NY AWB and Gun Registration

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - NY AWB and Gun Registration

Posted: 8/5/2005 8:27:24 AM EDT

Who thinks that the proposed AWB w/ gun registration will pass the NY Senate in 2006?

What states have imposed registration and then confiscated guns?

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Posted: 8/5/2005 10:45:12 AM EDT

[#1]

We must all pick up the phone again and start writing letters again, the fight will begin in January 06'

Posted: 8/5/2005 12:11:49 PM EDT

[#2]

Honestly, we need to start now. I will start making up fliers and hand them out at the range.

Any suggestions on how to get people to call their reps...

Posted: 8/5/2005 1:18:07 PM EDT

[#3]

This is crazy. If not enough people wanted to pass it last year why try to do it again the next. We dont need new laws. Its ridiculous to try to pass the same ones year after year. I say if it doesnt pass then you have to wait atleast 5 years to have a go at it again

Posted: 8/5/2005 1:27:24 PM EDT

[#4]

it is crazy but I personally think it has a chance of passing next year, especially if we lose control of the senate to the democrats

Posted: 8/5/2005 1:51:41 PM EDT

[#5]

If we lose control of the Senate to the Democrats there will NOT be registration... there will be an outright ban and confiscation. Waiting to hear from the "NY Republicans are just as bad as Democrats... so we might as well vote the Republicans out" contingent.

Posted: 8/6/2005 10:11:35 PM EDT

[#6]

I bet they wouldnt propose ban and confiscation. Thats just asking for trouble and a shitload of lawsuits. Who knows though. You dont have to be a republican the realize where the gun problems come from.

Posted: 8/7/2005 5:44:18 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
I bet they wouldnt propose ban and confiscation. Thats just asking for trouble and a shitload of lawsuits. Who knows though. You dont have to be a republican the realize where the gun problems come from.

The NYS Assembly has already passed legislation to ban and confiscate .50 caliber weapons. An AWB will be next on the list. As HR said if the democrats gain control of the Senate these ban and confiscate laws will become law in NY.

The NYC AWB has been challenged in both state and federal courts to no avail. The NYS Legislature doesn't care about lawsuits. New York has unlimited funds to defend itself against all lawsuits.

Posted: 8/7/2005 7:08:18 AM EDT

[#8]

Let's not forget the NYS Court of Appeals was the body that said judges have the power as issuing agents to perpetuate a "restricted pistol permit" scheme even though no such provision exists in statute.

Posted: 8/7/2005 9:14:51 AM EDT

[#9]

The NYS Assembly has already passed legislation to ban and confiscate .50 caliber weapons.

They also passed an AWB, but it never made it out of the senate.

Posted: 8/7/2005 10:39:16 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

The NYS Assembly has already passed legislation to ban and confiscate .50 caliber weapons.

They also passed an AWB, but it never made it out of the senate.

Yes but the new, better, improved, expanded, more whitening power AWB required registration and ballistic testing for existing rifles and no new rifles. The .50 ban had no registration provision. It was move them out-of-state, sell them to the state or face criminal possession charges and confiscation.

The AWB they will pass after they take control of the Senate will be an outright ban and confiscation.

Posted: 8/7/2005 10:51:48 AM EDT

[#11]

And we call this America. I can't see them confiscating anything. That would be a huge infringement on the 2nd Amedment. California even got to keep their current SAW. That means no one is safe, handguns would be next and why not hunting rifles too since we're at it.

Posted: 8/7/2005 11:13:45 AM EDT

[#12]

To date New York City's ban/confiscation has withstood every court challenge at both the state and federal level. The New York courts have repeatably ruled that you have no individual right to keep and bear arms.

Posted: 8/7/2005 6:29:54 PM EDT

[#13]

The New York courts have repeatably ruled that you have no individual right to keep and bear arms.

On top of that, the rifles that were registered were later confiscated.

If the new AWB passes and you register your guns you can never transfer them or sell them (except to a dealer who cannot sell in state). It will pass unless we all fight it. Period.

Posted: 8/8/2005 9:49:49 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:

The NYS Assembly has already passed legislation to ban and confiscate .50 caliber weapons.

They also passed an AWB, but it never made it out of the senate.

Yes but the new, better, improved, expanded, more whitening power AWB required registration and ballistic testing for existing rifles and no new rifles. The .50 ban had no registration provision. It was move them out-of-state, sell them to the state or face criminal possession charges and confiscation.

The AWB they will pass after they take control of the Senate will be an outright ban and confiscation.

Does this .50 ban go on further for more voting or is it finalized? Did the senate finalize it? Ive been away so I havent been tracking.

Posted: 8/8/2005 9:53:19 AM EDT

[#15]

None of these bills were passed out of the Senate. It doesn't mean that they were actually voted on, it just means that they never got around to voting on these. Either way, unless the senate has a special legislative meeting this year, they will be back again next year. They will have to go through both houses again.

Here is the status from the NRA:

Lawmakers returned to Albany today, one day past their scheduled recess, to complete bills still under negotiation. The good news is that at press time, the Senate had not acted on several NRA-opposed measures, including A 673, which creates the crimes of failure to store a firearm "safely" and criminally negligent storage of a firearm; A 2302, which would prohibit the retail sale of a handgun that does not contain a "child proofing" or integrated safety device; A 4471/S 2590, which would ban the sale, use and possession of .50 caliber firearms; A 2345, which would impose new restrictions on firearm dealers, and two bills which would expand the state’s ban on so-called assault weapons: A 2466 and S 5504. Though legislators will be heading back to their districts, all of these bills remain alive during the recess. We will keep you informed of any plans by the legislature to return to Albany.

Posted: 8/8/2005 10:11:24 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
If the new AWB passes and you register your guns you can never transfer them or sell them (except to a dealer who cannot sell in state). It will pass unless we all fight it. Period.

New York State cannot prevent you from leaving the state with your registered rifles. I will leave the state before the registration period expires if registration ever becomes law.

If the Assembly version of the AWB ever makes it out of committee in the Senate and is enacted into law it would most likely not become effective until 01-01-2007.

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