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Posted: 11/14/2005 3:06:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/14/2005 3:28:04 PM EDT by Arrowhead]
M16/AR-15 Armorer

Greg "SULLY" Sullivan will be coming to the DFW area to teach this course. You can view more about him and this course via his website: THE DEFENSIVE EDGE

This course covers all M16/AR-15 weapons systems made by all manufacturers.

Armorers will be certified in the proper maintenance, care, and repair of these weapons systems, including semi-auto and select-fire trigger systems.

This program follows the Manufacturer's guidelines and is taught by FBI and NRA Certified Instructors.

The Armorer Course covers:
History of the Weapon
Cycles of Function
General Disassembly / Assembly
Identification of Common Problems and Parts
Nomenclature
Identification of Group Components

Cost for the 2 day M16/AR-15 Armorer is $250. Click HERE to register for this course. (You must register with SULLY via the registration link provided.)

The course dates are FEBRUARY 25 & 26, 2006.

Class hours will be 0800 - 1700 (8am to 5pm) each day.

The location will be at the BACKWOODS TRAPS range. There will be a classroom fee of $15 per person/per day, which will need to be paid at the range. Hotel/Motel information is available via the BACKWOODS TRAPS website.

Hope to see you there.

Be safe and take care,

Leonard
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[Last Edit: 12/26/2005 2:44:12 AM EDT by wganz]
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ETA:> going to send postal money order when I get paid on Friday. This is my other Christmas present to myself.

wganz

Link Posted: 11/27/2005 5:35:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2005 6:47:05 PM EDT by mPisi]
Added to my calendar...

ETA: previous AR15.com reviews:
www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=27
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=13&t=412281
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:18:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 9:22:22 PM EDT by sully]
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 7:34:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/31/2005 4:16:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:
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ETA:> going to send postal money order when I get paid on Friday. This is my other Christmas present to myself.

wganz




Got USPSMO # 07919251053 in the amount of $250 ready to go out for it. My printer is so I had to pdf the application form and emailed to the office to print out there. To hit the mailbox on Tuesday.

wganz

Link Posted: 1/3/2006 10:20:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/13/2006 3:18:21 AM EDT
just FYI Colt is running an M4/M16/635 SMG armorer's course in Austin hosted by Univ. of Texas PD in February. not to poop on anyone's thread.....just a heads up for anyone who wanted to specifically take a Colt Armorer School. i think the training Sgt. told me it was L.E. only, but im not L.E. and i got on the list....so who knows......but im a C3 FFL and i had the blessing of the Colt Instructor teaching the class.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 12:48:00 PM EDT
Sully, in spite of the above person pooping in this thread, I'm planning on attending your armorer's course.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 2:05:28 PM EDT
I don't even own ar A15 but I'd like to go. Too bad I don't have 250$ to spare.

I wonder if he'll do one for AKs.....

Link Posted: 1/13/2006 2:35:29 PM EDT
Sent my registration in, very interested in the class. For my victim I have an old EA lower that needs some work, the buffer dedent pin is a bit bent and doesn't stay in it's hole (so of course I had to locktite it in instead of fixing the problem). And then an upper with mistorqued barrel.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 12:14:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/14/2006 12:15:51 AM EDT by spreadfirearms]

Originally Posted By SF1058:
Sully, in spite of the above person pooping in this thread, I'm planning on attending your armorer's course.



sorry you think im pooping on his thread. i was merely giving people information in regards to other courses in Texas that they may want to take instead.

a class should stand on its own merits. the Colt class costs more money and is primarily only open to LE. that being said, a Colt certification will probably look better in someone's file than one from another brand, or training group.

notice the host of the class didn't say his class was better or worse. if his class is better than Colt's, and his name carries such a reputation, then he has nothing to worry about, since his class would be a better bargain, wouldn't it?
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Link Posted: 1/20/2006 10:52:16 AM EDT
So any one can sign up and go? Don't need to be an armor or gun smith?
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 8:11:27 PM EDT
CORRECT!

You will learn everything you need to know about the M16/AR15.

Sign up soon. It is filling up pretty quick.

Have a great weekend....
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 1:11:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sully:
We supply all the basic tools, manuals, and anything else that is necessary. We will also provide lots of nice to have gunsmith tools that make life easier.




how much, if any, of the books, manuals and/or tools would we take home?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:51:24 AM EDT
I'm in! Mailed my check and application 2 days ago.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 12:12:12 PM EDT
I'm in!
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Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:12:02 AM EDT
If you are coming in from out of town or state... You may want to stay in the Frisco area. There are several restaurants and things to see/do.

Directions from Frisco - just over 15 miles:

1. Starting in FRISCO, TX on N 5TH ST go toward W OAK ST - go 0.1 mi
2. Turn RIGHT on W MAIN ST[FM-720] - go 0.6 mi
3. Turn RIGHT on FM-2934 - go 1.8 mi
4. FM-2934 becomes ELDORADO PKY - go 2.9 mi
5. Turn RIGHT on FM-423 - go 2.9 mi
6. Turn LEFT on US-380 WEST - go 6.3 mi
7. Make a U-turn at FM-424,N NAYLOR RD onto US-380 - go 0.6 mi
8. Arrive at 26828 US HIGHWAY 380 E, AUBREY, on the RIGHT

See you out there...

Leonard
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:30:15 PM EDT
Do we have to pay at registration time? I want to go but won't have the $$ until Feb 15th.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:51:11 PM EDT
falaholic1,

Give Sully a call and talk to him. You might even get him to reply here. He is pretty good at watching what is going on.

The Defensive Edge

See ya,
Leonard
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:53:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:
This is my other Christmas present to myself.
wganz



Called and got everything confirmed today
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:05:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 3:16:27 PM EDT
Sully,

How are we looking for the class? Are there still slots available?

Link Posted: 2/3/2006 8:22:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2006 3:54:14 AM EDT
is this the same class?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=8&t=215626
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 5:56:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:
is this the same class?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=8&t=215626



It sure is...see the same date and place.

Are you in or what ??

This is the class I was telling you about.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:37:01 AM EDT
Guys....

This weekend is the class. Do not forget about the range fee of $15 per day.

I received confirmation from Sully, looks like we have 20 people signed up and ready to go.

We still have room for another 5 or so people. If you or anyone you know is interested, you still have time to give Sully a call and register.

If you are not sure until later in the week, feel free to call me at 817 455 6135 to let me know. You will have to pay in full at the class.

Hopefully we have a better weekend than this past one.

Have any of you given thought on where we are going for DINNER Saturday evening?

Be safe
Leonard
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 12:16:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Arrowhead:

Have any of you given thought on where we are going for DINNER Saturday evening?

Be safe
Leonard



Leonard,
This is going on that Saturday, Big Buck's Brewery between the Embassay Suites and Bass Pro (same large building) neaxt to Grapevine Mills.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=8&t=223914


mm
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 5:57:21 PM EDT
Sounds great to me. We will be there. I posted to add four to the head count.


Plus ----- if you are Jason Marshburn, or you know who he is.... I need him to call me asap at 817 455 6135. It is regarding the Armorer's course.

Thx

Leonard
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 7:44:36 PM EDT
This might sound stupid but what is the $15 a day range fee for ? Will we be "checking our work" (test firing) or possibly some range time setting our zero's? After last weekend I just hope that the Backwoods Range has a nice class room with heat !

Thanks - clueless (A,K,A, Northbilly)
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 7:49:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/20/2006 7:51:31 PM EDT by Arrowhead]
The range charges a $15 per person/per day usage fee for the classroom.

They normally charge $25 per person/per day usage fee for the range and classroom.

Thx
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 2:45:57 AM EDT
Thanks for explaining the Range Fee - I'll leave the Ammo Box at home.

See you'all there - drive safe. Northbilly
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:58:42 AM EDT
I'm in!
Thanks for your help Arrowhead
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 8:08:06 AM EDT
Guys....

I talked w/ Sully this morning. If you are not signed up as of today and are still interested, please call and register w/ Sully. Today will be the last day to do this.

A good note is.... we have opened about 5 more slots. The classroom will be cap'd at 30 people total.

After today, if you or anyone you know are interested... PLEASE CALL ME DIRECTLY at 817 455 6135.

Sully will be headed this way soon.

See all of you out there...

Leonard
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 8:24:59 PM EDT
OK...final list shows 23 signed up.

Remember... starting 2/23/06... call 817 455 6135 to get added to the list.

We can add another 7 people.

Be safe,

Leonard
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:33:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:

Originally Posted By wganz:
This is my other Christmas present to myself.
wganz



Called and got everything confirmed today



Day #1 down.
Absolutely positively great.
We did just the lowers today. Lots of launched springs and retaining pins. Lots of stuff learned.
Really really great. Got my money's worth in just today's class. Sully is a first rate/class instructor.
This course is HIGHLY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

wganz



Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:26:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:
Day #1 down.
Absolutely positively great.
We did just the lowers today. Lots of launched springs and retaining pins. Lots of stuff learned.
Really really great. Got my money's worth in just today's class. Sully is a first rate/class instructor.
This course is HIGHLY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

wganz






+1
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 4:07:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:

Originally Posted By wganz:

Originally Posted By wganz:
This is my other Christmas present to myself.
wganz



Called and got everything confirmed today



Day #1 down.
Absolutely positively great.
We did just the lowers today. Lots of launched springs and retaining pins. Lots of stuff learned.
Really really great. Got my money's worth in just today's class. Sully is a first rate/class instructor.
This course is HIGHLY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

wganz




Just got home. All I can say is WOW! JUST WOW!!

In information overload at the moment so I'll post a more detail critique after I email it to Sullie. First off, I'll never look at the AR15 weapon system again the same. Today, we started off with a quick repeat of tear down and rebuild the lower internal parts. Then the front and rear sights. The A2 rear sight can be almost a big a BEOTACH as the woman that runs that place. Then the front sight base was loosened, and then the fun of taking the barrel off. Wrapped up with a quick run down of ballistics, ammo, tools that you may want, and closing(certificates && caps). This was delayed somewhat by the shouting match the BEOTACH got into with a customer.

A significant % stayed afterwards to help Sully && Paul pack up and clean/rearrange the tables so that the BEOTACH couldn't say anything to them on the way out.

Executive summary: Sully is first rate guy/instructor. This class is HIGHLY HIGHLY recommended for any ARFCommer that has one or more EBR's.

wganz


BTW. Did I mention that the woman that was running the range was a class A #1 BEOTACH that needed an industrial sized Motrin enema?


Link Posted: 2/26/2006 4:17:57 PM EDT
That's weird. I have been going to Backwoods for many years, and she has always been super duper nice. That is too bad.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 4:47:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FALARAK:
That's weird. I have been going to Backwoods for many years, and she has always been super duper nice. That is too bad.



They won't have to worry about me showing back up and bothering her with taking my money.
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