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Posted: 5/1/2008 1:08:14 PM EDT
OK my brothers...
Here is another class for the "starved for training" crowd and the FIRST shotgun course held by MDTS in NJ. Lets support it. MDTS Combative Shotgun Skills 1 & 2 Saturday Sept 13th Buckeye Gun Club, Barnegat NJ 9am-6pm Minimum 8/Maximum 12 The MDTS Combative Shotgun Skills series is designed to start you off on the proper path to fighting with a shotgun. An effective and efficient platform in which to fight with a shotgun is introduced & utilized. This class is ideal for home defense with your smoothbore. It is set up for the Remington 870, 1100, 1187 and Mossberg 500 and 590 platforms but other platforms can be used in the class. Course content will include but is not limited to: Safety, Patterning Ammunition & Selection Modifications & Options Four Points of Contact & Mounting Vehicle/Home Ready Mode Tactical Ready Mode Ready Positions Shooting Responses Combat/Emergency loading & Transition to Handgun Tactical Loading Slug Select Drill Close Tactical Shooting Shooting on the Move Movement to cover Barricades and the proper use of Cover & Concealment and more... Equipment: Ammo- 350 Bird shot, 25-00Buck Shot, 25 Slug, 200 Pistol. Eye and Ear protection pistol and minimum of 2 magazines (if you own a pistol) appropriate clothing for weather, H2O Time: 9am-6pm Location: Buckeye Gun Club, Barnegat NJ www.buckeyegunclub.com Course Fee: $175 Payment to be made via bank or USPS Money Order only and sent to RW3 at least 60 days in advance. *A pistol is not required to attend this class. Contact [email protected] and answer up on this thread to secure a spot in this class. Thank you, RW3 |
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I've been waiting for a shotgun class for a loooong time. Thanks Chris.
The HUN will take a spot, Thank You Chris/Ray : I promise you I will not drop out this time around unless I drop dead |
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Oh, its right for a full day of shotgunning. Just thank your lucky stars its not all slugs and buckshot EDIT: thread with pictures and a vid of the last SG class |
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I hear ya |
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So the count so far is:
Wastegate JoelK Bobby_the_Hun RW3 Andy S. leadunderpressure 1/2 of the way there guys... |
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count me in for this class. i had to miss the last class, both my kids had their 1st softball games of the year that I couldn't miss.
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5 spots left as of May 8th...
1) Wastegate 2) JoelK 3) Bobby_the_Hun 4) RW3 5) Andy S. 6) leadunderpressure 7) opey 8) 9) 10) 11) 12) |
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Could someone steer me in the right direction on the Birdshot Specifics for this class. I'd like to start stocking up , but I don't know what I need, I have always used Buckshot and Slugs, so that makes me Birdshot Stupid . I'm looking at the Remington and Federal brand names, nothing is labeled birdshot, so what am I looking for . Thanks
BTH |
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this might be totally feasible for me... much less travel time than going up to LMI... just don't like the idea of taking my shotty over state lines.
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Most guys in the last shotgun class went to walmart and bought either Federal, Remington, or Winchester 1 1/8oz #7.5 or #8 birdshot. Last I checked, you could buy a 4 box case (100rds) for ~$20-22. These are inexpensive low brass target loads. Most of the manipulation drills will be on steel targets, and perfect for birdshot and buck (not slugs). You will be using various paper targets for the slug select drills. I used the Winchester loads in my Benelli with 0 problems. A lot of guys had malfunctions in their pumpguns when we did a lot of shooting and their guns got hot, ie sticky extraction, mostly. It would be a good idea to test your shotgun by firing a bunch of ammo through it in a short period of time. If you gun runs OK, stock up on that ammo. |
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Thank You |
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Just keep ammo and shotgun in seperate locked containers as far away from you (trunk or if pick-up behind the seat) and come directly to the club, do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars. Don't speed and you will be alright. Make sure the shotgun is "Jersey Legal" meaning; 1) A semi-automatic cannot have a pistol grip or be able to hold more that 6 rounds. 2) Magazined semi-shotguns can only hold 5 rounds total in mag and no pistol grip. 3) Pumps can hold more that 6 rounds and CAN have a pistol grip, bayonet lug, etc. Any questions drop me a line. RW3 |
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Count me in if JoelK and Wastegate will be there. I NEED shotgun training.
Sounds Great! |
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I look forward to seeing you. You will have a good time and learn a lot. I find myself without a shotgun at the moment, and was thinking of getting one for the course, but have decided to borrow my brother's Mossberg. That way I can learn what I want/need before getting something for here. Chris' courses are a great way to see what really works for you in guns and gear. |
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OK add me to the list. After getting trounced at my last shotgun match it's time for some real training.
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There is an excellent book that I picked up at the last gun show in Valley Forge, it is by Gabriel Suarez titled " The Tactical Shotgun ", some good pointers in the book, also some surprising facts. The ISBN is 0-87364-898-6 Copyright 1996, published by Paladin Press.
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I'll bring both of my Remington 870Ps. One is simple and trouble-free. The other is techno-overkill. One guess on which would be better in a self defense situation. |
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I have an 870P as well and Tactical Will be fun to compare Shotties when we get together. |
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Sounds good. I'm looking forward to that part. Then we get to see how they hold up. |
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I'd like to attend, but have a question on the gun setup. I have a mossberg 500A with a tactical pistol grip buttstock. With this setup on the Mossy, one cannot readily manipulate the tang mounted safety. How much of an issue and/or liability would this be for the course??
Thanks. EAT: Is it absolutely necessary to have a sling for this too? And if so, can anyone recommend a decent one fairly cheap for a 500? |
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As of May27th...
1) Wastegate 2) JoelK 3) Bobby_the_Hun 4) RW3 5) leadunderpressure 6) opey 7) Ghostdoc 8) Thunder 9) IRWFO 10) JC_68Westy 11) johnQpublik 12) This is great to see guys... Anybody else interested in this training answer up. RW3 |
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JQ - your mossy should be fine for the course A sling is not necessary, you will do just fine without one. Chris |
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Nice! This is going to be a great group! |
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close the list. i'm in. just needed to price out the birdshot. what size is recommended?
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Read it in red
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arite just to get things straight, trap loads, good to go? scratch that... god damnit. just checked my schedule. season tickets that day for shea. |
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Just bought a case of the Remington Gun Club Target Loads at Dick's on sale.
These are 12 gauge, 2-3/4 length, 1145 Velocity, 1-1/8 shot, 8 shot. $5.99 each when bought in a case of 10. 25 to a box, 250 shells to a case. Might be a good deal for the rest of you planning on this training. |
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Thanks for the head's up thundar. I'll be heading out to valley forge in a few weeks to stock up on stuff, so I'll probably get some there
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Hmm, I may go also. What's the date? |
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Payment sent Friday afternoon. Might just get my barrell vanged for this.
gd |
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Fix my name please. Thundar not Thunder |
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No, thundar was a fish (clown trigger) I had that ate goldfish. But that Thundarr clip is, wow, old. And, wait, hey, is that the Zombie Flanders? I mean Joel? Wow, long time no hear from. Nice to see you have some time for your shooting buddies. Will we see you next Sunday? The correct answer is YES. |
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I remembered my little brother (now in his mid 20s) watching it when he was a kid.
Unfortunately it looks like my weekend schedule and SJSC weekend events are in conflict for the next month or so. I will be around on the weekend of the 21st and 22nd if anyone wants to go to the Valley Forge gun show though Edited to get back on topic a little, there are a few pics and some discussions of the last MDTS class at Buckeye over at The Rally Point if any attendees want to chime in. |
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Sorry guys, I have been reminded about a few things going on in our lives toward the end of this month and early July that are gonna eat up available funds I was planning on having to use for this, so my spot is now open again for anyone who may not have gotten in on this.
Have fun at the class. |
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As the payment date approaches? Are we all set? Where does payment have to be sent?
Thanks, LUP |
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As far as I know we are all set to hold the course. Payment is to be sent directly to RW3. IM him for a mailing address or maybe he will see this and chime in here. Chris As of 6/30 1) Wastegate 2) JoelK 3) Bobby_the_Hun 4) RW3 5) leadunderpressure 6) opey 7) Ghostdoc 8) Thundar 9) IRWFO 10) JC_68Westy 11) 12) 2 spots open |
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All 10 people have been emailed the perticulars for mailing the MO's.
I already have GhostDocs MO so lets get them in ASAP. Thanks, RW3 |
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Ray, I just wanted to let you know your IM box is full, but I got your IM, and will send my MO out ASAP, and look forward to the class!
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