow 22 rifles with detachable mags., they are just too much fun to leave them out. Use a simple time plus scoring system like PR.
I had a great time at the last 22 rifle match a couple of years ago and would do it again at the drop of a hat.
The low initial cost, low ammo cost and the unintimidating reputation of the lowely .22 would attract new people to then get them hooked on the real stuff in a hurry. The wife/girlfrend would be more likely to come along, then get hooked and want the new guns instead of asking if all your stuff is REALLY necessary.
In short I can't see any downside.
I do almost all of my practice with a 22 similar to my real firearms and it has server me very well. To those who would say you need to stick with some sort of full power centerfire to become a better shooter, I say maybe you should try it for a while and see if it does'ent work for you. Pulling the trigger is pulling the trigger.

Great post and I mostly agree. I think that some paper targets will need to be used but in moderation. WIthout it the stages would be kinda limited do to lead spatter. However paper could be cut way back and maybe only used in the front portion of a stage making taping easier and faster.

I am not a member of the club, but will donate time, money and resources to this.
But all is to no end without a member in good standing setting it up from the inside. ANyone care ot talk to a few people and see if we could get a couple pits for an after noon for a trial run?

Posted: 4/6/2007 12:02:10 PM EDT

[#26]

Bump is anyone else interested?

Posted: 4/6/2007 12:50:15 PM EDT

[#27]

Cape-

I'd love to join the shoot depending on the date.

3 suggestions;

1. KISS! If you want us older types to shoot, keep the dirt rolling to zip. Also, those that are not great with gun handling/safety (wives, kids) would want the positions very simple (dito the safety officer).

2. Base the event on 6 rounds before a reload instead of 10. Very few 22's have 10 rounds including Rugers, Baretta's(sp) and most of the revolvers. Focusing just on Glock conversions eliminates participants.

3. Base the event on family fun not jock-ness.

Posted: 4/6/2007 1:51:27 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Cape-

I'd love to join the shoot depending on the date.

3 suggestions;

1. KISS! If you want us older types to shoot, keep the dirt rolling to zip. Also, those that are not great with gun handling/safety (wives, kids) would want the positions very simple (dito the safety officer).Agreed but also want to make it fun enough to keep people coming back. If folks want to stand in one spot and shoot, they can attend speed steel. My idea is as I said, run IPSC/USPSA stages with rimfires.

2. Base the event on 6 rounds before a reload instead of 10. Very few 22's have 10 rounds including Rugers, Baretta's(sp) and most of the revolvers. Focusing just on Glock conversions eliminates participants.Actually the first thought of thise was not about glock cinversions but the rimfire people have on hand. Mag capacity can be handled with different classes and mag changes. Remember, think USPSA ie: double taps.

3. Base the event on family fun not jock-ness. Again, fun is the key, but I dont want ot stand and shoot. I want to run. I want to solve puzzles. I want to shoot under barracades. I want to open a window with my strong hand and shoot with my weak. I want to show people a good time. Family fun yes. Boring, I hope not!

Posted: 4/6/2007 1:57:37 PM EDT

[#29]

height=8

Quoted:
Bump is anyone else interested?

I've not shot any pistol matches yet, but I would be interested. My only thought would be don't make it on a Sunday morning. Afternoon is something I could pull off, but the Sunday AM time is generally reserved for prior engagements.

Posted: 4/7/2007 3:10:34 AM EDT

[#30]

i guess i'd have to show up since i'm the number 1 .22 shooter..

Posted: 4/7/2007 6:21:44 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That would be fun as hell, but I would wan't to purchase another .22 for it. My Buckmark wood grips make it too hard for quick mag changes.

WTF I need another .22 anyways!

You mean 22 conversion for your glock!!!

BTW, TROS will thread the standard lenth conversion barrel and include a 1/2-28 adaptor. We get enough guys we may get a break.

We've go two so far: 9s and the Capester, now we need Tracker, Unka-Boob, Bikata, CH139, Spambo, M-60, Gackman, maybe blueswarror. Who else rolls out with their Glock out?

Do these .22 conversions work better on the compact glocks better than full size ones? I think I would rather get a kit for my G-17 rather than my G-19.

Posted: 4/7/2007 7:23:06 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
i guess i'd have to show up since i'm the number 1 .22 shooter..

Don't you mean number 1 .22 rifle shooter?

Posted: 4/7/2007 7:39:43 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That would be fun as hell, but I would wan't to purchase another .22 for it. My Buckmark wood grips make it too hard for quick mag changes.

WTF I need another .22 anyways!

You mean 22 conversion for your glock!!!

BTW, TROS will thread the standard lenth conversion barrel and include a 1/2-28 adaptor. We get enough guys we may get a break.

We've go two so far: 9s and the Capester, now we need Tracker, Unka-Boob, Bikata, CH139, Spambo, M-60, Gackman, maybe blueswarror. Who else rolls out with their Glock out?

Do these .22 conversions work better on the compact glocks better than full size ones? I think I would rather get a kit for my G-17 rather than my G-19.

Think of it as glock.

You can use the full size mags in the compact and sub-complact models so the 17 will work in the 19 and 26. so with the conversions.

\smartass mode off.

I hoped that helps. And thats to the best of what I know about conversions. You may get better info in the handgun/glock forum.

9's

Posted: 4/7/2007 8:28:11 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That would be fun as hell, but I would wan't to purchase another .22 for it. My Buckmark wood grips make it too hard for quick mag changes.

WTF I need another .22 anyways!

You mean 22 conversion for your glock!!!

BTW, TROS will thread the standard lenth conversion barrel and include a 1/2-28 adaptor. We get enough guys we may get a break.

We've go two so far: 9s and the Capester, now we need Tracker, Unka-Boob, Bikata, CH139, Spambo, M-60, Gackman, maybe blueswarror. Who else rolls out with their Glock out?

Do these .22 conversions work better on the compact glocks better than full size ones? I think I would rather get a kit for my G-17 rather than my G-19.

Think of it as glock.

You can use the full size mags in the compact and sub-complact models so the 17 will work in the 19 and 26. so with the conversions.

\smartass mode off.

I hoped that helps. And thats to the best of what I know about conversions. You may get better info in the handgun/glock forum.

9's

Slides are different though. I think that is what he is asking. Plan on putting 1k thru my 17/34 kit over the weekend. WIll report back

BTW, my kit was here 3 days after order.
C

Posted: 4/8/2007 7:02:33 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That would be fun as hell, but I would wan't to purchase another .22 for it. My Buckmark wood grips make it too hard for quick mag changes.

WTF I need another .22 anyways!

You mean 22 conversion for your glock!!!

BTW, TROS will thread the standard lenth conversion barrel and include a 1/2-28 adaptor. We get enough guys we may get a break.

We've go two so far: 9s and the Capester, now we need Tracker, Unka-Boob, Bikata, CH139, Spambo, M-60, Gackman, maybe blueswarror. Who else rolls out with their Glock out?

Do these .22 conversions work better on the compact glocks better than full size ones? I think I would rather get a kit for my G-17 rather than my G-19.

Think of it as glock.

You can use the full size mags in the compact and sub-complact models so the 17 will work in the 19 and 26. so with the conversions.

\smartass mode off.

I hoped that helps. And thats to the best of what I know about conversions. You may get better info in the handgun/glock forum.

9's

Slides are different though. I think that is what he is asking. Plan on putting 1k thru my 17/34 kit over the weekend. WIll report back

BTW, my kit was here 3 days after order.
C

Cool let us know how the 17/34 kit works.

Posted: 4/8/2007 10:50:09 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That would be fun as hell, but I would wan't to purchase another .22 for it. My Buckmark wood grips make it too hard for quick mag changes.

WTF I need another .22 anyways!

You mean 22 conversion for your glock!!!

BTW, TROS will thread the standard lenth conversion barrel and include a 1/2-28 adaptor. We get enough guys we may get a break.

We've go two so far: 9s and the Capester, now we need Tracker, Unka-Boob, Bikata, CH139, Spambo, M-60, Gackman, maybe blueswarror. Who else rolls out with their Glock out?

Do these .22 conversions work better on the compact glocks better than full size ones? I think I would rather get a kit for my G-17 rather than my G-19.

Think of it as glock.

You can use the full size mags in the compact and sub-complact models so the 17 will work in the 19 and 26. so with the conversions.

\smartass mode off.

I hoped that helps. And thats to the best of what I know about conversions. You may get better info in the handgun/glock forum.

9's

Slides are different though. I think that is what he is asking. Plan on putting 1k thru my 17/34 kit over the weekend. WIll report back

BTW, my kit was here 3 days after order.
C

Cool let us know how the 17/34 kit works.

Running sweet~~~!!!!

Posted: 4/13/2007 4:54:25 PM EDT

[#37]

i just dug out my p22, put the long barrel on it, and am taking it out all day sunday. you guys better pull this thing together

Posted: 4/13/2007 5:23:47 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
i just dug out my p22, put the long barrel on it, and am taking it out all day sunday. you guys better pull this thing together

Working on it!!!

Posted: 4/13/2007 8:46:24 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
i just dug out my p22, put the long barrel on it, and am taking it out all day sunday. you guys better pull this thing together

Working on it!!!

So......I just bought a damn 22 conversion....and I'll have to clean the damn MkII.....HURRY UP!!!

Posted: 4/13/2007 9:23:28 PM EDT

[#40]

im interested, it sounds like a lot of fun!! ive never been to any kind of match but would like to try my hand in one. I just bought a little p22 and am curious to see how it would perform under a pressure situation.

keep us updated---thanks

Posted: 4/14/2007 9:04:13 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
im interested, it sounds like a lot of fun!! ive never been to any kind of match but would like to try my hand in one. I just bought a little p22 and am curious to see how it would perform under a pressure situation.

keep us updated---thanks

start trying out a bunch of different ammo. mine is total shit with some, 100% with others.

Posted: 4/14/2007 5:24:27 PM EDT

[#42]

height=8

Quoted:
height=8

Quoted:
im interested, it sounds like a lot of fun!! ive never been to any kind of match but would like to try my hand in one. I just bought a little p22 and am curious to see how it would perform under a pressure situation.

keep us updated---thanks

start trying out a bunch of different ammo. mine is total shit with some, 100% with others.

Thanks GEdevil h Do you have any suggestions on can's that work well with the p22

Posted: 4/14/2007 6:07:28 PM EDT

[#43]

I'd love to do it, just got a Ruger 22/45 so I'm all set. As long as it's not in the next 7 weeks I can make it, I'm out of the country until then.

Never competed in any matches but I'd love to get started.

Posted: 4/16/2007 11:03:47 AM EDT

[#44]

OK, I need a member in good standing to spearhead this from the inside.
I am just too far away and not a member of the club. It just wont work. I am willing to put time and effort into this, but cant do it alone.

Things that need to happen:
Permission to use a few bays at the action range on a given day.
Permission to use the barriers and steel targets if availble.
Need to aquire ipsc paper targets, tape and recording keeping supplies before match.
Need to write up match procedures and rules.
Need to work out fee structure to make it pay for itself.

Ideally I would like to talk Randy, Terry or even Fred (the guy that give the ipsc cert class) to oversee the first couple matches. Might help soften the club up to the idea.

With all that said, I will put together the procedures and rules, prepare 3 stages, figure out what this is going to cost, and gather donations to secure a handful of ipsc targets and supplies to get us through the first match.

Anyone want to contact TCGC and see what steps we need to take to pull this off?
CH

Posted: 4/16/2007 11:42:26 AM EDT

[#45]

I am a member of TCGC.

I'm happy to email or call -- not sure who I exactly need to speak with.

I am not IPSC certified, however. I don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Posted: 4/17/2007 2:03:56 PM EDT

[#46]

I sent them email asking about this. And so it goes...

ETA: so far, no word back. TCGC changed their email form.

I killed the thread!

Posted: 4/22/2007 3:32:35 PM EDT

[#47]

I've decided that .22 ammo is too expensive for me and I'm gonna sell all my guns and start doing this.

Linky

Linky II

Posted: 4/22/2007 3:52:37 PM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
I've decided that .22 ammo is too expensive for me and I'm gonna sell all my guns and start doing this.

Linky

Linky II

That is so tghey!

Posted: 4/22/2007 4:28:35 PM EDT

[#49]

Super Ghey!!!

But... that poker stage is a good idea and would be fun.

Posted: 4/22/2007 7:25:58 PM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:
Super Ghey!!!

But... that poker stage is a good idea and would be fun.

AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO LAUGH AT THIS, I FEAR THAT DAY IS NOT TOO FAR OFF IN THE DISTANT FUTURE.

<---JUST FUCKING HATES AIRSOFT.........but may have to buy a few

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