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Posted: 12/20/2012 2:49:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2012 2:57:01 PM EDT by Action45]
Issuing a blanket statement on why I'll never spend another dime at Shooters Jacksonville.

First off, the last time I was in that POS store (Shooters) about a month ago the customer service was garbage. Weird huh? I mean the fact that their service blows isn't exactly an original post topic. Anyways, I wanted to buy a Fobus paddle holster for my Glock 29 for an upcoming hog hunt. Didn't need any help or ask for any assistance, just wanted to buy the damn holster and leave. It was about 6:30 and they were too busy closing up to cash me out. There was a guy buying a gun at one register, and the other 5 employees were too busy vacuuming and doing other bullshit closing tasks to cash me out. Waited around for 10 mins like an asshole, then finally left in disgust. Every time I've been to Gun Gallery, the staff has gone out of their way to ask if I needed help with anything. Service is consistently impeccable...no exceptions.

Fast forward to the current pre-assault weapons ban hysteria. Unless you've been living under a rock for the past week you know I'm talking about. On Monday, I visited Gun Gallery and purchased 8 P-Mags, all at the original price. On Tuesday, I decided that I wanted to go ahead and buy a DSA FAL I've been eyeballing. The price tag was $1,560...same as it was a month ago. I tried to negotiate the price down to $1,500 even, but the salesman politely explained that there would be no reductions given the current political climate. Understandable and fair, I conceded am payed full price.

Gun Gallery also had several Stag and CMMG complete lowers they were selling on Tuesday at $329.99. Again, very reasonable, and still the original price they were charging before all this mess unfolded. I considered buying one, but decided against it. I returned this evening because I thought it might be a good idea to go ahead and buy an extra lower, unfortunately they were all sold out. So I placed a quick call to Shooters just to see if they still had any lowers in stock still, which they do. What's the price you ask? Drumroll please.....over $1,000.00 is what the guy on the phone told me! I'm all for capitalism and free market economics, but you've got to be fucking kidding me!!!

So congratulations Shooters, you've lost my business forever. Kudos to the good folks at Gun Galley for their outstanding service, and also for handling this situation with class.
Link Posted: 12/20/2012 3:03:25 PM EDT
Just make sure you remember who is doing what during this BS time...
Link Posted: 12/20/2012 6:23:23 PM EDT
Thank you for the kind words.
Link Posted: 12/20/2012 7:33:58 PM EDT
Friend told me shooters was asking 550 for stripped lowers. This situation has certainly exposed some businesses for what they are. Gun Gallery has always been fair to me. In fact, I picked up a gun I ordered there today.
Link Posted: 12/20/2012 10:41:50 PM EDT
I know these guys (gun gallery) are being worked to death this week, but they still manage to be ultra helpful. And NO price gouging.
I respect them for that, and that's why they get my business and I always send prospective customers their way.

Thumbs up for the GG crew. Cheers-Jon
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 12:27:01 AM EDT
Shooters is their own worst enemy.
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 12:46:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ATACORION:
Shooters is their own worst enemy.


They lost a customer here but I doubt they care, their recent actions show that.
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 1:07:04 AM EDT
Isn't price gouging illegal?
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 4:35:54 AM EDT
It's 8:35 and..........
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 4:39:56 AM EDT
It's 1810 where I am at and.........
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 4:54:16 AM EDT
Shooters burned my a$$ several years ago when I wanted to order a airline gun case that they were a dealer for. They did not have the one I wanted in stock when I called so I asked if I could order it over the phone & pay wigth my CC. They said NO & that I had to come into the store to ordered the case
I told tthe guy on the phone thanks but I'm not driving from St Augustine to to Shooters just to pay for the case & then turn around & drive back when it came in. I called Wild West Guns & placed the order in a couple minutes & have been happy witth the case ever since.
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 9:40:19 AM EDT
Shooters CS sucks

GG CS is very good.

nuff said
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 1:07:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AR18:
Shooters CS sucks

GG CS is very good.

nuff said


+10
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 2:02:45 PM EDT
I stopped by Shooters for the hell of it to entertain myself today since I was in the area. Was in the back checking things out with a friend and asked about the SR25 they had prior to the madnes but, the employee said it sold for $8k. My friend made the comment to me saying "thats crazy". The employee said, and I quote, "We only raised the prices to discourage the panic buying but, I guess its not working"

My buddy wanted to check out the prices on .308 ammo and suprisingly, its still the regular price. We asked why and they said only the 5.56 stuff increased cause of demand. Its funny that all the items with tags had the section with the price cut off but, the ammo with the orange sticker (the one you apply with a sticker gun) on the shelf behind the counter is the only stuff that price hasnt changed on. Seems like they didnt feel like peeling them off and re-pricing it.
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 7:25:32 PM EDT
They need to change the name to Looters. Cause that's what they are doing. I'll never darken their door again.
Link Posted: 12/22/2012 4:41:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ATACORION:
Isn't price gouging illegal?


Nope, We are still a capitolistic economy. The O great failure is trying to turn it into a Socialistic system.

Like PT Barum said: "There is a sucker born every mintue,"

GG staff is friendly to deal with.

Shooters staff will blow you off. Been there once and it will stay that why.
Link Posted: 12/22/2012 6:00:22 AM EDT
swung by "Looters" yesterday just to see the show,poor people are circled around the center display waiting for one guy to ring them up,I just circled them shaking my head and giggling.Its really sad that people will not just wait but prefer to Panic
Link Posted: 12/22/2012 1:10:50 PM EDT
I am not from JAX, just visiting and everyone keeps telling me to go to Shooters because they got everything! They sure do for high price! I compared my dealer back in GA with them. They were $150 difference. No wonder why they have a "price match" policy that they don't take up. HAHAHAHHA People are piling in and are buying them high priced guns! HAHAHHA
Link Posted: 12/22/2012 3:59:00 PM EDT
My dad swung in there today. They wanted $2000 for a DPMS Oracle. Buds had the same gun listed before the panic for $629 with free shipping.

That's just nuts.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 3:37:11 AM EDT
I hope everyone who is or was a shooters fanboy is learning a lesson about business ethics.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 5:12:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ATACORION:
I hope everyone who is or was a shooters fanboy is learning a lesson about business ethics.


Simple to the point: They suck hard! People are going to remember.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 5:34:00 AM EDT
The GG Staff is top notch. They make that store what it is. Best gun shop anywhere.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 3:13:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ATACORION:
I hope everyone who is or was a shooters fanboy is learning a lesson about business ethics.


Not a fanboy, but I was a customer. Until this past week that is.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 3:29:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:45:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 4:45:37 AM EDT by zaskar017]
Originally Posted By ATACORION:
I hope everyone who is or was a shooters fanboy is learning a lesson about business ethics.


people rarely remember anything and/or are just talk

Look at the Great Spikes price increase of 2008, the day after the election. A whole lotta WTF, Spikes sucks, I will never buy from them again, Remember this day, rabble rabble rabble at the time.
Fast forward a couple years; Spikes is awesome and the FLHTF does a group buy for some FL lowers


FWIW
I did not buy a lower, nor will I purchase Spike's goods no matter how tempting the price
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 6:20:02 AM EDT
This might explain some of the turmoil going on right now. This was copied from The Truth About guns.com

We’ve already seen some blatant, public-facing price increases on things like Magpul magazines. The “Now We Sell Firearms Now We Don’t Now We Do” folks at CheaperThanDirt raised their prices from around $15 to $60 per magazine. According to our industry sources, considering the simple law of supply and demand, firearms and magazine prices will remain sky high for the foreseeable future. Distributors for brands such as Glock, Ruger, S&W and Magpul have begun eliminating ALL dealer discounts. They’ve also begun rationing entire brands of firearms and accessories, in some cases raising prices as much as 60 percent . . .

Dealers don’t pay market prices. If they did there would be no profit for them and no reason to stay in business. Dealer pricing has historically been done based on the quantity of firearms a gun store buys. And depending on how well a retailer moves product, the distributors will cut them a better rate.

According to one source in the industry, at least one distributor is completely removing that process from their pricing of firearms and accessories. From the email that the distributor’s customers received on Wednesday:

We have removed all pricing discounts from items in select categories. This will allow for all high-demand products to hit the marketplace at the same price.

Which is doublespeak for “screw you, we’re charging what the market will bear no matter how much you sell.” Higher prices for dealers means higher prices for consumers, with items like Colt firearms seeing the market price going up as much as 60 percent due to the removal of dealer pricing. And that’s before they tack on any additional pricing element.

What makes it even harder for gun stores to get firearms and magazines in stock: in some cases, entire brands of firearms have been “allocated.” Translation: they’re being rationed out to the various gun dealers. This used to be done only with extremely high-demand firearms, but it now appears to be happening to entire brands. According to my source:

Set the time machine to a week ago. Allocated item – S&W Shield. Allocated item – Ruger SR1911. Allocated item – 10/22 Takedown. Allocated item – Springfield TRP.

This week? Allocated brand – Glock. Allocated brand – Magpul. Allocated brand – S&W.

This means that gun stores can’t re-stock. And since they can’t re-stock, the prices for existing items in inventory go sky-high. The reason for the rationing isn’t necessarily that distributors are looking to hike the prices. It’s more likely they’re simply out of stock. Period.

Firearm makers in this country have been going 24/7 to keep up with demand ahead of Obama’s re-election. Rifles that might be banned under a renewed AWB were already in short supply following a massive buying spree that happened around election day. Those rifles had only just started re-appearing in distributors’ stocks when the shooting in Connecticut took place.

Now, after Dianne Feinstein outlined her bill, the entire supply chain is barren. The usual cushion of rifles that adorn distributor’s warehouses are gone and they’re shipping guns out as soon as they come in the door. Thanks to the potential of a new Assault Weapons Ban, manufacturers are going to be very hesitant to increase their production capabilities to meet demand for products that may be made illegal in the short to medium term.

That’s bad news for consumers looking to buy a new gun in the coming month or two. The shortages won’t end anytime soon. Current events will only push prices up higher as whatever is left in the pipeline dries up. It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. And the only thing that will improve the situation is when all of the looming threats to the gun industry are resolved. One way or another.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 2:30:39 PM EDT
Here's how I see it.

The Gun Gallery's mission is to: 1) make profit, 2) serve the shooting needs of their local community, 3) foster customer relations to establish a loyal customer base, 4) sell good products at fair prices, 5) Provide exceptional customer support.

Shooters being a chain, has a much simpler philosophy: maximize investor's profits.

The Gun Gallery works harder, plays harder and represents what I'm looking for in a gun shop. They have a much more complex business model to maintain, which costs more to deliver. The dedicated crew at the Gun Gallery make this comprehensive effort look easy, while the folks at Shooters always appear stressed. The Gun Gallery is my preferred LGS, even though they're not my closest; but in the end, I'd rather pay a few extra bucks for everyday items being sold by a local group of professionals, as opposed to being taken advantage of by an out-of-state group of investors.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 3:36:53 PM EDT
While I agree shooters sucks I thought they were owned locally by some guy that owns a pawn shop.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 3:58:10 PM EDT
Yeah they are locally owned as far as I know. In fact, I met one of the owners in there one day I think. Not sure if it was or not, but it was definitely a manager who refused to transfer my Benelli to me and he was a real horse's ass scumbag.

Not a chain I don't think
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 6:17:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RRice:I thought they were owned locally by some guy that owns a pawn shop.

You could very well be right my friend; as I may have inaccurately associated them with the Shooters chain in TX. Truth is, I don't know for certain if they're affiliated; but they sure don't project a sense of an LGS that places priorities on fostering good customer relations within the local,community. By contrast, I've seen Neil from the Gun Gallery go out of his way to assist out--of-state customer's transfers. Rob has gone out of way to diagnose weapon's failures regardless of where they were purchased from. Indeed, there are many more examples of exemplary support from the Gun Gallery. Of course, those of us that frequent the Gun Gallery already know how superb those folks are, just wish the other LGS's would follow suit.

Link Posted: 12/27/2012 2:46:49 AM EDT
No disagreement here on how great the gun gallery is. Those guys have helped me out too many times to count and I consider many of them friends.

I only brought the issue with shooters up because I remembered when they first opened a local guy named Eddie owned it. I was just curious if he had sold it to someone from out of town.
Link Posted: 12/27/2012 3:16:19 AM EDT
From what i've heard. Eddie still owns it. I also heard that he is family with Wild West on Lane ave and Beach Gun & Pawn. Maybe others. Someone told me they were Palistinian.
Link Posted: 12/27/2012 4:04:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bco175:
They need to change the name to Looters. Cause that's what they are doing. I'll never darken their door again.


Racist.........
Link Posted: 12/27/2012 4:06:10 AM EDT
Gun Gallery......I do not like going to gun shops but when I do I go to Gun Gallery.....Neil and everyone there are awesome.......other gun shops need to take notes from them on how to treat people ethically without bending them over the counter.
Link Posted: 12/27/2012 9:19:06 PM EDT
U think the guys at shooters r tools try bullseye

GPI, gun gallery or jims dog house for me.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 1:49:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rightwingnut:
U think the guys at shooters r tools try bullseye


Omfg +1
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:44:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Action45:
Issuing a blanket statement on why I'll never spend another dime at Shooters Jacksonville.

First off, the last time I was in that POS store (Shooters) about a month ago the customer service was garbage. Weird huh? I mean the fact that their service blows isn't exactly an original post topic. Anyways, I wanted to buy a Fobus paddle holster for my Glock 29 for an upcoming hog hunt. Didn't need any help or ask for any assistance, just wanted to buy the damn holster and leave. It was about 6:30 and they were too busy closing up to cash me out. There was a guy buying a gun at one register, and the other 5 employees were too busy vacuuming and doing other bullshit closing tasks to cash me out. Waited around for 10 mins like an asshole, then finally left in disgust. Every time I've been to Gun Gallery, the staff has gone out of their way to ask if I needed help with anything. Service is consistently impeccable...no exceptions.

Fast forward to the current pre-assault weapons ban hysteria. Unless you've been living under a rock for the past week you know I'm talking about. On Monday, I visited Gun Gallery and purchased 8 P-Mags, all at the original price. On Tuesday, I decided that I wanted to go ahead and buy a DSA FAL I've been eyeballing. The price tag was $1,560...same as it was a month ago. I tried to negotiate the price down to $1,500 even, but the salesman politely explained that there would be no reductions given the current political climate. Understandable and fair, I conceded am payed full price.

Gun Gallery also had several Stag and CMMG complete lowers they were selling on Tuesday at $329.99. Again, very reasonable, and still the original price they were charging before all this mess unfolded. I considered buying one, but decided against it. I returned this evening because I thought it might be a good idea to go ahead and buy an extra lower, unfortunately they were all sold out. So I placed a quick call to Shooters just to see if they still had any lowers in stock still, which they do. What's the price you ask? Drumroll please.....over $1,000.00 is what the guy on the phone told me! I'm all for capitalism and free market economics, but you've got to be fucking kidding me!!!

So congratulations Shooters, you've lost my business forever. Kudos to the good folks at Gun Galley for their outstanding service, and also for handling this situation with class.


+1 Saw the same thing when I stopped by last weekend after shopping at Costco. It was $900 for a stripped lower and $1/rnd for 5.56 NATO. WTF?!? My son and I made a quick about face and went to GG.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 9:04:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 9:12:29 AM EDT by suprapvb]
Originally Posted By AR18:
Shooters CS sucks

GG CS is very good.

nuff said


Exactly,

i won't forget when the douche at Shooters told me they wanted 2k for the KSG because of how hard they are to find.....this was a few months back obviously. (they were selling on gunbroker for 1200-1300)

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 11:07:42 AM EDT
With all the money made at Shooters you would think they would be giving bonuses or raises in salary.....nope,guys don't even get a employee discount or ability to get deals for them selves,that's just what I have heard....pretty lame.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 11:15:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 11:20:06 AM EDT by elementsdesign90]
Did not see anyone share this posting from Chris Costa, which has a posting from Neil at GG: (If so, I apologize for reposting)


Great Job to the staff over at the Gun Gallery in Jax. Now is the time we need to be unified, If we stick together we can prevail....

sincerely,
costa


Dear everyone,

As many of you have seen and others have posted, we have not raised the prices on our inventory. We are selling items at, or (when possible) below MSRP. This, coupled with the fact that there are others in town who have decided not to do this has left our inventory looking pretty skimpy as of late. New inventory comes in regularly, however, it is selling as fast as it comes in. Especially, and specifically AR15 rifles, uppers, magazines, ammo, etc.

We are very happy to have excellent working and even friendly relationships with some of the very best manufacturers in this field. We have large orders in with companies like, Noveske Rifleworks, Knights Armament, Daniel Defense, Bravo Company Manufacturing, Magpul, Advanced Armament and more.

We have always been pleased to carry some of the most dignified brands in this market, being either the only location to stock these items, and/or the company to bring these names to our city. Please be patient with us in this time. Though it may not seem like it when your phone call doesn't get answered, or, it takes longer than usual to answer your email, or, you wait for an employee to help you in the store, we are all working hard to make sure we can help in whichever we we can.

Thank you for your business, your patience, and your loyalty. Guns are not just a way to make a dollar for any of our employees. They are our passion and a way of life.

-Neil

This is why I only purchase from Gun Gallery...
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 1:06:07 PM EDT
^^ Awesome...and that's why they have loyal customers
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 9:19:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 9:20:52 PM EDT by JaketheSnake]
Originally Posted By CREPR:
Here's how I see it.

The Gun Gallery's mission is to: 1) make profit, 2) serve the shooting needs of their local community, 3) foster customer relations to establish a loyal customer base, 4) sell good products at fair prices, 5) Provide exceptional customer support.

Shooters being a chain, has a much simpler philosophy: maximize investor's profits.

The Gun Gallery works harder, plays harder and represents what I'm looking for in a gun shop. They have a much more complex business model to maintain, which costs more to deliver. The dedicated crew at the Gun Gallery make this comprehensive effort look easy, while the folks at Shooters always appear stressed. The Gun Gallery is my preferred LGS, even though they're not my closest; but in the end, I'd rather pay a few extra bucks for everyday items being sold by a local group of professionals, as opposed to being taken advantage of by an out-of-state group of investors.


Since when is Shooters is a chain store?

Not to de-rail, I do believe Gun Gallery is a better place to do business with but I've always thought Shooters was a one off gun store.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 7:33:12 AM EDT
Shooters is one off locally owned.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 12:13:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 3:32:37 PM EDT
Neil that was a post that was from another gun blog about the current state of affairs. I have seen the same thing where items are allocated or just out if stock. But personally I find it hard to believe that a mfr that's worried that the items they either have in inv or are working around the clock to produce and hope don't become banned will not go up in price somewhat. It's just a case of supply and demand at this point. The demand is there just not the supply and that why we are seeing all this drama. If a ban doesn't come to fruition then look at all those individuals that spent all that money for items they will never get their money back out of it.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 6:42:00 PM EDT
This is why I'll be making the drive to the Gun Gallery next Friday. I don't need anything but I plan to give them some business anyway.
Link Posted: 12/30/2012 4:42:25 AM EDT
The rest of the year their prices are among the lowest. Today's common price shoppers don't have any loyalty but the best price.

I really don't care at this point.

I have had all my stuff since the 90's
Link Posted: 12/30/2012 6:01:16 AM EDT
You've had Pmags since the 90's?
Link Posted: 12/30/2012 10:14:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ATACORION:
You've had Pmags since the 90's?


No, to be specific I've had Colt and Center mags since the 90's.

There were mags available before the Pmag, guy.
Link Posted: 12/30/2012 3:23:34 PM EDT
Im not your guy pal.
Link Posted: 12/31/2012 2:10:21 AM EDT
I've done a lot of business over the years with Shooters. (A lof in terms of my buget, not big money in the grand scheme of business though)

But I was shocked at how much they raised prices on items. Doubling the price of PMags is one thing, but taking stripped lowers from $120 to $599 in a matter of days is insane. Especially when you can drive two miles down the road and get stripped lowers for $129, albeit not "spikes", but who cares about a roll mark at that price difference?

Shooters customer service has always been lacking in the sense of comparing to smaller establishments, but I've always over looked that because its expected when you carry in bulk and generally the cheapest price in town. I've purchased one firearm from Gun Gallery, and they were great, just dont have the selection.

And while I'm all for capitalism, its not a supply and demand issue when you've got 25 stripped lowers on your counter marked up 400+% just sitting there because no one is even considering paying that price.

Just wanted to vent my dissappointment with Shooters. I dont wish anything bad on them, I just dont understand their decision on pricing and the impression they set for repeat customers.
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