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Posted: 8/30/2007 9:17:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2007 4:41:24 PM EDT by MDTS1]
ATTN Date Change- Sunday November 18, Calverton Shooting Range , Calverton NY

Class Size:
12 guys min., 16 max.

Course Cost:
$225/person - includes range rental

Course Description:
MDTS Combative Carbine 1 & 2 is 8 hrs of instruction covering the following topics: History & Zero, Modifications & Sling Options, Administrative Gun-Handling, Carbine Ready Positions, Fundamental Marksmanship, Combative Marksmanship, Tactical Shooting Responses, Combative Gun-Handling, Bilateral Weapon Operation, After Action Assessments, Combative Shooting Positions, Vertical and Lateral Displacement, Reactive Movement, Weapon Transitions and more..

Equipment:
Carbine, min. 3 magazines, Eye and Ear protection, ~600 rounds of ammunition, water

Optional equipment:
Load bearing vest, Sling, Knee pads, pistol with min. 2 magazines and 100 rnds pistol ammunition

To Register:

Contact CFry@mdtstraining.com to secure your spot in this class.

USPS Money Order for full class tuition must be received by Oct. 10 to secure your spot in the class. If we cancel the class, your money will be returned to you via company check. Put your real name and your screen-name on the MO so I know who you are.

Make MO's out to MDTS, LLC and mail them to:
Chris Fry
MDTS, LLC
PO BOX 323
New Hartford, NY 13413

For more information:
MDTS Course Information

Link Posted: 8/30/2007 4:29:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2007 4:31:29 PM EDT by chapperjoe]
I'm in.....

I have no pistol but I do have everything else on that list (actually need 100 more rounds of TAP to make 600 ) !!!

Now I just have to get in better shape by then
Link Posted: 8/31/2007 3:06:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/1/2007 6:42:32 AM EDT by riese]
I'm in! Its going to be great to have a class so close to home. Come on guys this doesn't happen very often!

Riese
Link Posted: 9/2/2007 6:35:32 PM EDT
Big tag.
Link Posted: 9/3/2007 8:34:23 AM EDT
Can we get this tacked up???
-weasle
Link Posted: 9/3/2007 10:29:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
I'm in.....

I have no pistol but I do have everything else on that list (actually need 100 more rounds of TAP to make 600 ) !!!

Now I just have to get in better shape by then


permit time now me thinks ChapperJoe
Link Posted: 9/4/2007 4:46:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2007 5:15:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2007 5:16:26 AM EDT by chapperjoe]

Originally Posted By Dieter122:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
I'm in.....

I have no pistol but I do have everything else on that list (actually need 100 more rounds of TAP to make 600 ) !!!

Now I just have to get in better shape by then


permit time now me thinks ChapperJoe


I do want to shoot pistols and collect 1911's again, but the libertarian in me objects so much to the registration of firearms that I really do think I'm gonna pass on pistols in NY. It kinda sucks rights-wise, but practically I'm well protected at work and at home and don't really worry about the three block commute I have....

In Virginia where I was running all over the state in places I was new to and driving through MS-13 and Hamas land, it was one thing - not to mention the fact that I lived less than a mile away from range-heaven, the NRA HQ... In the five towns, the most dangerous thing that can happen to me is that I meet a nice girl and actually marry her.

... and no pistol round is gonna stop a five towns princess still single in her 20's
Link Posted: 9/4/2007 2:46:09 PM EDT
Nice Mag! Thanks!


Originally Posted By mag162:
Tacked to make sure this happens.
I'm in
Link Posted: 9/4/2007 7:01:43 PM EDT
I'll be sending my check out shortly. Trying to convince a buddy to tag along. How many slots are filled thus far?
Link Posted: 9/5/2007 4:11:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 0612Devil:
I'll be sending my check out shortly. Trying to convince a buddy to tag along. How many slots are filled thus far?


I have not received any deposits as of yet. Deadline is Oct. 10, if we do not have 12 people by that date the class will be cancelled. Thanks.

Chris
Link Posted: 9/6/2007 3:55:16 AM EDT
Payment sent for two.
Link Posted: 9/6/2007 6:06:55 AM EDT
My check will not be going out till October....
Link Posted: 9/6/2007 7:58:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2007 7:59:54 AM EDT by mag162]
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 10:50:52 AM EDT
+1 for me...
Check will be in the mail at the end of sept.
Chris
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 11:01:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 11:02:48 AM EDT by MDTS1]
Looks like this is who we have at this time:

1) Riese
2) Riese Friend
3) ChapperJoe
4) Mag162
5) 0612Devil
6) Weasle
7) Mike S.

As long as Mike S isn't one of the screen-names listed we have 7 and need 5 more for the class to be a GO.

Thanks,
Chris
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 3:12:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 3:12:55 PM EDT by Dodgeram]
Count me in, Check will be sent out this weekend
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 4:19:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 4:19:41 PM EDT by MDTS1]
1) Riese
2) Riese Friend
3) ChapperJoe
4) Mag162
5) 0612Devil
6) Weasle
7) Mike S.
8) Dodgeram
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 4:39:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 6:57:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mag162:

Originally Posted By Dodgeram:
Count me in, Check will be sent out this weekend

Wanna rent a carbine? Or are you gonna lug around a .308


I figured the Beowulf, and about 85lbs of ammo
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 3:20:19 PM EDT
Count me in.
I'll ask a buddy of mine if he wants in also.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 4:18:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2007 4:18:21 PM EDT by MDTS1]
1) Riese
2) Riese Friend
3) ChapperJoe
4) Mag162
5) 0612Devil
6) Weasle
7) Mike S.
8) Dodgeram
9) SigSauer228

We are getting there.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 6:26:12 PM EDT
I'll be getting a check out in the next week or two. Should be a great time.

For anyone who has never taken a course like this, it will ruin going to Calverton to plink.
Link Posted: 9/9/2007 6:26:14 AM EDT
1) Riese
2) Riese Friend
3) ChapperJoe
4) Mag162
5) 0612Devil
6) Weasle
7) Mike S.
8) Dodgeram
9) SigSauer228
10) Phobia

2 more and we are Calverton bound!

Link Posted: 9/9/2007 10:02:17 AM EDT
I'm pretty sure I'll be bringing along at least one, maybe two other guys.

Just have to get them to commit....

They're married so they're decision making privileges have been revoked until their death or that of their spouse.
Link Posted: 9/9/2007 2:33:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2007 2:37:07 PM EDT by BeachPatrol]
I'd like to take the class, I just sent you an e-mail. As soon as you let me know I'll send the MO.

Mike
Link Posted: 9/9/2007 3:44:53 PM EDT
I'm in. Sent you an e-mail. Will be mailing check out October 1st.
Link Posted: 9/9/2007 6:16:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2007 6:19:38 PM EDT by MDTS1]
MGLax13- I did not receive an email? Cfry@mdtstraining.com

ChapperJoe- let me know ASAP about your buddies.

1) Riese
2) Riese Friend
3) ChapperJoe
4) Mag162
5) 0612Devil
6) Weasle
7) Mike S.
8) Dodgeram
9) SigSauer228
10) Phobia
11) BeachPatrol


Link Posted: 9/9/2007 8:16:53 PM EDT
Chris,
Will certificates be given at the end of the course for individuals who need to document training for work?
Thanks,
Chris
Link Posted: 9/10/2007 6:37:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By weasle:
Chris,
Will certificates be given at the end of the course for individuals who need to document training for work?
Thanks,
Chris


Weasle,

I usually don't issue certificates except upon request. I can send you one in the mail a few days after I get home unless you ABSOLUTLEY need it day of event. Let me know and I can make it happen either way.

Link Posted: 9/10/2007 8:05:32 PM EDT
posting for a friend
+1 for Pookster
So that should be the min of 12 now.
chris
Link Posted: 9/11/2007 6:07:42 AM EDT
Everyone- since I have had more than one request for a certificate for the class I will provide certificates for all participants of this class. Please send your full name along with your payment or email me.
Thanks, Chris
Link Posted: 9/11/2007 6:15:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2007 6:55:35 PM EDT by MDTS1]
1) Riese
2) ChapperJoe
3) Mag162
4) 0612Devil
5) Weasle
6) Mike S.
7) Dodgeram
8) SigSauer228
9) Phobia
10) BeachPatrol
11) Matt G (MGLax13)
12) Pookster

Guys- if you email about the class please include your screen-name along with your real name so I am not posting the same person on the list twice. If you see your screen name and your real name on the list, please let me know. Thanks!

We have a green light!

Only 4 spots open for this class- tell a friend

Link Posted: 9/11/2007 6:46:25 AM EDT
Also, since you will be training with us come check out our CNY Training Ops forum if you get a chance. Course announcements, news and pertinent personal defense information for civilians and professionals.

CNY Training Ops Forum
Link Posted: 9/11/2007 6:40:51 PM EDT
I'm in. Check going out tommorrow, will need a certificate at a later date.
Link Posted: 9/11/2007 7:02:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2007 4:50:26 PM EDT by MDTS1]
1) Riese
2) ChapperJoe
3) Mag162
4) 0612Devil
5) Weasle
6) Mike S.
7) Dodgeram
8) SigSauer228
9) Phobia
10) BeachPatrol
11) Matt G (MGLax13)
12) Pookster
13) src201
14) termin8tor
15) Mark S. (GSA)

1 Spot left.


Link Posted: 9/12/2007 4:42:29 PM EDT
What kind of ammo is everyone going to be running? I'm having a tough time choosing, and I don't really want to run wolf (although it runs flawlessly in my rifle) b/c i don't want to slow the momentum of the class with failures. Thanks, Let me know.
Link Posted: 9/12/2007 5:50:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2007 6:01:31 PM EDT by globe512]
OK I'm in. Just got another carbine so might as well learn how to shoot it better.


Edit: devil, I'm going to shoot Wolf 55gr MC. I've never had a failure with it either, shooting slow fire, mag dumps, whatever. I can't say the same for Prvi (no flash hole in 1 round).
Link Posted: 9/12/2007 6:10:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 0612Devil:
What kind of ammo is everyone going to be running? I'm having a tough time choosing, and I don't really want to run wolf (although it runs flawlessly in my rifle) b/c i don't want to slow the momentum of the class with failures. Thanks, Let me know.


I have used Wolf in several carbine classes and routinely in competition, including a recent carbine match with a long range stage with 4 x 8" circular plates at 200 meters and a 3/4 size or so IPSC target at 300 meters. It looked pretty damned small, I'll tell you that. I hit all the targets from all 3 shooting positions. The number of failures in the classes and competitions due to Wolf ammo has been 0, in my own personal experience.

That said, I had a dud primer last weekend when I was shooting a CMP type match with some friends on the offhand stage. This was with a newer case of Wolf I bought last year. And I have seen other guns have issues with Wolf. If your gun shoots it, use it. If you aren't sure, put a couple hundred rounds through it in an hour or so. Get it warm and dirty. If it runs, there is your answer.

I have seen a LOT of ammo related failures from crappy surplus like Olympic and others.

I would also highly suggest you guys show up with a properly zeroed rifle. Some classes dwell too much on this. Chris likely won't, so it will be nice if your carbine is ready to go. I personally use a 50 yard zero on my carbines.

Also make sure it is cleaned and lubed. Check out some of the carbine threads on the MDTS forum for some thoughts on cleaning and lubing.



Link Posted: 9/12/2007 6:26:23 PM EDT
1) Riese
2) ChapperJoe
3) Mag162
4) 0612Devil
5) Weasle
6) Mike S.
7) Dodgeram
8) SigSauer228
9) Phobia
10) BeachPatrol
11) Matt G (MGLax13)
12) Pookster
13) src201
14) termin8tor
15) Mark S. (GSA)
16) Globe512

Class is full
Link Posted: 9/13/2007 8:04:47 AM EDT
Thanks for the feedback on the wolf guys. I guess I'm going to have to scour the net for some good steel cased stuff and use the 400 (600 reserved for class) to do a final opcheck. Thanks again.
Link Posted: 9/16/2007 3:28:42 PM EDT
Now that we got enrolment setup lets talk about what gear we're going to wear to the event. I know everyone has there own reason for training so their gear choice will be chosen by this but I would love to see what you guys are planning to utilise at the event.

Personally, the likelihood of using a carbine at work for me is rather low so I will likely be training as a civilian. This being said, I need to figure out what would be best for a "Civilian" with a rather broad mission statement to bring to the event.

So how about it guys?
Link Posted: 9/16/2007 4:35:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2007 4:35:57 PM EDT by MDTS1]
As I told riese in a PM I generally run a class with a LBV & thigh holster. That being said, I have also run classes with mags stuffed in a kangaroo pouch on a hooded sweatshirt and in the cargo pockets of my 511's. It's really up to you. If you are LE and use vests etc., then I say run that in the class. If your a civilian then run clean like you just pulled the carbine out of the closet.... you get the idea. I am not LE but using good gear makes a class (especially a 2-5day class!) a lot more comfortable and allows the student to better focus on course content and instruction instead of constantly dicking with gear. Just MO.
Chris
Link Posted: 9/16/2007 4:46:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/17/2007 4:55:08 AM EDT
I got a whole bunch of 5.11 pants during that may 11th sale. kneepads and all. I was planning on testing them out at the class.

I was gonna wear a blackhawk vest.... heck, I still am.
It's got these huge mag pockets and the shoulder pad comes in handy.
Plus it makes me look more like a "football player 280" than "a guy who works at a desk 280".


I tried shooting with a chest rig down in VA. I couldn't get used to it. It really limitted how I can crook my rifle to reload mags or check the chamber. But I guess we'll learn how to do that the right way now, won't we....
Link Posted: 9/18/2007 6:41:09 PM EDT
I have a Black hawk chest rig and just ordered a dump pouch from Bravo Co. Either 511s and a hooded sweat shirt or a flight suit maybe.

A good pair of gloves are a must also.
Link Posted: 9/19/2007 3:52:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/19/2007 4:08:02 AM EDT
I'll wear my Willie randolph jersey and be a target.
Link Posted: 9/19/2007 10:18:46 AM EDT
I think i'm going in with my AK, some wolf ammo, and regular clothes. Perhaps a pull over sweatshirt with a hand-warmer pocket in front.

Only deciding thing left would be which sidearm. I think my 228 Sig might make the trip. Haven't shot it in awhile but it runs like a caddy.
Link Posted: 9/19/2007 10:21:11 AM EDT
Gloves are always a good idea when running a stock AK. Just my opinion.
Link Posted: 9/22/2007 7:26:19 AM EDT

Damn, it's not even October yet and I think I have all the gear I need. I guess I can always find something else to buy.

USPS MO going out today.
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