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Posted: 1/18/2006 9:12:17 AM EDT
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SBRs and AOWs allowed with a form 1 tax stamp.
Suppressors and MGs not allowed. Period. C&R weapons are permitted. I don't have a link to the laws, but that's pretty much it in a nutshell. |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 9:48:35 AM EDT
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SBR is on a form 1. So i guess i could visit my buddy with the SBR, but not the cans. Oh well... |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 9:52:06 AM EDT
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Get a picture of those cans and post them!!! 
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Posted: 1/18/2006 10:09:27 AM EDT
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Can you take SBRs across state lines?
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Posted: 1/18/2006 10:45:53 AM EDT
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I believe that there is a form that you have to fill out to take any NFA weapon across state lines. If I remember correctly it is good for a certain amount of time and then you have to re-submit. I am not sure about actually transporting the NFA weapons through states that ban them. I'd check with one of the local C3 dealers, they might know the current rules, at least you'd hope they know them.
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Posted: 1/18/2006 10:52:34 AM EDT
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They only MG's are C&R MG's that are ok In Minnesota, unless you are a S.O.T.
SBR's and AOW's are ok in MInnesota To transport you have to file an application with the BATFE stating the reason of transportation and length of visit, you put down the dates that you are going to be in-transit/visiting and then they will approve it. Make sure you always have your approved application with you |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 2:04:23 PM EDT
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Well my 5320.20 was sent in for Wisconsin. I'm debating sending one in for MN. So far the official ARFCOM count for SBR's in MN is 1 yea and 1 Nay. Can anyone give me a statute to reference? |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 2:12:36 PM EDT
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I see all yeas in here. |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 3:32:42 PM EDT
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my bad. i mixed up suppressor and SBR. So SBR's are definitly good to go then. What about suppressors? I've found both online. |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 4:27:25 PM EDT
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Supressor are only a go for LE in MN.
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Posted: 1/18/2006 5:04:42 PM EDT
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crappity crap crap. And my buddy had to move from Eau Claire to Rochester. Go figure. |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 5:15:18 PM EDT
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i know this is going to stir the pot and possibly screw people up, BUT people in MN CAN own non-C&R MGs, but they have to have an Ammunition Manufacturer's license, i guess it's a type of FFL, only for making ammo. when i had the ATF send me the app, it was the standard FFL license app, but you checked a different box. you still need to get fingerprinted and follow zoning regs and it's not too spendy.
possessors of said ammo makers license are eligible to own non-C&R MGs in Minnesota. Bob Bowman has helped a couple dozen people go this route in the past. it is more of a hassle than owning C&R MGs, but if someone really wants to own non-C&R mgs in MN, this is a way to do it. Craig |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 5:27:53 PM EDT
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Can such a license holder own post-'86 MGs? |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 8:43:07 PM EDT
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If you are a S.O.T. and have a letter from the CLEO in your area, then you are good to go |
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Posted: 1/18/2006 8:44:37 PM EDT
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Yep SBR's are ok No Suppressors here unless of course you are a S.O.T. or LEO |
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Posted: 1/19/2006 6:23:52 AM EDT
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Here's the link you requested...
www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin/getpub.php?pubtype=STAT_CHAP_SEC&year=current§ion=609.67 |
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Posted: 1/19/2006 11:13:56 AM EDT
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Thanks! For suppressors, see 609.66. "Subd. 1a. Felony crimes; silencers prohibited; reckless discharge. (a) Except as otherwise provided in subdivision 1h, whoever does any of the following is guilty of a felony and may be sentenced as provided in paragraph (b): (1) sells or has in possession any device designed to silence or muffle the discharge of a firearm; " |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 5:36:05 PM EDT
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I know what a SBR is but what is a AOW
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Posted: 1/21/2006 5:38:35 PM EDT
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Any Other Weapon Pen guns Short barreled shotguns mfg as AOW's the list goes on It has a $5.00 Federal Tax |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 7:14:06 PM EDT
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Anything that matches the federal definition of a firearm, but does not match the definition of a rifle or a handgun.
The same way you would an SBR. Either a form 1 and build it yourself or a form 4 and buy it. The odd thing with AOWs is that for a regular person to make one on a F1 it's a $200 tax, but it's only $5.00 to transfer on a F4. Therefore, people don't generally make one, they buy one already made from an SOT (who pays no such tax) and transfers it for $5.00. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 12:16:50 AM EDT
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To further complicate things, what the feds may consider an AOW under fed law could be considered a short-barreled shotgun under MN state law. Read the statutes carefully before proceeding!
To quote MN SS 609.67 (c) "Short-barreled shotgun" means a shotgun having one or more barrels less than 18 inches in length and any weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length less than 26 inches. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 12:41:38 PM EDT
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any weapon made from a shotgun that needs to be listed on the NFA registry is an SBS according to the feds also. in order to be an AOW it has to be made from a previously unassembled/stripped receiver. it is kinda like how you are able to build an AR pistol from a stripped AR lower that has never been made into a rifle.
example: remington 870s that come from the factory with a short barrel and a PG are sold as AOW. if you were to file a form 1to make the exact configuration from say a wingmaster you used to hunt with it would be an SBS. the diff is that remington made them from receivers that never had buttstocks on them, and yours did. stupid, i know. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 2:56:50 PM EDT
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Which also means it would transfer as an AOW for $5 instead of an SBS for $200. Don't get a stock anywhere near it though, it would then be an unregistered SBS and you'd win a free trip to Club Fed. Ain't these gun laws just dandy? |
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