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Posted: 4/7/2013 10:35:16 AM EDT
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I do not get out that way much, but from what i remember there are some very nice areas out that way, i would imagine it has it's bad spots but overall it always seemed like a nicer area
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Posted: 4/7/2013 11:49:10 AM EDT
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Bloomfield / Bloomfield Hills / West Bloomfield is all nice. The area has lots of wealth. Lots of other nice areas nearby too. If you have kids, don't land in the Pontiac school district. Walled Lake school district covers part of the area too - not the best but not the worst. |
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:57:31 PM EDT
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The areas above are very nice. But stay away from Pontiac, that area is going downhill and I live right by it. West Bloomfield is nice, lived in this area my entire life and I'm ready to get out, but that's because.I would rather live where my nearest neighbor is 3 miles away.
Like it was said earlier there are the nice areas and decent to bad ones but most of that is around Pontiac, and Detroit. Depending on where that business is, if you have to go down Woodward, there is 1 week out of the year it would be Hell to travel down and that is the second weekend in August for the cruise. |
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Posted: 4/7/2013 1:00:14 PM EDT
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Troy, Auburn Hills, and Rochester would also be good areas to look for homes.
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Posted: 4/7/2013 4:34:15 PM EDT
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Oakland County is one of the most affluent areas in the entire country. If you're not at all familiar with SE Michigan, it's a plethora of suburbs, each with their own "personality" all around the gaping wasteland of Detroit (not really that bad...though some parts are). If you ever meet someone from the area, they'll tell you they're from Detroit, just cuz it's easy for people to get. But no one is actually from Detroit, they're from a suburb. Once someone says, "I used to live in <insert suburb>" we know you understand and we'll then say, "Actually I live in <insert suburb>".
As said above, Troy, Auburn Hills and Rochester Hills are great areas for getting more bang for your buck (you'll pay premium in Bloomfield/Birmingham). I've been in the Rochester area for 30 years. Used to be the northern suburbs, but its sprawled further north now. If you're looking for good schools and the suburban life those are good choices. Oakland Township and Shelby Township have some gorgeous bigger homes too. If you prefer a little more of a younger feel, starter home area, Royal Oak has a busy downtown strip with bars and shops. If you want a more rural feel and don't mind a commute you can go further out to Clarkston, Romeo, Armada. Be warned though, you will have to pick sides in the U of M/ MSU rivalry, learn about hockey, make the Tiger's Home Opener a holiday and cheer for a Lions team that always finds new ways to let you down. Also get used to terrible roads. But there's literally thousands of lakes in addition to the Great Lakes for fishing and boating, great hunting (opening day is another holiday) and camping/outdoors activity. |
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Posted: 4/7/2013 5:03:08 PM EDT
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Thats in Oakland County. You should be safe for a few more years.
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Posted: 4/7/2013 5:14:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Bloomfield / Bloomfield Hills / West Bloomfield is all nice. The area has lots of wealth. Lots of other nice areas nearby too. If you have kids, don't land in the Pontiac school district. Walled Lake school district covers part of the area too - not the best but not the worst. The population is changing in West Bloomfield. Certain stats have jumped from 2% to 11% in the past 10 years or so. Detroit is moving in. |
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Posted: 4/8/2013 6:14:05 AM EDT
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Bloomfield / Bloomfield Hills / West Bloomfield is all nice. The area has lots of wealth. Lots of other nice areas nearby too. If you have kids, don't land in the Pontiac school district. Walled Lake school district covers part of the area too - not the best but not the worst. The population is changing in West Bloomfield. Certain stats have jumped from 2% to 11% in the past 10 years or so. Detroit is moving in. That is precisely my concern. No offense to the native Michiganders, but I view Detroit as a cancer that will continue to spread. While some areas may be OK for now, what will it look like in 5-10 years? Thanks to all for the very helpful input! Bud |
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Posted: 4/8/2013 7:19:22 AM EDT
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Check out Livingston County. You could drive 30 minutes west of Bloomfield Hills and be in good shape. Oakland, Wayne, and Macomb counties are starting to change demographics as Detroit implodes.
ETA - Oakland, Wayne, and Macomb are also much more politically involved with Detroit than the surrounding counties. |
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Posted: 4/8/2013 9:36:45 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Check out Livingston County. You could drive 30 minutes west of Bloomfield Hills and be in good shape. Oakland, Wayne, and Macomb counties are starting to change demographics as Detroit implodes. ETA - Oakland, Wayne, and Macomb are also much more politically involved with Detroit than the surrounding counties. What that guy said! Oakland is expensive for homes, well, more so than the surrounding areas. Oakland also has Pontiac or more affectionately known to the locals as Ponticrack. They buss their kids out to the surrounding areas for the schools, ie; gang violence. Pontiac is infested with Gangs. It's borders the Bloomfields. Pontiac Police Dept was gutted and was working with a skeleton crew. I felt sorry for those guys. Oakland County Sheriff's Office flooded the city and took over policing and it seemed to help. Don't ever count on their sheriff ever standing up for your constitutional right's though as he's a RINO. If you can stand the drive, Livingston County is good. Everything is changing in SE Michigan. Yes, Detroit, Flint, and Ponticrack are cancers that are spreading like wildfire. Michigan is still one of the most beautiful places on the planet. However, the corruption in SE Michigan is rampant, from unions to some LE Agencies. It's a sad state of affairs. That's one of the reasons we bailed. |
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Posted: 4/8/2013 12:48:05 PM EDT
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School of choice has ruined much of the area around Detroit.
Bloomfield Hills and Birmingham are some of the few cities that have not converted to an open enrollment system and as such have been the least affected by the Detroit exodus. I love the area and the people in it, the schools and programs like Cub Scouts for the kids are superb as are the athletics. We have many ranges in the area and the Oakland Sportsman Club which I belong to that is a great place to shoot and have some fun. |
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Posted: 4/8/2013 4:47:54 PM EDT
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Birmingham is upscale with good folks. |
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Posted: 4/8/2013 6:29:04 PM EDT
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I love Birmingham's local ordinances.
 If there's a natural disaster, and your using your generator to power your home, and along comes MR. Officer, he can take your generator for "Official Use" for the city. At-least that's what I was told by a guy I used to know. He could be wrong as he ended up being a lying POS anyway. But I thought I heard that from another source as well.
Birmingham is very nice. Nice & Crowded! The local coppers that I knew there were pretty good guys. It's a safe city. It all depends on what you can afford. I'd suck up the drive and give my family a good life on the outskirts of the area. If you can stomach the drive to Heartland (Livingston County) or near that area, that is ideal. You will get much more bang for your buck house wise as well. |
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Posted: 4/9/2013 8:28:22 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Oakland County is one of the most affluent areas in the entire country. If you're not at all familiar with SE Michigan, it's a plethora of suburbs, each with their own "personality" all around the gaping wasteland of Detroit (not really that bad...though some parts are). If you ever meet someone from the area, they'll tell you they're from Detroit, just cuz it's easy for people to get. But no one is actually from Detroit, they're from a suburb. Once someone says, "I used to live in <insert suburb>" we know you understand and we'll then say, "Actually I live in <insert suburb>". As said above, Troy, Auburn Hills and Rochester Hills are great areas for getting more bang for your buck (you'll pay premium in Bloomfield/Birmingham). I've been in the Rochester area for 30 years. Used to be the northern suburbs, but its sprawled further north now. If you're looking for good schools and the suburban life those are good choices. Oakland Township and Shelby Township have some gorgeous bigger homes too. If you prefer a little more of a younger feel, starter home area, Royal Oak has a busy downtown strip with bars and shops. If you want a more rural feel and don't mind a commute you can go further out to Clarkston, Romeo, Armada. Be warned though, you will have to pick sides in the U of M/ MSU rivalry, learn about hockey, make the Tiger's Home Opener a holiday and cheer for a Lions team that always finds new ways to let you down. Also get used to terrible roads. But there's literally thousands of lakes in addition to the Great Lakes for fishing and boating, great hunting (opening day is another holiday) and camping/outdoors activity. Out of all the responses, I like this one best. I live in Warren, 3.5 miles from Detroit's northern border. I don't mind it at all. The Bloomfields/Birmingham are pretty wealthy areas. They're considered the new wealth (younger, and more free with spending), while the Grosse Pointes (Southeast side of metro Detroit, right on Lake St. Claire, eastern border of Detroit) are considered the old wealth (older and tightwads). I wouldn't actually live in the Bloomfields because it's too costly, but it's a great place to hang out. I'd live in a suburb, and there's so many options to choose from. Just stay away from living in Detroit, Warren, Flint, and Saginaw. Dearborn and Southfield probably shouldn't be top on your list either. O and it should be mentioned that SBRs and SBSs are illegal, all other NFA is GTG. And pistols must be registered. |
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Posted: 4/9/2013 11:21:15 AM EDT
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Pistols must be registered??? Ouch. |
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Posted: 4/9/2013 11:55:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: Pistols must be registered??? Ouch. Kind of a bummer, but it's getting better/easier than it used to be. For the longest time, if you didn't have a CPL, you had to pay ~$10 for a purchase permit (which was only good for 10 days), take a 10-15 question "test", then you had to return the permit within 10 days of the sale for the pistol to be registered. This was for ALL transactions. Now if you buy from an FFL, you still fill out the form (no test), but it's free and doesn't need to be done in advance. What line of work are you in? I have friends in Bloomfield Hills and it's GTG. Don't get me wrong, Detroit has some SERIOUS issues, but it's often overblown when applying that same mentality to other nearby communities. There's a lot of new money there and it's a good place to call home. Another upside, you're living close to arguably one of the best teams in baseball
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Posted: 4/9/2013 1:03:38 PM EDT
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Quoted:
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Pistols must be registered??? Ouch. Kind of a bummer, but it's getting better/easier than it used to be. For the longest time, if you didn't have a CPL, you had to pay ~$10 for a purchase permit (which was only good for 10 days), take a 10-15 question "test", then you had to return the permit within 10 days of the sale for the pistol to be registered. This was for ALL transactions. Now if you buy from an FFL, you still fill out the form (no test), but it's free and doesn't need to be done in advance. What line of work are you in? I have friends in Bloomfield Hills and it's GTG. Don't get me wrong, Detroit has some SERIOUS issues, but it's often overblown when applying that same mentality to other nearby communities. There's a lot of new money there and it's a good place to call home. Another upside, you're living close to arguably one of the best teams in baseball I'm in insurance claims. As far as baseball, I was a Tigers fan when I first started playing Little League. Al Kaline was my hero, followed by Mickey Stanley, Norm Cash and Bill Freehan. |
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Posted: 4/9/2013 1:26:25 PM EDT
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Pistols must be registered??? Ouch. Yep. It's hugely outrageous. The complacency with this among MI gun owners is amazing (I moved here from MN a few years ago) but I guess comes with time. All guns under 30" folded are considered "pistols" and must be registered. This means some guys are able to carry/transport loaded folding AKs (etc.) as their "CCW". This is all well and good, except that when there was an opportunity a while back to change that definition so that we wouldn't have to register underfolder AKs (etc.), some people actually lobbied against it on the grounds that they wouldn't be able to CCW their rifles any more. 
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Posted: 4/9/2013 2:48:30 PM EDT
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It was changed Jan 1.
ETA: the reason some didn't want it changed was because you can't have a loaded rifle in your vehicle. But you can have a loaded "Michigan pistol" if you have a CPL. It wasn't that people wanted to carry a folded AK in a trenchcoat. |
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Posted: 4/9/2013 4:22:11 PM EDT
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It was changed Jan 1. ETA: the reason some didn't want it changed was because you can't have a loaded rifle in your vehicle. But you can have a loaded "Michigan pistol" if you have a CPL. It wasn't that people wanted to carry a folded AK in a trenchcoat. I understand the reasoning, but it's a dumb reason to keep a bad law on the books. The problem is that it meant everyone had to register more guns with the state. Too many Michiganders think pistol registration is no big deal, when it is, in fact, a huge, onerous, offensive, unconstitutional deal. For the record, I believe we should all be allowed to have whatever loaded gun we want anywhere. |
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Posted: 4/10/2013 8:48:25 AM EDT
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Pistols must be registered??? Ouch. Yep. It's hugely outrageous. The complacency with this among MI gun owners is amazing (I moved here from MN a few years ago) but I guess comes with time. All guns under 30" folded are considered "pistols" and must be registered. This means some guys are able to carry/transport loaded folding AKs (etc.) as their "CCW". This is all well and good, except that when there was an opportunity a while back to change that definition so that we wouldn't have to register underfolder AKs (etc.), some people actually lobbied against it on the grounds that they wouldn't be able to CCW their rifles any more.
As stated, this actually was changed starting Jan 1 of 2013. Michigan law now follows federal law with regard to pistols vs. rifles. It's irrelevant to the OP since a Michigan pistol cannot be transferred and retain its status as a Michigan pistol. |
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Posted: 4/10/2013 4:04:16 PM EDT
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Come on over, join the party! Some of the finest GG people live in Bloomfield Hills / Bloomfield Township.
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Posted: 4/10/2013 5:28:45 PM EDT
[#23]
It's a nice area and the higher home prices will keep out the Detroit free loaders...
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Posted: 4/11/2013 5:43:09 PM EDT
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I wouldn't do it. I am hoping to move out in a few years. Michigan has a pall over it that isn't likely to go away any time soon.
I don't think we will have another Repub gov - even a RINO gov - for a while.
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Posted: 4/12/2013 10:28:30 AM EDT
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If you still retain the conservative Texas style of politics then Livingston county is your best bet for SE Michigan. The county leans Republican for local, state and federal elections. It is semi rural, roughly 50 miles west of the Detroit DMZ, 15 miles north of A2 and 40 miles east of Lansing. I-96 and US 23 intersect the county, many lakes, state parks and recreational areas.
Brighton, Hartland and Howell are the primary growth areas within the county, the western portion of the county is still dedicated to farming. The company I was working at the time relo'd us back to Michigan in 2008 after living in Atlanta, GA for 14 years. We purchased a home in the Brighton area. Decent schools, healthy little downtown, low crime - a plus having a State Police Post located nearby. Also, there are options to recreational shoot here in Livingston county. Island Lakes - owned by the State of Michigan parks system although contracted with a private company to manage operations. Livingston Conservation and Sports Association - private club. Fairly friendly county for CPL applications. |
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Posted: 4/12/2013 4:57:59 PM EDT
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If I was younger with no responsibilities I'd move out of Michigan because of the previous made comments. At least move to the west side of the state. If your choices are "no work" or "work in Bloomfield Hills"? I'd pick Lapeer myself to reside.
I'm glad to hear SE MI may be gaining another a pro gun conservative. We need a lot more! 
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Posted: 4/12/2013 5:04:31 PM EDT
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I am flying out next week for a guided tour. This company really wants me, but I currently have a good job and they will need to make a strong case.
I'll keep y'all (er, "you guys") posted. :-) |
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Posted: 4/13/2013 7:25:33 PM EDT
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NO. I live there (here).
Lots of nice housing, from condos and apartments to huge mansions. Prices are starting to go up. Police are pro-active, professional, and courteous (in my experience) Good area, central to major freeways, etc. Lots of restaurants of all kinds. Quoted: I am a native of Texas, and have lived in the Kansas City area for 10 years. I am a hunter and a shooter. A company is recuiting me for a job in Bloomfield Hills. They want to fly me up to show me around. Has that part of the state been ruined by proximity to Detroit? |
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Posted: 4/14/2013 12:53:25 PM EDT
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There is a very easy method to choose where to live around Metro Detroit. Just find a community where the SMART bus does not come to.
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Posted: 4/14/2013 8:50:12 PM EDT
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There is a very easy method to choose where to live around Metro Detroit. Just find a community where the SMART bus does not come to. HAHAHAHA!!! Lapeer is very nice. Best bang for your buck in the area. |
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Posted: 4/15/2013 6:59:03 AM EDT
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I am flying out next week for a guided tour. This company really wants me, but I currently have a good job and they will need to make a strong case. I'll keep y'all (er, "you guys") posted. :-) We know what y'all means.
Further advice: if you take the job, rent a house before you buy. And if you decide to buy, take a look at the North Oakland Co. area. I know of a perfect house on 2 acres... It's a perfect bug-in location. 
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Posted: 4/15/2013 3:29:40 PM EDT
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Bloomfield Hills area is nice, but there are no major freeways close by. Woodward runs through but has lots of stoplights. The Livingston county suggestion is correct on its face but commuting from there would be brutal. I'd suggest somewhere off I-75 north of BH.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 4:10:04 AM EDT
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Bloomfield Hills area is nice, but there are no major freeways close by. Woodward runs through but has lots of stoplights. The Livingston county suggestion is correct on its face but commuting from there would be brutal. I'd suggest somewhere off I-75 north of BH. The freeways, and access to them, can be a big deal. I live half a mile north of I-696, and it makes getting around town pretty easy. |
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Posted: 4/19/2013 4:26:38 PM EDT
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We just finished the tour, and I turned down the job.
If I were currently unemployed without other options in my field it might work out, but at the salary level they are offering, I turned it down. The quality of life disparity is just too great. Thanks to all for the helpful input and suggestions. Bud |
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Posted: 4/20/2013 10:25:50 AM EDT
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No worries, mate. Texas is the place to be anyway!
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Posted: 4/21/2013 9:33:34 PM EDT
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For future reference...
Avoid working and living inside the circle. 
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Posted: 4/22/2013 5:22:13 AM EDT
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For future reference... Avoid working and living inside the circle. http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/10RingTao/dontliveinsidecircle.jpg Your circle is grossly oversized. There are plenty of places inside that circle that are accpetable to work and/or live. |
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Posted: 4/23/2013 9:21:00 AM EDT
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You would be better off in Texas anyway. The liberals far outnumber the good people in MI..... The zombies vote the way their unions tell them to. Ohh wait, their unions are toothless now, case in point.
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Posted: 4/24/2013 7:23:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: For future reference... Avoid working and living inside the circle. http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/10RingTao/dontliveinsidecircle.jpg Canton is going downhill too. |
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