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Posted: 7/1/2017 6:33:15 PM EDT
My wife and I are under contract for the sale of our home here in Vegas and are relocating back to Utah to be closer to family. We're looking at building a house on some property in Summit County out towards Lewis Peak/Wanship and need to get a list of contractors so we can start getting bids. I already have a plumber, siding, and windows guys. Looking primarily for:
Concrete, driveway, footings/foundation work; HVAC/mechanical; Electricians; Roofing; Excavation. We've got a few, but the more we get, the better. Also anyone who's familiar with the process in the county feel free to drop your thoughts here. Thanks! |
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I am a general and have a bit of advice, right now half of my subs will not even bid a homeowner builder, the other half will add 25% for dealing with the scheduling. Pick a good general with good subs.
We are at roughly the same level of permits as 2007 and only at 60% of the labor force, your project is going to take some extra time. DR Horton/Richmond (don't buy those) was building in under 3 months last year and now its closer to 5 (I do custom so I couldn't build that fast). PM me for some references, I will need to know your budget to give you the best options. |
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I am a general and have a bit of advice, right now half of my subs will not even bid a homeowner builder, the other half will add 25% for dealing with the scheduling. Pick a good general with good subs. We are at roughly the same level of permits as 2007 and only at 60% of the labor force, your project is going to take some extra time. DR Horton/Richmond (don't buy those) was building in under 3 months last year and now its closer to 5 (I do custom so I couldn't build that fast). PM me for some references, I will need to know your budget to give you the best options. View Quote |
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Our financing fell through, we don't own a lot yet. Should be August when we do View Quote I have all the people you'd need to get going. |
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I have a good realtor that sells that area if you need help finding one. My load guy is awesome too, he pulls multiple sources for funding and is a local in that area too. I have all the people you'd need to get going. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Our financing fell through, we don't own a lot yet. Should be August when we do I have all the people you'd need to get going. |
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Do you already have plans drawn up? I know a few guys that draw custom homes, and of course I'm around to help if you need engineering. Not sure if those counties require it, Sanpete only requires engineering over 6200' elevation or more than single-story. I did a little bit of work in the midway area and they are insane.
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Do you already have plans drawn up? I know a few guys that draw custom homes, and of course I'm around to help if you need engineering. Not sure if those counties require it, Sanpete only requires engineering over 6200' elevation or more than single-story. I did a little bit of work in the midway area and they are insane. View Quote Yep I finished most of the design of my house in a 3d modeling program last night. Meeting with an architect tomorrow AM. Wasatch and Summit counties definitely have a rulebook that rivals the size of the full US tax code... But it's mostly appearance, fire and flood prevention, and insulation. Our arch works primarily in those two counties and says he can navigate them well. Here's hoping. We don't have any leads for an engineer at the moment though. I'll post back when we get done with our arch in the morning. |
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Anyone ever install a metal roof before? It's a popular look up there over shingles and my wife has really been smitten by it. AFAIK it's cheaper than a shingled roof but neither remember where I heard that from nor have any way to confirm it's accuracy...
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Anyone ever install a metal roof before? It's a popular look up there over shingles and my wife has really been smitten by it. AFAIK it's cheaper than a shingled roof but neither remember where I heard that from nor have any way to confirm it's accuracy... View Quote Who is the architect? I know 2 good engineers. |
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Went and talked to the architect. Using Mitch Lee formerly of Arrive Homes. My wife went to high school with him, he's giving us a friend's and family discount. He's done tons of work up in Oakley, Park City and Heber so is familiar with the code and appearance.
Offer went in on the lot today as well. Fingers crossed |
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hopefully you can find someone who doesn't use illegal labor castle creek who we just bought from used almost all illegal labor none could speak English at all and their skill level was poor at best. we have had to have them back to fix numerous screw-ups. half assed work at best. one house down the road the buyers looked at their home and was like hey the ceilings are not vaulted correctly (trusses were wrong) builder said 4500 to fix it they said FU were not buying that ! we are out ! now they are ripping the entire roof and ceilings out at their expense to fix it right. (No Habla fuckers). If I'd have know this we certainly would have just stayed in our old home. every builder in our area (northern Utah) is using these same groups of illegals fucking sad.
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I know plenty of guys that are legal, pay taxes and don't speak English, but there is plenty of illegals in the labor force too. Castle Creek... yeah, not the best reputation from what I've heard, but I've never had personal experience with them (of course I'm a custom builder so I don't like most people).
The hacks are coming out in full swing, make sure you have an independent inspector look at your project (someone qualified, not on "Home inspection" company) at the major milestones. Also, your project will be delayed, the schedule will not hold. Materials is a major problem right now, we've run out of drywall, Morton and a few other normal things like plumbing parts. It's not your builders fault. |
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Offer was accepted today and we've wired EMD. We close on our sale tomorrow and have to hand over keys this weekend. Financing secured for the lot and sending an appraiser/surveyor/perc as soon as we're able, probably late next week.
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Also, your project will be delayed, the schedule will not hold. Materials is a major problem right now, we've run out of drywall, Morton and a few other normal things like plumbing parts. It's not your builders fault. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Also, your project will be delayed, the schedule will not hold. Materials is a major problem right now, we've run out of drywall, Morton and a few other normal things like plumbing parts. It's not your builders fault. Has there been a supply disruption or just peak building season? Quoted:
hopefully you can find someone who doesn't use illegal labor castle creek who we just bought from used almost all illegal labor none could speak English at all and their skill level was poor at best. we have had to have them back to fix numerous screw-ups. half assed work at best. one house down the road the buyers looked at their home and was like hey the ceilings are not vaulted correctly (trusses were wrong) builder said 4500 to fix it they said FU were not buying that ! we are out ! now they are ripping the entire roof and ceilings out at their expense to fix it right. (No Habla fuckers). If I'd have know this we certainly would have just stayed in our old home. every builder in our area (northern Utah) is using these same groups of illegals fucking sad. |
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Offer was accepted today and we've wired EMD. We close on our sale tomorrow and have to hand over keys this weekend. Financing secured for the lot and sending an appraiser/surveyor/perc as soon as we're able, probably late next week. That's fine with me. I'm not really in any hurry -- the longer it takes the more I can bankroll with cash vs. building loan anyway Has there been a supply disruption or just peak building season? Noted re: Castle Creek, thanks. I'll avoid. View Quote We have fires in Oregon and Canada and a refusal of the suppliers to hold stock. Everyone got hit with millions in inventory in 2008, so its tough. |
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Massive supply disruptions, there is no peak right now its just an ever climbing mountain, both. Its bad, normally we've hit peak lumber prices by now but they are still headed up. We have fires in Oregon and Canada and a refusal of the suppliers to hold stock. Everyone got hit with millions in inventory in 2008, so its tough. View Quote Question about driveway ... We won't be able to build the house itself until spring 2018, just due to timing. In the fall I'd like to cut my driveway and pour concrete. Am I going to have trouble with equipment on a standard pour slab? Should I wait until the rest of the house is done and do driveway last? |
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Makes sense. We're not in any hurry so delays will be taken in stride. Question about driveway ... We won't be able to build the house itself until spring 2018, just due to timing. In the fall I'd like to cut my driveway and pour concrete. Am I going to have trouble with equipment on a standard pour slab? Should I wait until the rest of the house is done and do driveway last? View Quote |
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Driveway will get beat to F. Have them prep the gravel and then do a touchup before the pour. View Quote |
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Would you recommend asphalt over concrete in those conditions? I always had this (admittedly unfounded) belief that asphalt is better for extreme freezing/wet conditions since it's pliable? View Quote Whats best is concrete with a good sealer and don't use ice melt. Ice melt is the reason the top layer starts to pit and chip and flake, good sealer will help, but you are still going to have the problem. DO NOT SPRAY THE SEALER ON THE TOP. It doesn't look as clean to roll it on, but if you spray it beads up and you wasted time and money, complete coverage is not achieved. JBP sells an awesome sealer, that's probably where your concrete will come from any way. Don't pour concrete on top of frost or frozen ground and your good. With concrete the trucks will crack the shiz out of it. Drop 4" of gravel and wait. You'll regret it if you don't, regardless of weather its concrete or asphalt. |
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hey @lcpl1812, how late into the season are y'all building right now?
Our survery, perc test and appraisal should all be done this week and with any luck we'll move through closing and have the property by early September. I'd love to get a foundation, roof, and exterior walls on it so I can work on finishing it through the winter months. |
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Year round. You will hit some snow removal and winter building costs, but work doesn't stop, it just takes longer.
Edit: Excivation Soils report Footings, foundation, undergound, damp proofing etc Backfill Interior Flatwork Framing 4 way items That's you first few months depending on the size of the home. Several other things in that the frame but those are the big ones. Right now that's 2-5 months of work, assuming you have the guys and depending on the home size. I doubt you'll get a hole dug before mid-late October honestly, but make sure everything up to backfill is set in stone or your going to be paying dearly for frost removal. Get your gas line going as soon as you dig, or you'll be sorry. |
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Year round. You will hit some snow removal and winter building costs, but work doesn't stop, it just takes longer. Edit: Excivation Soils report Footings, foundation, undergound, damp proofing etc Backfill Interior Flatwork Framing 4 way items That's you first few months depending on the size of the home. Several other things in that the frame but those are the big ones. Right now that's 2-5 months of work, assuming you have the guys and depending on the home size. I doubt you'll get a hole dug before mid-late October honestly, but make sure everything up to backfill is set in stone or your going to be paying dearly for frost removal. Get your gas line going as soon as you dig, or you'll be sorry. View Quote |
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Questions for those who have had surveys done before. Is it normal to do a topo map? We paid this surveyor, he went out and did a boundary survey, and is saying we owe him another $1000 if we want a topo. I am completely unaware what the standard fare is; is $2k normal for a topo + boundary survey?
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Then you can pretty much do whatever you want. View Quote |
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You gonna get the drywall and wood before the cost from the Harvey rebuild makes prices go up?
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So what, do I go to the building supply place and clean out their osb and gypsum board stock ?
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Anyone have experience with companies that work with rough timbers? I had about 60 dried timbers "convey" into my ownership on this property, that were originally for a cabin. I want to use these, as my house design incorporates a ton of rough hewn timber; I just need them planed square, and then I can use them for steps or beam work.
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