Ok guys here is what I found out at the Portland show today. I talked with 3 different distributers and found out that what Q3131A they have is all they will get from Winchester for a while. The same goes for XM193. So if you find a good price on it you had better buy it. If we were to order 10k+ rounds of Q3131A he could sell it for $166 per 1000. That price would be considered Oregon and no sales tax would be paid. I would have to drive about an hour to Salem and pick it up though. For Q3131A it would take about 1-2 months to get that quantity in. All three were sold out of XM193 and they do not expect to get any more back in.
I talked to another distrubutor and he said that he can get in Sellier and Belliot (SP?) in for us at a much better price. The only catch is we would have to order in 20k rounds (20 cases). Price per 1000 would roughly $140. I know some people don't like S&B. I have shot it and it is decent ammo. YankeeFan and I haven't had any problems with it. This would be shipped to Portland and I would pick it up there. It would take him about a week or two to get in 20 cases of it.
Too back we aren't all packing AK's instead of AR's. If we were to order a pallet of AK (74,000 round) per case would only be $59 per 1000.
I have checked for prices in the SW and it looks like Vader has the west central part checked, anyone in the Seattle area and on the west side want to see what they can do. I would like to really see this thing happen.