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Posted: 1/2/2006 9:08:08 AM EDT

"Now we have a duty as well, one that rises above partisan politics, and one we will pursue relentlessly," Mr. Bloomberg said to his greatest applause of the day. "And that is to rid our streets of guns and punish all of those who possess and traffic in these instruments of death."

Calling guns "a national threat," he vowed to "make common cause with our fellow Americans" and to "take our message to Albany, to Washington and to every capital of every state that permits guns to flow freely across its borders."

In the last few weeks, after the shooting deaths of two New York police officers, Detective Dillon Stewart and Officer Daniel Enchautegui, members of Mr. Bloomberg's staff have privately said that he is becoming more angered about what he believes to be efforts by special interests to stand in the way of legislation to combat gun trafficking.

The mayor even seemed to take a jab at the National Rifle Association, directing his promise to pursue the "tools we need" to reduce gun violence, and carry the message to "those who distort our laws and aid and abet hardened criminals."

Edward Skyler, a spokesman for the mayor, said Mr. Bloomberg would announce the specifics of his anti-gun campaign in the coming weeks. When asked if the mayor would propose federal and local legislation, Mr. Skyler said only that the campaign would be "multifaceted."



NY Times LINK for Subscribers.

Once again the GUN. In his address he talks about empowerment - doesn't apply to GUNS however.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:16:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2006 10:17:09 AM EDT by TheSneak]


punish all of those who possess



Freudian slip there, Mr. Bloomberg?
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:00:18 PM EDT
Fuck him.

On another note, I'm really starting to think all is lost for this state
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 3:17:11 PM EDT
Look at the bright side, We could lose hillary as senator when she becomes president in '08.

Then the rest of the country will know what it feels like to live in new york.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 3:23:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thorshammer:
Look at the bright side, We could lose hillary as senator when she becomes president in '08.

Then the rest of the country will know what it feels like to live in new york.



- that's exactly what I've been saying. NO ONE, NO WHERE is SAFE.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 3:35:42 PM EDT
Mayor Bloomberg Aims at Wrong Target

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sent today to letters@nytimes.com:
________________________________________

Editor, The Times:

Mayor Bloomberg has announced his war against guns. How pitiful. In spite of evidence from all over the country, from 38 States whose laws permit the lawful concealed carrying of firearms, that the lawful carry of concealed weapons actually DEcreases crime, he’s going make it all just “go away.” Would that such a magic wand could be made to work on more appropriate targets.

When will political opportunists learn that the criminal is the culprit, not his tools? If it were we’d have to eliminate automobiles, which are instrumental in the commission of ALL crimes committed.

Enforce the laws already on the books, and stop making deals with career criminals. “Feel-good” legislation will do nothing to stop crime but go far to criminalize the law-abiding, whose possession of firearms is an effort to protect them against those who ignore the worthless legislation already enacted.

[Name & Address follow]
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 5:27:48 PM EDT
I would serve Bloomberg well to read Adolph Hitlers speech declairing that all firearms have been removed from the hands of German citizens subjects.
Maby he should consult with the JPFO, but I doubt he would.
You see, now he's taken a position from which he cannot back down and still save political face.

Gentlemen, I beleive that we are moving into the end of times. Be it from a biblical standpoint or imperically sermised. The continual deminishment of our rights or the fact that if allowed to continue we will all be legislated and taxed into a subjective position the likes of which have not been seen in this Country in over 225 years. Take a good hard look all around, see what happened, what's happening, and what's going to happen.

Does anybody know if mylar applied to windows will block mind control waves the same as foil?

"We take our work seriously, but never ourselves."
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:57:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fp1201:
I would serve Bloomberg well to read Adolph Hitlers speech declairing that all firearms have been removed from the hands of German citizens subjects.
Maby he should consult with the JPFO, but I doubt he would.
You see, now he's taken a position from which he cannot back down and still save political face.

Gentlemen, I beleive that we are moving into the end of times. Be it from a biblical standpoint or imperically sermised. The continual deminishment of our rights or the fact that if allowed to continue we will all be legislated and taxed into a subjective position the likes of which have not been seen in this Country in over 225 years. Take a good hard look all around, see what happened, what's happening, and what's going to happen.

Does anybody know if mylar applied to windows will block mind control waves the same as foil?

"We take our work seriously, but never ourselves."



I agree, many Jews are anti-gun and many of their organizations. If anyone had recent experience with the consequences of a DISARMED populace it would be them.

NRA-ILA Weblink




National Organizations With Anti-Gun Policies


The following organizations have lent monetary, grassroots or some other type of direct support to anti-gun organizations. In many instances, these organizations lent their name in support of specific campaigns to pass anti-gun legislation such as the March 1995 HCI "Campaign to Protect Sane Gun Laws." Many of these organizations were listed as "Campaign Partners," for having pledged to fight any efforts to repeal the Brady Act and the Clinton "assault weapons" ban. All have officially endorsed anti-gun positions.

AARP
AFL-CIO
Ambulatory Pediatric Association
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Civil Liberties Union
American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing
American Medical Women`s Association
American Medical Student Association
American Medical Association
American Association for the Surgery of Trauma
American Trauma Society
American Federation of Teachers
American Association of School Administrators
American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities
American Medical Association
American Bar Association
American Counseling Association
American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for World Health
American Ethical Union
American Nurses Association
American Association of Neurological Surgeons
American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
American Firearms Association
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Jewish Committee
American Trauma Society
American Psychological Association
American Jewish Congress
American Public Health Association
Americans for Democratic Action
Anti-Defamation League
Association of American Medical Colleges
Black Mental Health Alliance
B`nai B`rith
Central Conference of American Rabbis
Children`s Defense Fund
Church of the Brethren
Coalition for Peace Action
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
College Democrats of America
Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse & World Peace
Common Cause
Congress of National Black Churches, Inc.
Congress of Neurological Surgeons
Consumer Federation of America
Council of the Great City Schools
Council of Chief State School Officers
Dehere Foundation
Disarm Educational Fund
Environmental Action Foundation
Episcopal Church-Washington Office
Florence and John Shumann Foundation
Friends Committee on National Legislation
General Federation of Women`s Clubs
George Gund Fun
Gray Panthers
H.M. Strong Foundation
Hadassah
Harris Foundation
Hechinger Foundation
Interfaith Neighbors
Int`l Ladies` Garment Workers` Union
Int`l Association of Educators for World Peace
Jewish Labor Committee
Joyce Foundation
Lauder Foundation
Lawrence Foundation
League of Women Voters of the United States*
Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Manhattan Project II
Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office
National Safe Kids Campaign
National Association of Police Organizations
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Black Nurses` Association
National Association of Chain Drug Stores
National Network for Youth
National Assembly of National Voluntary Health & Social Welfare Organizations
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Counties*
National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers
National Education Association
National Association of Elementary School Principals*
National Association of Public Hospitals
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Association of Secondary School Principals
National Association of Social Workers
National Association of Children`s Hospitals and Related Institutions
National Association of School Psychologists
National Council of La Raza
National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth
National Commission for Economic Conversion & Disarmament
National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
National Council of Negro Women
National Association of Community Health Centers
National People`s Action
National Education Association*
National League of Cities
National Council on Family Relations
National Council of Jewish Women
National Organization for Women
National Political Congress of Black Women
National Parks and Conservation Association
National Peace Foundation
National Urban League, Inc.
National Parent, Teachers Association*
National Urban Coalition
National SAFE KIDS Campaign
National Organization on Disability
National Spinal Cord Injury Association
NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
Ortenberg Foundation
Peace Action
People for the American Way
Physicians for Social Responsibility
Police Foundation
Project on Demilitarization and Democracy
Public Citizen
SaferWorld
Society of Critical Care Medicine
Southern Christian Leadership Conference
The Council of the Great City Schools
The Synergetic Society
20/20 Vision
U.S. Catholic Conference, Dept. of Social Development
Union of American Hebrew Congregations
Unitarian Universalist Association
United States Catholic Conference
United Methodist Church, General Board & Church Society
United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society*
United States Conference of Mayors
War and Peace Foundation
Women Strike for Peace
Women`s National Democratic Club
Women`s Action for New Directions (WAND)
Women`s Int`l League for Peace and Freedom
World Spiritual Assembly, Inc.
YWCA of the U.S.A.

*The national organization only endorses federal legislation.





Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:55:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lion_Dog:

Originally Posted By fp1201:
I would serve Bloomberg well to read Adolph Hitlers speech declairing that all firearms have been removed from the hands of German citizens subjects.
Maby he should consult with the JPFO, but I doubt he would.
You see, now he's taken a position from which he cannot back down and still save political face.

Gentlemen, I beleive that we are moving into the end of times. Be it from a biblical standpoint or imperically sermised. The continual deminishment of our rights or the fact that if allowed to continue we will all be legislated and taxed into a subjective position the likes of which have not been seen in this Country in over 225 years. Take a good hard look all around, see what happened, what's happening, and what's going to happen.

Does anybody know if mylar applied to windows will block mind control waves the same as foil?

"We take our work seriously, but never ourselves."



I agree, many Jews are anti-gun and many of their organizations. If anyone had recent experience with the consequences of a DISARMED populace it would be them.




lol, it's the Jeeeewwwwws fault, its teh end times a comin. Now I know why I only go here for technical tips.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 4:26:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By EndofGoogle:

Originally Posted By Lion_Dog:

Originally Posted By fp1201:
I would serve Bloomberg well to read Adolph Hitlers speech declairing that all firearms have been removed from the hands of German citizens subjects.
Maby he should consult with the JPFO, but I doubt he would.
You see, now he's taken a position from which he cannot back down and still save political face.

Gentlemen, I beleive that we are moving into the end of times. Be it from a biblical standpoint or imperically sermised. The continual deminishment of our rights or the fact that if allowed to continue we will all be legislated and taxed into a subjective position the likes of which have not been seen in this Country in over 225 years. Take a good hard look all around, see what happened, what's happening, and what's going to happen.

Does anybody know if mylar applied to windows will block mind control waves the same as foil?

"We take our work seriously, but never ourselves."



I agree, many Jews are anti-gun and many of their organizations. If anyone had recent experience with the consequences of a DISARMED populace it would be them.




lol, it's the Jeeeewwwwws fault, its teh end times a comin. Now I know why I only go here for technical tips.



NO you said its the Jews' fault, I just said they should (Orthodox, Hassidim ARE PRO-GUN, see JPFO) be MORE sensitive AND rational to their more immediate history.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 5:56:25 AM EDT
I'm Jewish, trust me.........lot's of us are not anti-gun.

But no offense, lot's of gun owners vote for anti-gun politicians. That's the same to me as donating to anti-gun causes.

Link Posted: 1/3/2006 6:35:10 AM EDT
I don't suggest that you attempt to rob a Hassidic diamond dealer in NYC. You will soon be suffering from acute lead poisoning.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:59:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
I'm Jewish, trust me.........lot's of us are not anti-gun.

But no offense, lot's of gun owners vote for anti-gun politicians. That's the same to me as donating to anti-gun causes.




I married a Jew, no regrets. She's a gun enthusiast in training.

Now SOME of her relatives - ???
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:02:10 PM EDT
Bloomberg can KMA with his "killing of police officers". While no PO deserves to die the fact remains that NYC is one of the safest areas of the country for police officers. Bloomberg had to wait for a police death in 2005 to start his BS anti-gun campaign. In 2004 two NYPD police detectives were killed but they were killed with one of their own guns after being disarmed in an altercation with the scumbag who killed them.

The fact of the matter is an NYPD police officer has a greater chance of being killed in a patrol car accident then he/she has by gunfire.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 3:15:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rkbar15:
Bloomberg can KMA with his "killing of police officers". While no PO deserves to die the fact remains that NYC is one of the safest areas of the country for police officers. Bloomberg had to wait for a police death in 2005 to start his BS anti-gun campaign. In 2004 two NYPD police detectives were killed but they were killed with one of their own guns after being disarmed in an altercation with the scumbag who killed them.

The fact of the matter is an NYPD police officer has a greater chance of being killed in a patrol car accident then he/she has by gunfire.



I agree, he's a RINO and that's why a successful wolf wears sheep's clothing. For a man whose entire business was/is done by the facts (numbers) he's blatantly ignoring FACTS on firearms.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 3:19:48 PM EDT



lol, it's the Jeeeewwwwws fault, its teh end times a comin. Now I know why I only go here for technical tips.


Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I do not beleve, nore have I found evidence to suggest that anti-gun legislation is at the behest of the Jewish people or any other religious faction.
I do not know for a fact that Bloomberg is or ever was a Jew, nor do I care. The refrence to JFPO was in direct context to Bloomberg remarks. The fact that Bloombergs name suggests that he's of Jewish descention is secondary.
For the record I converted from Lutheran to Roman Catholic several years ago. I only wish the Catholics had an organization as repectable as JPFO in their corner.
As far as "the end of times", well every Christian recites a profession of faith with this"...he (Christ) will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead..." If one was to seriously consider all the threats around us every day, it's very plausable to believe that our time is near....isn't that why many of us prepair for TSHTF?
Listen, everybody has thier views and opinions and I sincerly hope mine is competely wrong, but I'm going to prepair as if it weren't. What you do is completely your buisness so long as you don't make it mine.
This whole thread was started because the Mayor of the largest city in the Country is working to make firearms the scapegoat for the citys woes. All of this has been tried before and sadly it has succeeded. The fight will continue until one side is completely victorious.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 4:43:24 PM EDT
Sorry about the comment, I was a bit tired and after reading the comment concerning jewesh org's and anti-gunners and having seen the overtly racist comments concerning rebel fighters in Africa on this forum's general section, I kinda blew up. Sorry if I sounded like I was accusing anyone of being a bigot.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 5:11:03 PM EDT
Fellow Members - we must all agree that this Mayor has been good for NYC continuing its betterment as he followed the lead of Mayor Guliani. However he is HORRIBLY misguided on the gun issue AND because he is a "visionary" he will attack the gun issue with the great ferocity. We, the gun owning community and pro 2nd Amendment Advocates, must band together put our petty issues aside and beat back these bastards!
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 6:42:52 AM EDT
Ektarr
Very good.....
I will leave it at that since I don't want to be banned for saying what I really feel about Bloomberg.

Lion_Dog...You for got AARP. and keep thinking he is good for NYC.

Link Posted: 1/4/2006 9:48:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By edpmedic:
Ektarr
Very good.....
I will leave it at that since I don't want to be banned for saying what I really feel about Bloomberg.

Lion_Dog...You for got AARP. and keep thinking (this is a relative statement) he is good for NYC.




AARP - It got missed some how? F*ck them, socialist scumbags.

Really was there an alternative to Bloomberg in NYC - Hose A. Fererra was better?
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 12:47:48 PM EDT
If Bloombutt cared about the safety of the NYPD he would get rid of the ineffective 9mm issued pistols and one man patrols. If he cared about retaining and attracting the best officers he would raise the pay scale to be on par with the surrounding counties.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 1:28:14 PM EDT
NYC Major Bloomberg to begin a national campaign against illegal guns...


Actually, this self-aggrandizing, political hack of a meat whistle is on a national campaign against your guns and my guns. You know why.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 1:50:13 PM EDT
Yea I dropped out of AARP for that reason thats why I know about them.

I guess your right who would be better but check this out

The Assembly Majority Response to the State of the State Address

Delivered by Sheldon Silver, Speaker of the NYS Assembly

Wednesday, January 4, 2006

The New York State Assembly congratulates the Governor on the
occasion of this, his 12th and final State of the State Address.

As he concludes his tenure in elected office, we commend the Governor
for his efforts on behalf of the State of New York.

We look forward to receiving the Executive Budget and we look forward
to working with the Governor and with our colleagues in the Senate to
enact an on-time state budget, to address the needs of the state, and
to further the government reforms that were achieved in bipartisan
fashion last year.

Two weeks ago, the Assembly acted on a series of bills that will make
our state safer by stiffening penalties for gun traffickers and more
effectively protecting our brave law enforcement officers.

When it comes to halting gun violence, the Governor and the
Legislature have much more work to do.

We must remove illegal guns from our neighborhoods.

We must prohibit the sale of assault weapons.

And we must ban armor-piercing bullets once and for all.

To give police officers bullet-proof vests and allow criminals to
legally purchase bullets that can penetrate those vests is
foolishness, plain and simple.

This month, the Assembly will again advance its comprehensive
legislation to curb gun violence.

We urge the Governor and the Senate to join us in closing down
illegal gun dealers.

In the next few weeks, the Assembly will again pass legislation to
better safeguard New Yorkers from sexual predators.

Our new agenda will be the toughest and most comprehensive in the
history of New York State.

We are making penalties more severe.

We are providing for civil confinement.

We are enhancing victim assistance.

We are improving community notification and the monitoring of sex offenders.

Once again, I call upon the Governor and the Senate to join us in
making the safest big state - New York - even safer.

As we commence our work in this legislative session, the Assembly is
also preparing for the future.

We foresee a new era of optimism and opportunity;

A new era of courage and collegiality;

A new era of vision and vitality;

A new era of responsiveness and gubernatorial leadership.

We are preparing for an administration that will demand integrity,
accountability, and transparency from every level of government.

We are working for a future where the health, education and welfare
of the people are the moral obligation of government, and not the
fodder for wasteful television ads.

We are working for the day when New York's job-creation efforts
reflect each region's unique assets;

The day when economic opportunity begins in the classroom;

Extends to skills improvement and job training at our excellent
community colleges;

And reaches its pinnacle in the myriad research and development
projects taking place in our world-class colleges and universities.

Realizing this vision requires that we keep our promises to the future.

Like all of the mothers and fathers in our court rooms who are
demanding that this state honor its constitutional obligation to
educate our children, we look forward to the fast-approaching day
when the school funding issue is settled once and for all.

This new era of government was defined by the distinguished
historian, Barbara Tuchman, in this way:

If we can be open enough to perceive that a given policy is harming
rather than serving public-interest, if we can be confident enough to
acknowledge it and wise enough to reverse it, then we will reach the
summit in the art of government.

Right now, that summit is still a long way off.

To the families of Corn Hill in Utica;

To the families of Dunkirk and Niagara Falls;

To those residing on the South Side of Syracuse and in Rochester's
14621 Neighborhood;

To the families in Riverhead, in Monticello, and in Newburgh City;

To those working families struggling to pay your bills in cities,
towns and villages across this state, I ask you:

Have twelve years of Republican leadership improved your lives? Your
schools? Your communities?

Is your faith in government stronger today? Are you hopeful for the future?

Remember the early years of the Pataki Administration?

New Yorkers were reaping the dividends of that extraordinary and
history-making Clinton economy.

The state's coffers were filled to the brim.

The ability to strengthen the core elements of New York State's
economy was never better.

Yet, the Pataki Administration purposefully under funded education
and higher education;

Under invested in mass transit, roads and bridges;

Under financed health and mental health care;

And under capitalized housing and the other essential aspects of our
infrastructure.

Then came September 11th, 2001.

New Yorkers were the target of the single most devastating act of
mass murder and economic destruction ever perpetrated by a terrorist
entity in this country.

Today, four-and-a-third years after the towers thundered to earth,
Ground Zero remains a sad and empty space, and the Lower Manhattan
economy continues to sink in a swamp of competing visions and
misguided priorities.

For eleven years, through the highs and the lows, New Yorkers have
endured an administration that has been defined by a reluctance to
lead; an administration unable to back up its rhetoric with action,
and unwilling to conduct its business in the sunlight of public scrutiny.

For eleven years, New Yorkers have watched their governor raise
millions of dollars for a national political party that is
shortchanging our state billions of dollars in federal aid.

For eleven years, we have endured an administration that has defined
health-care reform as cuts in Medicaid funding for the elderly and disabled.

And now, after an economically crippling transit workers strike, the
Governor's absence from the negotiating table proves yet again that
he is reluctant to lead.

In refusing to work with the Legislature, this Administration has
consistently acted in opposition to the best interests of New Yorkers.

Yes, a school-funding agreement could have been reached, but only if
the Legislature sold out our school children.

We could not act so callously. We would not!

Instead, the Legislature stood together and chose to lead. The
budgets we crafted are directly responsible for the recent upgrade in
the state's credit rating.

I assure you that we will continue to lead this state in the
direction that is best for New Yorkers and for our future.

This is the commitment of your State Assembly.

We will pass an on-time budget.

We will strengthen our education system in every part of this state.

We will target real property tax relief to our hard-pressed
communities, our working families and our senior citizens.

We will strive to expand job growth in every city, county and town.

We will keep the dream of a college degree alive for every New Yorker
who needs and is prepared for the challenges of higher education.

We will do all that we can to ensure that affordable, quality health
care is accessible to every New Yorker.

We will work even harder to make energy less costly to businesses,
homes, and especially to those New Yorkers on fixed incomes.

We will strive to make New York State a place our children want to
stay, where they can afford to own a home, where they can find good
jobs and build a secure career, where our schools are the finest in
the nation, where our communities are free from violence, where the
environment is clean, and their government is responsive to their needs.

The Governor has the opportunity in this, his final year in office,
to establish this kind of legacy; a legacy of leadership, of
bipartisanship, of dedication to working families and to helping them
address the challenges they face every day.

This Governor has the opportunity to guide this State to that
brighter future all New Yorkers are hoping for.

In a spirit of optimism, the Assembly stands ready to work with the
Governor and with the Senate to help him craft the legacy New Yorkers deserve.

We are eager to begin our work. We are eager to prepare for the
future. We are eager to restore the people's faith in their government.

I am Sheldon Silver, Speaker of the New York State Assembly urging
all New Yorkers to get ready, brighter days are coming.


BETTER DAYS MY A$$ I replied to them
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