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Posted: 10/6/2004 12:59:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 12:59:57 PM EST by DoctorCheney223]
Had the chance to go to lunch with a board member (chiz45) and I stopped at Citadel afterwards. They got a small shipment of the HK M4 mags and I ended up purchasing 6 of them. I read about these mags on the EE and in the Magazine section but reading definitely does not do them justice. The followers are chromed and you CANNOT make them tilt. All my 30-rounders have the green followers but they still tilt slightly. The HK followers are solid, chromed and look like they will outlast the rifle itself.

John mentioned to me that his supplier stated that the military put an order for 250,000 of these mags and they won't be available to the public until that contract is filled. By the time I left this afternoon there were only 14 mags left out of the 30 that he was able to get in. He won't be getting any more.

BTW, they got the license to sell firearms now......

thanks,
Ron
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:20:08 PM EST
How much are they selling for?

Thanks....
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:21:05 PM EST
They are $50 each..

thanks,
Ron
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 2:08:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 2:32:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 2:38:23 PM EST by DoctorCheney223]
These are steel mags. Once you pick one up you will appreciate the difference. It is a sturdy magazine that you can tell is an improved design.

Pricey but with the election up in the air I don't want to pay $200 later if there is ever another ban passed.

thanks,
Ron
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 2:43:23 PM EST
Somebody here posted pics of one those mags rusting...the spring and the follower. Good luck but I wouldnt pay 50 bucks for an AR mag, not before the sunset and not now.
If you really have a hardon for no tilt followers buy the Magpul no-tilt ones for 7 bucks and put them in USGI mags.
50 bucks for a mag?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 3:11:49 PM EST
$50 for a mag is a bit pricey I will admit. If the US Government orderd a quarter million of them they have to be an improvement over current contract magazines. Also, I don't mind paying the $50 now because I would kick myself later if I could only buy them at a higher price. I didn't buy these mags on the hopes that they will increase in price. This magazine still appears to be worth more than a GI contract mag with a Mag Pal follower. $50 worth it? That's for each to decide.

thanks,
Ron
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 3:25:54 PM EST
any chance h&k would sell just the followers?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 3:34:23 PM EST
The followers won't fit in a standard M16 magazine. It's designed differently.

thanks,
Ron
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 3:35:07 PM EST
Per Pat Rogers, they aren't worth the $34 they cost. That's good enough for me.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 3:37:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 4:12:17 PM EST
Wow,why are you guys slamming these mags . I agree with the Doc. These mags are built tough as a tank. They are powder coated so they wont rust, the followers are chromed and slick,they are a tad longer than GI's to actually work fully loaded. Check them out before you talk trash.
Now that being said they are too pricey for me . But I do have one.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 4:15:03 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 4:20:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 4:21:34 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 4:29:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 4:29:57 PM EST by QuietShootr]

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
They DO rust. Thats why they came out with a "maritime" version that STILL rusts.

Ask Capn_Crunch, even the follower rusts:

tinypic.com/5tueu

Ask some of the guys that have been through Gunsite lately about the feed reliability problems they've had.

If you dont want to believe it, thats fine. Buy a dozen, its your money.



+1
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 4:29:48 PM EST
When I first saw these mags, I was looking at an HK M4 upper. I seem to recall the HK guy telling me the mag was a modified SA 80 with a HK follower in it. I could be wrong though, that was a while back.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 5:13:53 PM EST
John told me he was getting them, but for $50 I think I'll stick with the USGI's. Hell, if you want steel, get those brit mags, they seem pretty tough as well. I just can't justify spending that much money on a 30 round mag.


Hey, where's Lee? Somebody mention to him that Citadel also has a few M14 USGI 30 rounders available, I'm sure he'd be interested in one or two of them to feed his M14.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:06:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2004 1:45:36 PM EST by chiz45]

Originally Posted By Gunbert:
Hey, where's Lee? Somebody mention to him that Citadel also has a few M14 USGI 30 rounders available, I'm sure he'd be interested in one or two of them to feed his M14.



Hey Gunbert, they've been purchased, tested, and approved ;)

If the good Doc had ONLY $300 left in his pocket/safe/bank, that's one thing...

but he doesn't.

I paid $750 for a stripped preban Oly lower 2 years ago. I can get 7 of them now for that price. I don't regret it one bit.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 6:26:52 AM EST
It's realy hard to sell the HK mags at $47 when my customers can buy new GI mags for $12 Bucks. I always bring the Demo mag with me to DBS if anyone wants to play with it.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 6:56:54 AM EST
Damn....some people just don't like HK mags in here. I was giving some of the local Vegas guys a heads-up about some new mags here in town and people come out of the woodwork to tell us how bad they are.

I do appreciate the advice. I don't think that I will really have to worry about rust out here in the hot and dry Nevada desert though. The only mags that I have ever put in water were some old FAL mags to get alll the cosmoline off and they didn't rust. If I was in combat or my life depended on this magazine then maybe, just maybe I would do some more research on it. The most combat that these magazines will see is getting thrown into the back of my truck at the range.


thanks chiz45



thanks,
Ron

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Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:27:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By DoctorCheney223:
Damn....some people just don't like HK mags in here. I was giving some of the local Vegas guys a heads-up about some new mags here in town and people come out of the woodwork to tell us how bad they are.

I do appreciate the advice. I don't think that I will really have to worry about rust out here in the hot and dry Nevada desert though. The only mags that I have ever put in water were some old FAL mags to get alll the cosmoline off and they didn't rust. If I was in combat or my life depended on this magazine then maybe, just maybe I would do some more research on it. The most combat that these magazines will see is getting thrown into the back of my truck at the range.


thanks chiz45



Some of the guys on this board are pretty rabid about what they think does and does not work. You did notice that the two biggest detractors are not regular NV guys, right?



thanks,
Ron





Some of the guys on this board are pretty rabid about what they think does and does not work. You did notice that the two biggest detractors are not regular NV guys, right?



Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:42:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gunbert:

Originally Posted By DoctorCheney223:
Damn....some people just don't like HK mags in here. I was giving some of the local Vegas guys a heads-up about some new mags here in town and people come out of the woodwork to tell us how bad they are.

I do appreciate the advice. I don't think that I will really have to worry about rust out here in the hot and dry Nevada desert though. The only mags that I have ever put in water were some old FAL mags to get alll the cosmoline off and they didn't rust. If I was in combat or my life depended on this magazine then maybe, just maybe I would do some more research on it. The most combat that these magazines will see is getting thrown into the back of my truck at the range.


thanks chiz45



Some of the guys on this board are pretty rabid about what they think does and does not work. You did notice that the two biggest detractors are not regular NV guys, right?



thanks,
Ron





Some of the guys on this board are pretty rabid about what they think does and does not work. You did notice that the two biggest detractors are not regular NV guys, right?






Hey, it's your money. Besides, it leaves more NIW GI mags for me.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:51:39 AM EST
Wellit better for you to buy them than me, I'll stick to the OKay brand
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