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Posted: 10/18/2003 12:31:34 PM EDT
Wave and I were chatting last night about potentially going upstate for a hunt. Is anyone here interested? Does anyone know a good place to go? Lets see what people thing, then maybe we can make this an annual event and rent a hunting lodge next time.

So post where you go, how much it costs and all the info you have!
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 1:36:15 PM EDT
Count me in!
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 1:41:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 1:48:29 PM EDT
what county is your land in ed ... ?
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 4:07:08 PM EDT
im up for a small game like ducks, pheasants, grouse
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 4:44:20 PM EDT
I'm in for anything.. but, been looking to try and do some varmint hunting as well. If anyone has ideas about that let me know.
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 6:09:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/18/2003 6:11:03 PM EDT by bill3rail]
I am in for trying to hunt. I am starting a new job tomorrow and do not have any vacation time yet, so I would have to play it by ear. Maybe show up for just a day trip if it is close enough.
This also means that I would have to buy a new hunting rifle...Any suggestions?

Bill H.

Link Posted: 10/18/2003 6:16:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 6:18:21 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 6:47:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By EdAvilaSr:

Originally Posted By Hoplite:
im up for a small game like ducks, pheasants, grouse


Bird hunting is for sissies!



Yeah , what he said .
I hear tell they got some real big game out
Monroe way

Link Posted: 10/18/2003 6:49:48 PM EDT
does that mean im the only one up for bird hunting? Ill go for varmints also. Not up for deer or big game this season
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 9:30:47 PM EDT
I'm up for killing anything, so whatever you guys are ok with is fine by me.

Hoplite, if we do any pheasant, ducks or grouse, I have some bad news for you. You would be our pointer dog. I don't trust my Caesar around loons.

Ed, that offer sounds perfect, especially since most of us have shotguns now. Now here's the question that'll hurt....how far is it from NYC? It would be cool if we made it a weekend, but for a day or whatnot, it'd be impossible (If I'm recalling how far you are up.)

Maybe we can rough it and camp? That'd make it uber cool IMO.

Anyway, any other ideas?
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 10:33:52 PM EDT
I like this idea and Ed has put forth a hell of an offer. I say we rid Ed Avila's land of anything alive by then end of the weekend.

Seriously, it'd be quite fun, I'd think.

By the way, I've been thinking of trying my hand at coyote hunting. You got any 'yotes out your way, Ed?
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 11:37:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 1:26:16 AM EDT
I'm in for anything Big or small. And thanks to you guys i have completed my Hunter education Classes and have my License.
Back in June when i asked where to go for the Classes you guys provided a whole lot of info.

I took the course at the VFW post in Levitown, all the instructors were great and i really learnt a lot.

Ed's offer sounds like a good one, count me in.
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 2:04:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/19/2003 2:06:10 AM EDT by mag162]
I've never been hunting and have been really bitten by the bug I wanna go for anything that has fur on it!!! A weekend trip sounds good to me. I think we have to take a hunters safety course to get a license though. Mmmm, I'll also need that Marlin 1895 SS in 45-70 I saw yesterday at gaylans,....Mmmm gonna need a shotgun also, my old sawed off aint gonna do the trick. Mmmmm some Camo outfits to look the part also....Mmmm one of them orange coats to keep me toasty.... I think I'm gonna have to tell the wife I'm workin and disappear for the weekend with you guys..
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 5:36:22 AM EDT
Got my NYS hunting license last year, and didn't do a damn thing with it. Oh wait, I've never hunted before that's why, sure I'm game. Where can you go that's rifle is ok?
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 6:15:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 6:26:19 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 6:27:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AKsRule:

Originally Posted By EdAvilaSr:

Originally Posted By Hoplite:
im up for a small game like ducks, pheasants, grouse


Bird hunting is for sissies!



Yeah , what he said .
I hear tell they got some real big game out
Monroe way www.douglaswebtech.com/shatto/minijack2.jpg





WHO SAID they CLEANED "LOVE CANAL" - what is that???
www.douglaswebtech.com/shatto/minijack2.jpg
btw, before I moved to NJ, I purchase a LIFETIME SPORTSMAN's license so I could join you happy arf.com'ers!!!

Link Posted: 10/19/2003 11:03:03 AM EDT
Ed, I'm up for that kind of weekend. Let me know when is best to come on up. I have my hunting permit, all I need to do is get this years. I just sold yet another AR15 and I'll earmark a couple bucks for this kind of trip.

I only have a bird/clay shotgun, is there any chance of a loaner pistol/shotgun? Why isn't a rifle allowed?
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 11:55:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/19/2003 11:58:08 AM EDT by Lion_Dog]
Ed, if I may, shotgun only counties were "identified" because of population densities and the real and honest fear of a rifle projectile going too far and endangering the indigent human population. Some counties like Westchester, RICH in deer populations in locales, are BOW hunting only for the very same reasons - shotgun projectiles can possibily travel too far.
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 2:24:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Balzac72:
Ed, I'm up for that kind of weekend. Let me know when is best to come on up. I have my hunting permit, all I need to do is get this years. I just sold yet another AR15 and I'll earmark a couple bucks for this kind of trip.

I only have a bird/clay shotgun, is there any chance of a loaner pistol/shotgun? Why isn't a rifle allowed?


The state decided that this zone along with several others do not have the agriculture and terrain features that are suitable for stopping high powered rifle bullets. Since a shotgun slug has a max range of 500-700m whereas a rifle bullet can travel up to 7 miles depending on the caliber (i believe a 7mm mag will go 7 miles) they feel a shotgun is much safer in case the hunter misses or the round goes through the animal
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 3:11:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 3:36:37 PM EDT
no, not me. The place I do my hunting is called "Supermarket"
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 3:39:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By EdAvilaSr:

Originally Posted By Hoplite:
im up for a small game like ducks, pheasants, grouse


Bird hunting is for sissies!



Good one.- Tom, I love you man.
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 3:46:26 PM EDT
So if we're hunting on private land do we still need a permit?
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 3:47:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mag162:
So if we're hunting on private land do we still need a permit?

yes
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 3:51:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoplite:

Originally Posted By mag162:
So if we're hunting on private land do we still need a permit?

yes



However, under those circumstances, its called illegal search and seizure, since its private land.
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 3:53:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/19/2003 4:27:50 PM EDT by Hoplite]

Originally Posted By Balzac72:

Originally Posted By Hoplite:

Originally Posted By mag162:
So if we're hunting on private land do we still need a permit?

yes



However, under those circumstances, its called illegal search and seizure, since its private land.


on the drive home when the cop sees a deer on the roof and wonders where the tags are then its probable cause to pull you over
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 6:03:02 PM EDT
I might be able to go if it was within a couple hour drive from Buffalo and I happened to have the day off.
Don't make plans based on me, but once the plans are made post them and I'll let you all know
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 6:22:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/19/2003 7:46:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/19/2003 7:50:25 PM EDT by Lion_Dog]

Originally Posted By EdAvilaSr:
Thanks Lion,Hop and Aimless for answering questions

No handgun unless it is on your pistol permit.Rifles carry too far and you definitely need a license.

DEC laws allow their officer to go on lands without warrants.

Greg,the best day for hunting is opening day (First Mon after the 15th of Nov-Nov 17 this year?)Unfortunately I have to work.I will hunt the following weekend though!



Yes, DEC has the broadest ranging powers! If they "smell" "reasonable cause to believe" you are toast - no such thing as illegal search with these "boys".

For instance, if they see mud on side panels of car, SUV, etc. and you are in a known "hunting" area they can stop you to search for illegal game. Anything else they find, ie. drugs, illegal weapons, this is a GOOD search. You become CANidate for Kornholers reunion.
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 2:05:55 AM EDT
So I have less than a month to take my hunters safety course, which I took 20 years ago and dont have the paperwork for and than get a license for whatever it is we will be hunting?
Ed you got any Cape Buffalo running around up there or what? LOL
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 2:35:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 3:53:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mag162:
So I have less than a month to take my hunters safety course, which I took 20 years ago and dont have the paperwork for and than get a license for whatever it is we will be hunting?
Ed you got any Cape Buffalo running around up there or what? LOL



Mag162 - If you bought a NY hunting license
within the past 20 years they will probably have it in the computer - and you will be
good to go.
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 4:12:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 5:23:57 AM EDT
I think i was 17 years old at the time it was a gun range/club that was on Hillside Ave. in Queens Village. It is no longer in existence now.
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 5:31:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 6:35:22 AM EDT
If you guys decide on something around Watertown, I would like to join in.
When the reporter asks about the record buck I just shot, the reply would be: " Why yes, I did sleep in a Holiday Inn last nite."
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 7:29:20 AM EDT
Damn Ed, you are unleashing a bunch of unblooded city slickers in Mendon???

Oh, the poor innocent, unsuspecting little bambis...the bloodletting, the horror...

Please remind the NYC crew to be very cautious around our wolves and bears...

BTW, my bird dog will be biting you in the a$$ when next you visit
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 7:57:35 AM EDT
Odd, which of these guys are NYC crew? I know most of them and I think they all live on Long Island!
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 8:13:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 8:54:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
everything south of Poughkeepsie = NYC to us

My dad referred to my sister who lived in New York City (not "The City" as that was Watertown) for years while she lived on Long Island. He said it in a tone of voice where you could have substituted "Sodom and Gomorrah," ha ha.




You don't want to know what we call upstaters.
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 9:05:20 AM EDT
Hey c'mon now. We've had a house in Saugerties for 20 yrs my parents live there full time now. And I proudly say I own 5 1/2 acres in Herkimer County southern Addy's I love it up there. Hopefully one day I will get to build a little hunting camp on the land!! So I consider myself a NY'er.
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 9:33:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Balzac72:
You don't want to know what we call upstaters.



Let me be the first to offer my guide services to Balzac for a snipe hunt
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 10:06:14 AM EDT
Give me a break, we have been snipe hunting on Lond Island for years! They like the sandy soil conditions. MIKE.
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 10:41:21 AM EDT
Northern snipe are a whole 'nother bag of canaries. Trust me.
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 10:45:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/20/2003 10:46:23 AM EDT by Aimless]
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 10:56:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 11:11:09 AM EDT
Rifles for snipes! Silly Woodchucks! Rifles are for deer! Down here we hunt snipes with nothing but a flashlite and a sack. Kind of like that sack that SP10 has those canaries in. MIKE.
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