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Posted: 12/18/2005 5:41:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 5:48:03 AM EDT by colossians323]
Does anyone have any other ideas for different clones of weapons, that might be on the list. What are your ideas, and do you have a source.

Hk clones and the like is what I am thinking

If you have a source, do not list it here. Use IM or email
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:14:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By colossians323:
Does anyone have any other ideas for different clones of weapons, that might be on the list. What are your ideas, and do you have a source.

Hk clones and the like is what I am thinking

If you have a source, do not list it here. Use IM or email




I saw some sort of an HK clone at the gunshow in SJ a week or so ago with no pistol grip, IIRC the price was around $2500
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:32:08 AM EDT
How about the DSA SA58? I don't see it on the list.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 11:06:45 AM EDT
If its not on the list, not registered as a AW, then it falls under SB23. Either pistol grip and fixed 10 round mag or no pistol grip and removible mags.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 11:15:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DVCAPI:
Either pistol grip and fixed 10 round mag or no pistol grip and removible mags.



Better than nothin!
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 2:27:29 PM EDT
You have to remember it's only those named under the "series" portion that the new buys apply to. If you are talking about other clones, like FALs, HKs, etc. They will have to go to court for those, so we have some time.

Still I wouldn't mind getting a G3, MP5, FAL, etc.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 2:29:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NeoWeird:

Still I wouldn't mind getting a G3, MP5, FAL, etc.



I've been waiting for my receiver since April, I still don't know if I'll ever see it
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 3:03:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Blue84S10:

Originally Posted By NeoWeird:

Still I wouldn't mind getting a G3, MP5, FAL, etc.



I've been waiting for my receiver since April, I still don't know if I'll ever see it



I went to FAL files and bought a used FAL (CAI R1A1) from a board member. The price is only the fraction of the price of a DS-58. That's my best Christmas present ever. :)

Currently the FAL upper receivers are over jacked up in prices.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 8:52:15 PM EDT
Whats all this talk about the AW list? Has the DOJ announced that theyre going to update the list, or is this all specualtion after all the buzz with the off list AR-15 receivers?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:03:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Saleen_Cobra:
Whats all this talk about the AW list? Has the DOJ announced that theyre going to update the list, or is this all specualtion after all the buzz with the off list AR-15 receivers?



Out of the dozens of letters from the DOJ floating around, there's been a couple mentioning additions to the list. This is all triggered from the recent movement of off list lowers.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:21:45 PM EDT
Are there any clones of MP5's? Anything that might not be on the list?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 11:48:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Whitesmoke:
Are there any clones of MP5's? Anything that might not be on the list?



This Kasler List only applies to AR and AK series. Conceivably, you could import an MP5 clone in the same manner as a FAL clone. It cannot have the characteristics that make it unlawful. So install a 10-rd non-detachable magazine, remove the flash hider and folding stock, and make sure the overall length conforms to the legal minimum. Good luck loading an MP5 though the ejection port.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 12:04:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fun2none:

Originally Posted By Whitesmoke:
Are there any clones of MP5's? Anything that might not be on the list?



This Kasler List only applies to AR and AK series. Conceivably, you could import an MP5 clone in the same manner as a FAL clone. It cannot have the characteristics that make it unlawful. So install a 10-rd non-detachable magazine, remove the flash hider and folding stock, and make sure the overall length conforms to the legal minimum. Good luck loading an MP5 though the ejection port.


Actually, if you put a ten round non-detachable mag on a weapon, it can no longer be considered an AW, so you could put all the evil features you want on it. If you keep the detachable mag and remove the PG, however, you'd have to remove all offending characteristics.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 5:43:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sv_sniper:
Currently the FAL upper receivers are over jacked up in prices.



Damn, sounds like a business opportunity.

I've always found the FAL more attractive as a California legal rifle than the AR because of how you can load from above with strippers.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 9:38:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mesa_Tactical:

Originally Posted By sv_sniper:
Currently the FAL upper receivers are over jacked up in prices.



Damn, sounds like a business opportunity.

I've always found the FAL more attractive as a California legal rifle than the AR because of how you can load from above with strippers.



You are kind of late, pal. Back to April, 2005, CAI was selling CAI FAL receivers at $9X.00 each. When I called in, the representative said that somebody just bought out all of them. ___ALL OF THEM___

Currently, CAI still has FAL receivers for sale. But the price has gone up to $2XX.00 already.

Keep looking FAL receivers with finger crossed.
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