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Posted: 10/18/2013 11:16:06 AM EST
PSA is offering SC prefix lowers for $149. My question- Is this something special for having the SC prefix in the serial number? $149 is a good price but is so special about it?
Link Posted: 10/18/2013 12:41:23 PM EST
it is only special if you think having SC in the serial number of your lower makes it more desirable. I myself don't understand why some people pay premiums to have consecutive number guns, Yes it is unique but not worth any extra money to me.

Would anyone pay extra to have SC in the VIN of the new car you bought?

In my opinion it is a novelty that a limited number of people are interested in, that is why they are making a run of only 500. If it was so desirable to have SC in the serial number, why would a business stop at 500? It does not cost any extra money to add this in the manufacturing process.
Link Posted: 10/18/2013 5:12:07 PM EST
Its made by FN, which has only done lowers for the .mil so far. Add that to a limited run, and PSA could charge $300/lower and people would still buy them. Meh, I don't really care to have a special one, unless it was a nobo or you lie lower.
Link Posted: 10/18/2013 10:27:03 PM EST
Just grab one of their blemished ones for 59$
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 3:00:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By d16man:
Its made by FN, which has only done lowers for the .mil so far. Add that to a limited run, and PSA could charge $300/lower and people would still buy them. Meh, I don't really care to have a special one, unless it was a nobo or you lie lower.
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Are you sure they're from FN? The ad says these lowers have a set screw for a no-rattle fit. I assume FN lowers would be mil spec and they wouldn't retool for a small run with a set screw. I'm curious who made these for PSA.
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 3:25:37 AM EST
Did anyone even bother to read the description?

right here in Columbia by a mil-spec contractor, these receivers are made using the most advanced manufacturing technology to produce the industry's finest forged lowers.

Now ask yourself, how many military small arms manufacturers are located in Columbia?
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 3:59:59 AM EST
I read the description in the PSA forum after I posted here. They must be made by FN.

If parts are made by a mil-spec contractor, but aren't mil-spec, are they still worth a 50% markup? I guess we'll see how fast they sell out.
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 4:08:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NeedAnAR:


Are you sure they're from FN? The ad says these lowers have a set screw for a no-rattle fit. I assume FN lowers would be mil spec and they wouldn't retool for a small run with a set screw. I'm curious who made these for PSA.
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Originally Posted By NeedAnAR:
Originally Posted By d16man:
Its made by FN, which has only done lowers for the .mil so far. Add that to a limited run, and PSA could charge $300/lower and people would still buy them. Meh, I don't really care to have a special one, unless it was a nobo or you lie lower.


Are you sure they're from FN? The ad says these lowers have a set screw for a no-rattle fit. I assume FN lowers would be mil spec and they wouldn't retool for a small run with a set screw. I'm curious who made these for PSA.

There is an established partnership between the two and based on the language they chose to to market these it would be reasonable to estimate that these are produced by FN. The addition of the rear lug screw (if it's not present in the lowers they typically produce) could indicate that the partnership may continue beyond the units they've produced here. The addition of the SC in the serial number is just a byproduct - that denotation serves to distinguish these lowers from the typical PSA lowers seemingly produced by a different shop.




Link Posted: 10/19/2013 10:13:00 AM EST
The only other physical difference is that the new SC lowers are the low shelf style. That allows you to add a drop in auto sear - assuming that you have one properly registered.


I dont think the normal PSA lowers are made by FN. FN supplies barrels for them, and that is not a well kept secret though.
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 10:58:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MarkBinSC:
The only other physical difference is that the new SC lowers are the low shelf style. That allows you to add a drop in auto sear - assuming that you have one properly registered.


I dont think the normal PSA lowers are made by FN. FN supplies barrels for them, and that is not a well kept secret though.
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The magwell bevel is different on these as well. All PSA lowers to my knowledge are low shelf so that is not a novel addition.

If you're arguing these are typical lowers with just an SC inserted in the serial with then I disagree. These are manufactured by someone else and it appears that someone else is FN.
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 2:35:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By whatarippa:

The magwell bevel is different on these as well. All PSA lowers to my knowledge are low shelf so that is not a novel addition.

If you're arguing these are typical lowers with just an SC inserted in the serial with then I disagree. These are manufactured by someone else and it appears that someone else is FN.
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Originally Posted By whatarippa:
Originally Posted By MarkBinSC:
The only other physical difference is that the new SC lowers are the low shelf style. That allows you to add a drop in auto sear - assuming that you have one properly registered.


I dont think the normal PSA lowers are made by FN. FN supplies barrels for them, and that is not a well kept secret though.

The magwell bevel is different on these as well. All PSA lowers to my knowledge are low shelf so that is not a novel addition.

If you're arguing these are typical lowers with just an SC inserted in the serial with then I disagree. These are manufactured by someone else and it appears that someone else is FN.


Aero Precision also made low shelf lowers for PSA. They recently had some of these for sale (serial prefix AP). Perhaps FN is getting ready to start making lowers for several companies like PSA, and is using PSA as the test case (hence the low number of product and the addition of the set screw).
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 10:00:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JW2:
Did anyone even bother to read the description?

right here in Columbia by a mil-spec contractor, these receivers are made using the most advanced manufacturing technology to produce the industry's finest forged lowers.

Now ask yourself, how many military small arms manufacturers are located in Columbia?
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PSA lies a lot...and will always go around a question on who makes, where made and quality of their products. You can look at questions asked about P-tac parts and see that or where/who/maker of their BCG and so on.I remember when they would tell everyone they milled their lowers in the back room of their Columbia shop LMAO. Ill go get a Spikes, DD, or BCM for $130 before a PSA. they best get back down to the $59 their lowers are worth and stop trying to run with the big dogs. Their lowers are nothing more than aero lowers that they have always been selling claiming as their own by the sales people in their stores. If you would really like to know what the price of these parts really cost them ask any employee off the record what the employee price is for their stuff ;) I have seen the price list

I'm sure this is going to bring a lot of hate replies but the truth is the truth.

FN supplies many people in the industry and every other group is proud to display FN. If FN was supplying these don't you think FN would be plastered on it the way they do the barrels? PSA has been caught in to many webs of lies and deceptive replies in the past to believe one word they post.
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 7:52:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By housemd:


PSA lies a lot...and will always go around a question on who makes, where made and quality of their products. You can look at questions asked about P-tac parts and see that or where/who/maker of their BCG and so on.I remember when they would tell everyone they milled their lowers in the back room of their Columbia shop LMAO. Ill go get a Spikes, DD, or BCM for $130 before a PSA. they best get back down to the $59 their lowers are worth and stop trying to run with the big dogs. Their lowers are nothing more than aero lowers that they have always been selling claiming as their own by the sales people in their stores. If you would really like to know what the price of these parts really cost them ask any employee off the record what the employee price is for their stuff ;) I have seen the price list

I'm sure this is going to bring a lot of hate replies but the truth is the truth.

FN supplies many people in the industry and every other group is proud to display FN. If FN was supplying these don't you think FN would be plastered on it the way they do the barrels? PSA has been caught in to many webs of lies and deceptive replies in the past to believe one word they post.
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Originally Posted By housemd:
Originally Posted By JW2:
Did anyone even bother to read the description?

right here in Columbia by a mil-spec contractor, these receivers are made using the most advanced manufacturing technology to produce the industry's finest forged lowers.

Now ask yourself, how many military small arms manufacturers are located in Columbia?


PSA lies a lot...and will always go around a question on who makes, where made and quality of their products. You can look at questions asked about P-tac parts and see that or where/who/maker of their BCG and so on.I remember when they would tell everyone they milled their lowers in the back room of their Columbia shop LMAO. Ill go get a Spikes, DD, or BCM for $130 before a PSA. they best get back down to the $59 their lowers are worth and stop trying to run with the big dogs. Their lowers are nothing more than aero lowers that they have always been selling claiming as their own by the sales people in their stores. If you would really like to know what the price of these parts really cost them ask any employee off the record what the employee price is for their stuff ;) I have seen the price list

I'm sure this is going to bring a lot of hate replies but the truth is the truth.

FN supplies many people in the industry and every other group is proud to display FN. If FN was supplying these don't you think FN would be plastered on it the way they do the barrels? PSA has been caught in to many webs of lies and deceptive replies in the past to believe one word they post.


perhaps it is best to not trash, but instead to just discuss?
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 2:07:06 PM EST


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Originally Posted By housemd:


PSA lies a lot...and will always go around a question on who makes, where made and quality of their products. You can look at questions asked about P-tac parts and see that or where/who/maker of their BCG and so on.I remember when they would tell everyone they milled their lowers in the back room of their Columbia shop LMAO. Ill go get a Spikes, DD, or BCM for $130 before a PSA. they best get back down to the $59 their lowers are worth and stop trying to run with the big dogs. Their lowers are nothing more than aero lowers that they have always been selling claiming as their own by the sales people in their stores. If you would really like to know what the price of these parts really cost them ask any employee off the record what the employee price is for their stuff ;) I have seen the price list

I'm sure this is going to bring a lot of hate replies but the truth is the truth.

FN supplies many people in the industry and every other group is proud to display FN. If FN was supplying these don't you think FN would be plastered on it the way they do the barrels? PSA has been caught in to many webs of lies and deceptive replies in the past to believe one word they post.
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Originally Posted By housemd:
Originally Posted By JW2:
Did anyone even bother to read the description?

right here in Columbia by a mil-spec contractor, these receivers are made using the most advanced manufacturing technology to produce the industry's finest forged lowers.

Now ask yourself, how many military small arms manufacturers are located in Columbia?


PSA lies a lot...and will always go around a question on who makes, where made and quality of their products. You can look at questions asked about P-tac parts and see that or where/who/maker of their BCG and so on.I remember when they would tell everyone they milled their lowers in the back room of their Columbia shop LMAO. Ill go get a Spikes, DD, or BCM for $130 before a PSA. they best get back down to the $59 their lowers are worth and stop trying to run with the big dogs. Their lowers are nothing more than aero lowers that they have always been selling claiming as their own by the sales people in their stores. If you would really like to know what the price of these parts really cost them ask any employee off the record what the employee price is for their stuff ;) I have seen the price list

I'm sure this is going to bring a lot of hate replies but the truth is the truth.

FN supplies many people in the industry and every other group is proud to display FN. If FN was supplying these don't you think FN would be plastered on it the way they do the barrels? PSA has been caught in to many webs of lies and deceptive replies in the past to believe one word they post.



ummm....FN makes Spikes and PSA
Link Posted: 10/20/2013 3:17:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By S_D_:

ummm....FN makes Spikes and PSA
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if this was GD, you response would have been one of the following:

1) stupid 13'er
2) join date:check, post count:check




Link Posted: 10/22/2013 3:48:42 AM EST
I'd take the South Carolina Defense rollmark over an "SC" serial number any day for incorporating the state into the lower. They were $75 each in store a couple weeks ago.
Link Posted: 10/22/2013 7:40:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By d16man:


if this was GD, you response would have been one of the following:

1) stupid 13'er
2) join date:check, post count:check




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Originally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By S_D_:

ummm....FN makes Spikes and PSA


if this was GD, you response would have been one of the following:

1) stupid 13'er
2) join date:check, post count:check







WTF?

What part don't you understand. FN makes Spikes and PSA.

Read his rant.

There is also a 3rd party making parts. NOT AERO.

This is a forum so why do ass clowns think its cool to make fun of a join date?

Sorry for off topic Brohawk.
Link Posted: 10/22/2013 2:39:30 PM EST
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WTF?

What part don't you understand. FN makes Spikes and PSA.

Read his rant.

There is also a 3rd party making parts. NOT AERO.

This is a forum so why do ass clowns think its cool to make fun of a join date?

Sorry for off topic Brohawk.
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Originally Posted By S_D_:
Originally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By S_D_:

ummm....FN makes Spikes and PSA


if this was GD, you response would have been one of the following:

1) stupid 13'er
2) join date:check, post count:check







WTF?

What part don't you understand. FN makes Spikes and PSA.

Read his rant.

There is also a 3rd party making parts. NOT AERO.

This is a forum so why do ass clowns think its cool to make fun of a join date?

Sorry for off topic Brohawk.


I wasn't making fun of you, I was actually picking on myself being a 13'er...hence the wink. I totally get that FN makes spikes and PSA. As for Aero, they used to make lowers for PSA, and the prefix was AP. PSA did recently release some AP lowers, whether they too were made by Aero I don't know. Again, my response was totally in humor and how this thread WOULD have gone had it been GD.....
Link Posted: 10/22/2013 2:47:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By d16man:


I wasn't making fun of you, I was actually picking on myself being a 13'er...hence the wink. I totally get that FN makes spikes and PSA. As for Aero, they used to make lowers for PSA, and the prefix was AP. PSA did recently release some AP lowers, whether they too were made by Aero I don't know. Again, my response was totally in humor and how this thread WOULD have gone had it been GD.....
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Originally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By S_D_:
Originally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By S_D_:

ummm....FN makes Spikes and PSA


if this was GD, you response would have been one of the following:

1) stupid 13'er
2) join date:check, post count:check




WTF?

What part don't you understand. FN makes Spikes and PSA.

Read his rant.

There is also a 3rd party making parts. NOT AERO.

This is a forum so why do ass clowns think its cool to make fun of a join date?

Sorry for off topic Brohawk.


I wasn't making fun of you, I was actually picking on myself being a 13'er...hence the wink. I totally get that FN makes spikes and PSA. As for Aero, they used to make lowers for PSA, and the prefix was AP. PSA did recently release some AP lowers, whether they too were made by Aero I don't know. Again, my response was totally in humor and how this thread WOULD have gone had it been GD.....

I don't think FN has previously made PSA lowers.


Link Posted: 10/22/2013 2:48:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Clemson_John:
I'd take the South Carolina Defense rollmark over an "SC" serial number any day for incorporating the state into the lower. They were $75 each in store a couple weeks ago.
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have Got to get over there!
Link Posted: 10/22/2013 2:53:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SCWolverine:


have Got to get over there!
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Originally Posted By SCWolverine:
Originally Posted By Clemson_John:
I'd take the South Carolina Defense rollmark over an "SC" serial number any day for incorporating the state into the lower. They were $75 each in store a couple weeks ago.


have Got to get over there!


they have a FB deal on right now, $55 shipped. See my other post.
Link Posted: 10/22/2013 2:54:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By whatarippa:

I don't think FN has previously made PSA lowers.


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My understanding is they haven't....up to this point it has mainly been barrels, but it is pretty obvious these new SC ones are FN made.
Link Posted: 10/23/2013 8:00:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By housemd:


PSA lies a lot...and will always go around a question on who makes, where made and quality of their products. You can look at questions asked about P-tac parts and see that or where/who/maker of their BCG and so on.I remember when they would tell everyone they milled their lowers in the back room of their Columbia shop LMAO. Ill go get a Spikes, DD, or BCM for $130 before a PSA. they best get back down to the $59 their lowers are worth and stop trying to run with the big dogs. Their lowers are nothing more than aero lowers that they have always been selling claiming as their own by the sales people in their stores. If you would really like to know what the price of these parts really cost them ask any employee off the record what the employee price is for their stuff ;) I have seen the price list

I'm sure this is going to bring a lot of hate replies but the truth is the truth.

FN supplies many people in the industry and every other group is proud to display FN. If FN was supplying these don't you think FN would be plastered on it the way they do the barrels? PSA has been caught in to many webs of lies and deceptive replies in the past to believe one word they post.
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Originally Posted By housemd:
Originally Posted By JW2:
Did anyone even bother to read the description?

right here in Columbia by a mil-spec contractor, these receivers are made using the most advanced manufacturing technology to produce the industry's finest forged lowers.

Now ask yourself, how many military small arms manufacturers are located in Columbia?


PSA lies a lot...and will always go around a question on who makes, where made and quality of their products. You can look at questions asked about P-tac parts and see that or where/who/maker of their BCG and so on.I remember when they would tell everyone they milled their lowers in the back room of their Columbia shop LMAO. Ill go get a Spikes, DD, or BCM for $130 before a PSA. they best get back down to the $59 their lowers are worth and stop trying to run with the big dogs. Their lowers are nothing more than aero lowers that they have always been selling claiming as their own by the sales people in their stores. If you would really like to know what the price of these parts really cost them ask any employee off the record what the employee price is for their stuff ;) I have seen the price list

I'm sure this is going to bring a lot of hate replies but the truth is the truth.

FN supplies many people in the industry and every other group is proud to display FN. If FN was supplying these don't you think FN would be plastered on it the way they do the barrels? PSA has been caught in to many webs of lies and deceptive replies in the past to believe one word they post.


Your 'information' is incorrect.
Link Posted: 10/23/2013 11:46:56 PM EST
Why is this still going. Call psa and ask. If you dont trust them go look at lowers in store. If you dont trust them go buy somewhere else.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:04:35 PM EST
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