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Posted: 3/15/2011 12:42:51 PM EST
Draw a line between Fisher's Island and Plum Island, what is it? It has structures on it.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 12:58:14 PM EST
Shutter Island.


Seriously, I don't know. Probably part of Plumb Island's facilities but just not labeled on a map.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:13:17 PM EST
Great Gull Island according to my chart. Looks like an old gun emplacment on the north end and most likely a Nav aid in the center of the island.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:14:34 PM EST
Google map it, or row boat out to it. Also bring a lantern if its foggy, add to the mood.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:19:07 PM EST
Great Gull Island, and little Gull island. The smaller one has a lighthouse.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:19:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ronski:
Great Gull Island according to my chart. Looks like an old gun emplacment on the north end and most likely a Nav aid in the center of the island.

That's it thanks. The name isn't listed on google maps or mapquest.



Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:23:25 PM EST
Plumb Island is for sale right now... if I had the cash I might bid on it....then it could be like my own personal island doctor moreau
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:24:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:28:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By zulthor:
Plumb Island is for sale right now... if I had the cash I might bid on it....then it could be like my own personal island doctor moreau
Link?

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:50:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 1:52:04 PM EST by DaveM4P99]
That island looks awesome for exploring. Check it out on google map satellite images. And that 1914 map...very cool. Old ordnance shacks barracks gun turrets general stores a hospital cisterns ...can we go?

But really...is it legal to explore or is it private?
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:55:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:
That island looks awesome for exploring. Check it out on google map satellite images. And that 1914 map...very cool. Old ordnance shacks barracks gun turrets general stores a hospital cisterns ...can we go?

But really...is it legal to explore or is it private?
It seems to be owned by American Museum of Natural History. From the little reading I have done it's occupied by staff in the Spring and Summer.

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:04:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By zulthor:
Plumb Island is for sale right now... if I had the cash I might bid on it....then it could be like my own personal island doctor moreau


With the copious application of napalm and concrete it might be safe to live there.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:14:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By Danj:

Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:
That island looks awesome for exploring. Check it out on google map satellite images. And that 1914 map...very cool. Old ordnance shacks barracks gun turrets general stores a hospital cisterns ...can we go?

But really...is it legal to explore or is it private?
It seems to be owned by American Museum of Natural History. From the little reading I have done it's occupied by staff in the Spring and Summer.



Its not spring yet. Arfcom field trip/mass illegal tresspassing.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:58:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 3:10:18 PM EST by DaveM4P99]
They charged the American taxpayers $224,000 in 2007 to verify there were no more munitions at the site? I could have done that for a tenth of the price...or for free.

http://www.nan.usace.army.mil/project/newyork/factsh/pdf/ftmichie.pdf
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 4:56:36 PM EST
https://rc.gsa.gov/ResourceCenter/PRHomePage/loadProperty.do?propId=14024
I'd offer $1000 for it, perhaps in a government boondoggle I could win
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 5:18:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By zulthor:
https://rc.gsa.gov/ResourceCenter/PRHomePage/loadProperty.do?propId=14024
I'd offer $1000 for it, perhaps in a government boondoggle I could win

It seems like a bitch of a facility to secure. I know they would never release it but I'd love to see what they have guarding that site. My neighbor works there as a nurse, she won't talk.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 6:44:15 PM EST
Plum island has a rule you must be able to live there for 48 hour with out leaving if shtf
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 6:46:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
Originally Posted By Danj:

Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:
That island looks awesome for exploring. Check it out on google map satellite images. And that 1914 map...very cool. Old ordnance shacks barracks gun turrets general stores a hospital cisterns ...can we go?

But really...is it legal to explore or is it private?
It seems to be owned by American Museum of Natural History. From the little reading I have done it's occupied by staff in the Spring and Summer.



Its not spring yet. Arfcom field trip/mass illegal tresspassing.


Scuba tanks are filled, they would never see us coming... I mean if we decided to go.

224,000 to remove ammo... What do I need for that job?
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 7:54:11 PM EST
so down for a field trip
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 9:02:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 9:11:31 PM EST by Danj]
Let's rent a boat, land on the island, and play dumb. Worse comes to worse they politely tell us to leave.

Or we could make fake AT&T IDs, grab some hardhats, clipboards, and pretend we are there to fix something.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:09:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By Danj:
Or we could make fake AT&T IDs, grab some hardhats, clipboards, and pretend we are there to fix something.


Don't laugh, we did that (not AT&T though) and drove right into a peacekeeping base in a foreign country- no ID check, just a smile and wave! Got a lot of strange looks, it was clear they were wondering if we were supposed to be freely wandering thier base....but, of course, nobody bothered to do any follow-up on thier (correct) suspicions!
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 10:43:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 11:49:53 AM EST by Danj]
I hear UPS uniforms work really well too.

Anyone check out camp hero in montauk?

ETA: The east end seems to have some very interesting military history. I was surprised to learn that during the cold war the Westhampton AF base had nuclear weapons.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 12:02:54 PM EST
Subversive Anarchists Invade Island

Newsday April 22, 2011
By Jaye Brown


Ten members of the NY branch of anarchist terrorist organization were arrested after they were found to be trespassing. Sources close to the investigation state they were found on an environmentally sensitive former Military Installation. The group was in possession of scuba gear, small boats and other high tech GPS navigation devices which have been linked to other terrorist plots. Officials don’t know the exact purpose of the group, but state the investigation is ongoing at this time. The group all bore clothing and items with a strange starburst pattern similar to a pinion gear. The Government asks that anyone with information please contact the lead investigators at NSA at Ft. Meade Maryland at 201-222-7587.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:15:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By scpd92:
Subversive Anarchists Invade Island

Newsday April 22, 2011
By Jaye Brown


Ten members of the NY branch of anarchist terrorist organization were arrested after they were found to be trespassing. Sources close to the investigation state they were found on an environmentally sensitive former Military Installation. The group was in possession of scuba gear, small boats and other high tech GPS navigation devices which have been linked to other terrorist plots. Officials don’t know the exact purpose of the group, but state the investigation is ongoing at this time. The group all bore clothing and items with a strange starburst pattern similar to a pinion gear. The Government asks that anyone with information please contact the lead investigators at NSA at Ft. Meade Maryland at 201-222-7587.


Green peace shirts it is
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:45:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By Danj:
I hear UPS uniforms work really well too.

Anyone check out camp hero in montauk?

ETA: The east end seems to have some very interesting military history. I was surprised to learn that during the cold war the Westhampton AF base had nuclear weapons.


I inspected parts of Camp Hero. Radar tower and some housing structures. Pretty cool bunkers and artillery placements. All abandoned.
Damn MONSTEROUS deer too.......
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:59:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ronski:

Green peace shirts it is
I'll rock an Obama shirt for the cause.

Link Posted: 3/17/2011 8:36:05 AM EST
Haha...I forgot that Plum Island was referenced in "Silence of the Lambs."

"mentions "Plum Island" as a potential supervised vacation site for Hannibal Lecter as a reward for helping to catch Jame Gumb. He derisively refers to it as "Anthrax Island."

I'm sure all kinds of weird stuff goes on there...
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 10:13:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2011 10:21:54 AM EST by Danj]
Why not do a booze cruise to Gull Island? Bring some BBQs and see if scientists on the island want to party.

Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:
I'm sure all kinds of weird stuff goes on there...
I've always wondered if it isn't exactly what dep agriculture says it is, a place to combat livestock viruses. Just judging from the amount of DHS FPS vehicles always parked at the mainland complex and the ones always parked at the local motel down the road it seems like Plum Island has a decent security force. But there isn't a no fly container surrounding the place so I guess there isn't anything that important on the island.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 2:31:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2011 2:31:36 PM EST by Zoomer302]
I've worked on Plum too. Not nearly as secretive as most people think. Biologic quarantines suck though -
especially if you hunt on dairy farms like I do.... They play with some pretty funky things there. Mostly
hoof and mouth disease (which is not a human pathogen). When they play with the really nasty stuff (like
Narobi sheep anthrax) they dont let non-essential personnel into biocontainment. Really nasty stuff is
typically defined as human pathogens
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 2:56:03 PM EST
I don't get why people are bitching about the lab. It's only BL3 and there are BL4 labs all over the world located right in the middle of some major cities.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 2:58:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Danj:
Let's rent a boat, land on the island, and play dumb. Worse comes to worse they politely tell us to leave.

Or we could make fake AT&T IDs, grab some hardhats, clipboards, and pretend we are there to fix something.


When I worked doing telecom installs I was always amazed the sensitive places people would let us into just because we had boxes of wire and a tool belt. By sensitive I mean areas in hospitals ( like the pharmacy).
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